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do i preload grindr before i go to get poxshot or not
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lol great new page snipe
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mediaphage posted:do i preload grindr before i go to get poxshot or not get the shot first then wait a few days
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I’m sure this doesn’t even need to be said but trying to associate monkey pox solely with “men who have sex with men” drives me loving insane because, among other reasons, if you’re acknowledging that bisexual men can get it, then obviously it can be spread to women too, JUST LIKE loving AIDS YOU MORONS. Bisexual men can be described as "men who have sex with men"
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Aug 16, 2022 20:56
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It's popular for youth pastor types to tell teenagers that if you have sex with someone you're having sex with everyone they've ever had sex with so if you view it like that I've had sex with all of my Eskimo Brothers which means I'm basically an MSM.
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Aug 16, 2022 20:59
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Thoguh posted:It's popular for youth pastor types to tell teenagers that if you have sex with someone you're having sex with everyone they've ever had sex with so if you view it like that I've had sex with all of my Eskimo Brothers which means I'm basically an MSM. This also means that everyone has had sex with Kevin Bacon
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Aug 16, 2022 21:01
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Karl Barks posted:Bisexual men can be described as "men who have sex with men" i think the women who gently caress them would object to this
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Aug 16, 2022 21:03
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:i think the women who gently caress them would object to this women can be pretty open minded if you talk to them
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Aug 16, 2022 21:07
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In the medical setting, it's not about whether you're gay, bi, or straight. It's about who you have sex with. Some people will identify as straight but still admit to having sex with people of the same sex. So instead, it's documented as "has sex with men" or "has sex with women" or "has sex with both". Phrasing the question that way yields more truthful / accurate answers as well.
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Aug 16, 2022 21:12
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that's cool. hey why do they think gay dudes are the only ones spreading it again
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Aug 16, 2022 21:14
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:that's cool. hey why do they think gay dudes are the only ones spreading it again because the data shows that men who have sex with men are spreading it way the gently caress more than anyone else? that would be my first guess i mean yea if you ask some dumbass nurse with a 2 year degree, you're going to get a dumbass answer
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Aug 16, 2022 21:17
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Latest stats I could find were from jul 22 and it was 99% of cases were in men: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/08/monkeypox-cases-reach-7500-us-99-cases-males
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Aug 16, 2022 21:18
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Karl Barks posted:Latest stats I could find were from jul 22 and it was 99% of cases were in men: https://starbucks.cashstar.com/recipient-experience/redemption/pfgSNeN9P5N0n2diqVIlLQzC7/8fb3ed915e1b4ce18c1700d9cf5353f7/?continue=true
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Aug 16, 2022 21:20
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A Buttery Pastry posted:starbucks confirmed the most trusted source of medical news in america drat it lol Please don't steal my $10 gift card 
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Aug 16, 2022 21:21
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thats the tax for pedantry on the internet
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Aug 16, 2022 21:22
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because i thought one of the concerns were outbreaks in schools schools that apparently i should've assumed were catholic
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Karl Barks posted:drat it lol Karl Barks posted:Latest stats I could find were from jul 22 and it was 99% of cases were in men: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/08/monkeypox-cases-reach-7500-us-99-cases-males
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:because the data shows that men who have sex with men are spreading it way the gently caress more than anyone else? that would be my first guess yeah but that's been a heavily selected for sample, to the point that we're hearing anecdotes of people being refused treatment and even testing despite obvious symptoms if they're not engaging in MSM the same way covid didn't infect children when we refused to test children for it. We could just as easily decide monkeypox was a disease of the lefthanded by organizing our testing around that trait.
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Coolness Averted posted:yeah but that's been a heavily selected for sample, to the point that we're hearing anecdotes of people being refused treatment and even testing despite obvious symptoms if they're not engaging in MSM Where are you seeing heavily selected sample sizing for monkeypox stats? Legit curious
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Karl Barks posted:Where are you seeing heavily selected sample sizing for monkeypox stats? Legit curious The testing criteria makes it such that it's almost impossible to get a test if you aren't a promiscuous gay man so of course the population of people that test positive are going to be overwhelmingly gay men.
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Thoguh posted:The testing criteria makes it such that it's almost impossible to get a test if you aren't a promiscuous gay man so of course the population of people that test positive are going to be overwhelmingly gay men. Not saying you're lying or anything, I'd just like to see where that's happening cause I'm curious. I agree that 99% of cases being men sounds fishy
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Aug 16, 2022 21:55
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Karl Barks posted:Not saying you're lying or anything, I'd just like to see where that's happening cause I'm curious. I agree that 99% of cases being men sounds fishy Medical bias is frustratingly slippery, I think we're probably years away from having real data about it here. All we have now are anecdotes about people being turned away from testing and stuff like the CDC guidelines for determining a case I posted. On first blush those guidelines seem reasonable, they say all at risk communities, but they have a baked in bias. Like if patient 0 stays at a hotel and their sheets get laundered, infecting 100 people and 3 of those were gay, but 97 aren't the CDC has just found 3 cases of monkeypox 100% of which were gay. The other 97? Didn't meet the CDC's criteria for a likely case, since none of them had close contact with a confirmed case or person presenting symptoms, nor had they engaged in MSM. Overly simplified numbers and going with a massive outbreak for emphasis, but you get my point.
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lmao I have enough faith in the medical community that there are controls and wide population samples to compare everything against. They certainly don't "only test gay people." That simply isn't how studies and medical science work.
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oh for sure man https://twitter.com/hankgreen/statu...ingawful.com%2F it's going to do nothing to stop inflation but sure ok https://twitter.com/Freddygray31/st...ethingawful.com  https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein...ingawful.com%2F 👍
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:lmao I have enough faith in the medical community I see.
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tuskeGee, I sure do love trusting the medical community
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ex post facho posted:just mired in her own poo poo, never wiping, for the rest of her miserable life I mean, if you're mired in it I don't imagine wiping would help much.
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projecthalaxy posted:tuskeGee, I sure do love trusting the medical community
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ex post facho posted:oh for sure man I really appreciate that you went with a discreet theme of colors for that post Green, Gray and backs the Blue
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A Buttery Pastry posted:
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projecthalaxy posted:tuskeGee, ...is a subject that is brought up in detail in every single first-year ethics class in every medical school in the country. Bringing up abhorrent examples of systemic racism during a time when we imprisoned every single American with "Japanese blood" in camps doesn't give you the justification to disregard public health data & decision-making. Pretty much everything was tainted by racism in the 1930s 40s.
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:Pretty much everything was tainted by racism in the 1930s 40s. It's better now right
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Dukberry posted:It's better now right it's been a long time since society completely poo poo the bed responding to a pandemic too! It's not like anyone who has overseen multiple failed pandemic responses is at the levers of power anymore. Hell, I can't even remember a pandemic that was let to ravage a population we didn't care about until it eventually came knocking for more important people
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:...is a subject that is brought up in detail in every single first-year