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Chinston Wurchill posted:I've been working my way through Peter David's X-Factor after enjoying his recent work on Maestro and New Fantastic Four, and it's just great. I've seen some of these panels posted before and I know there's a well-liked bit coming up with Quicksilver at the therapist, but it's been consistently solid and amusing from issue #1. The "genetically challenged" stuff hasn't aged well, but otherwise I'm very much enjoying it. You're probably all over it too, but he was writing Incredible Hulk at that time too, which was pretty good from memory. Hence that particular cross over. Peter David is like Al Ewing, in that I know I'm probably going to like it if he wrote it. Or rather Al Ewing is like Peter David?
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I'm curious, what's the story with the random Kermit cameo?
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Larryb posted:I'm curious, what's the story with the random Kermit cameo? He's being puppeted by the other Madrox. Not sure why there's a Kermit puppet in what was supposed to be an aviation museum, but there you go. Elissimpark posted:You're probably all over it too, but he was writing Incredible Hulk at that time too, which was pretty good from memory. Hence that particular cross over. I actually ended up coming across X-Factor first. Might go with his Hulk for my next retro read though!
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Chinston Wurchill posted:He's being puppeted by the other Madrox. Not sure why there's a Kermit puppet in what was supposed to be an aviation museum, but there you go. The panel just says the Smithsonian, which could be any one of like 8 or so museums, most of which are pretty close together. There is a Jim Henson exhibit in the American History Museum, so presumably he's in there and not the Air and Space Museum.
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Larryb posted:I'm curious, what's the story with the random Kermit cameo?
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Aug 17, 2022 06:12
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Spidey Super Stories always forget that Peter is a scientist on par with Tony Stark.
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Aug 17, 2022 06:19
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Kwyndig posted:Spidey Super Stories always forget that Peter is a scientist on par with Tony Stark. Marvel Adventures Avengers, otoh TwoPair posted:I found it! It's #11
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Aug 17, 2022 06:53
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What a good thing that the president of that election was chosen for his immense intellect and reasonable politics, then. But yeah, Peter would mess it up anyway.
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Aug 17, 2022 06:55
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cant cook creole bream posted:What a good thing that the president of that election was chosen for his immense intellect and reasonable politics, then. I reiterate, the President after this was published was Ronald Reagan.
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Aug 17, 2022 09:27
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So Super Spidey Stories Spider-Man is responsible for neoliberalism and the fall-out of the Reagan administration, especially the increased distrust of government that seems to flavour conservatism these days. Maybe JJJ was right, just for the wrong reasons.
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evilmiera posted:I reiterate, the President after this was published was Ronald Reagan. I am aware. The greatest and most smartbrained president until Trump's second election! He has aged into the role by 2024 and surpass our national hero!
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Aug 17, 2022 10:32
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Elissimpark posted:So Super Spidey Stories Spider-Man is responsible for neoliberalism and the fall-out of the Reagan administration, especially the increased distrust of government that seems to flavour conservatism these days. Unless ol' Webhead was instrumental in founding the John Birch Society, he's in the clear.
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Aug 17, 2022 12:00
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Senior Woodchuck posted:Unless ol' Webhead was instrumental in founding the John Birch Society, he's in the clear. Have we ever seen Spider-Man and Robert Welch Jr together? I don't think so.
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Aug 17, 2022 13:52
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Pretty sure nobody writes Peter to be over 35 so he can't be President anyway.
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He is also an immigrant, coming here as the last son of a planet that no longer exists.
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Darthemed posted:
Sorry for being a bit off-topic, but can anyone recommend a free font that emulates that vertical (as opposed to the slight slant you see in most handwriting) old school comics lettering? I'm working on some LP art and it would work really well for the liner notes.
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evilmiera posted:I reiterate, the President after this was published was Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan the actor?
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Kwyndig posted:Spidey Super Stories always forget that Peter is a scientist on par with Tony Stark. Not after Ka-Brick!!!
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Sorry for being a bit off-topic, but can anyone recommend a free font that emulates that vertical (as opposed to the slight slant you see in most handwriting) old school comics lettering? I'm working on some LP art and it would work really well for the liner notes. https://webonastick.com/fonts/routed-gothic/ might be what you want.
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muscles like this! posted:Pretty sure nobody writes Peter to be over 35 so he can't be President anyway. Where is the long form irradiated Spider, Spider-Man? For all we know you were born on the moon as an Inhuman.
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Spider-Man: Life Story is a great miniseries if you want to read a story where Spider-Man isn't permanently under 35.
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It's kinda hilarious that it took Bendis to say "we should put our most popular characters on the Avengers" forty years after Spider-Man #1 for Marvel to do it when Batman and Superman were on the Justice League before Spider-Man even existed.
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Skwirl posted:It's kinda hilarious that it took Bendis to say "we should put our most popular characters on the Avengers" forty years after Spider-Man #1 for Marvel to do it when Batman and Superman were on the Justice League before Spider-Man even existed. It'd be one thing if no one ever thought of it but it's funnier that there are several stories where there was a chance for Spider-Man to join and something goes wrong. Marvel deliberately kept him off the team.
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Lobok posted:It'd be one thing if no one ever thought of it but it's funnier that there are several stories where there was a chance for Spider-Man to join and something goes wrong. Marvel deliberately kept him off the team. Yeah it showed a certain level of brand integrity-- Spidery is a chronic loner/loser despite being kickass and the Avengers are kind-of snobby despite being a halfway house for anyone Cap, Tony, or Thor found on the street. Bendis thread the needle with adding Wolverine/Spider-Man because the characters are frankly too strong to gently caress up if you're even moderately good, but I remember feeling like Marvel was "giving in" to something and going a bit obvious-- kind of similar to vibes when they tried to make Superman and Wonder Woman a power couple and my mind kept going back to the Alan Moore store "too obvious?"
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Definitely wasn't just you. That was the big topic of the day when it happened, if Bendis was betraying the spirit of Spider-Man and/or ruining what the Avengers were. Funny to think how much the loner Spidey rep clashed with his team-up history. For a supposedly solo hero, the dude met everybody.
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Spider-man is very popular, it's not coincidence that Sony bought the motion picture rights to him specifically. Marvel Team Ups are usually Spider-man meets another less famous hero to shore up their numbers. That raises my curiosity, has Wolverine ever duoud with Spidey?
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I remember people complaining that New Avengers team wasn't strong enough to be Avengers. These are Earth's Mightiest after all! The team that accepted Hawkeye and Tigra.
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Kwyndig posted:Spider-man is very popular, it's not coincidence that Sony bought the motion picture rights to him specifically. Marvel Team Ups are usually Spider-man meets another less famous hero to shore up their numbers. That raises my curiosity, has Wolverine ever duoud with Spidey? sure, a bunch of times. the first was probably that graphic novel where they both went to berlin while the wall was up and got into espionage shenanigans. the best was probably the mini where they traveled through time together and at one point bedazzled their costumes with magic diamonds.
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Kwyndig posted:Spider-man is very popular, it's not coincidence that Sony bought the motion picture rights to him specifically. Marvel Team Ups are usually Spider-man meets another less famous hero to shore up their numbers. That raises my curiosity, has Wolverine ever duoud with Spidey? Woverine was in the New Fantastic Four with Spider-Man, Hulk, and Ghost Rider
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Solving just as many problems as the original fantastic four while only causing half as many. Usually.
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Taerkar posted:Solving just as many problems as the original fantastic four while only causing half as many. Well yes, because these characters have moral codes, unlike Reed Richards.
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Push El Burrito posted:I remember people complaining that New Avengers team wasn't strong enough to be Avengers. These are Earth's Mightiest after all! The actual power level of The Avengers has wildly changed over the years. But the main thing is Marvel doesn't really have a focus on super heroes as powerful as Superman, those heroes exist (Sentry, Blue Marvel, Hyperion, probably some others I'm forgetting), but no one gives a poo poo about them. Marvel doesn't have a Superman that people care about, they've got a lot of Batmen. Iron Man, Spider-Man and Wolverine have all pulled off Batman levels of bullshit "I was prepared for this or I can adapt quickly enough to it I might as well have been prepared" things. Daredevil is basically Red Batman. You have Iron-Man, Spider-Man and Wolverine on the same team, why the gently caress didn't you do this earlier?
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thetoughestbean posted:Woverine was in the New Fantastic Four with Spider-Man, Hulk, and Ghost Rider That seems like a team that's only coming out for some niche adventures. "Argh, a supernatural being with immense physical strength and it's army of science ninjas are attacking us!" "Huh, where are you?" "In New York!" "Well, you're in luck..."
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Elissimpark posted:That seems like a team that's only coming out for some niche adventures. Johnny Storm's girlfriend (who was actually a Skrull) recruited them.
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Elissimpark posted:That seems like a team that's only coming out for some niche adventures. It was primarily a joke about the implausibility of the four most popular Marvel characters of the time teaming up like that
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Skwirl posted:The actual power level of The Avengers has wildly changed over the years. But the main thing is Marvel doesn't really have a focus on super heroes as powerful as Superman, those heroes exist (Sentry, Blue Marvel, Hyperion, probably some others I'm forgetting), but no one gives a poo poo about them. iron man wasn't nearly as popular before the movies. him being on the avengers wasn't much of a selling point.
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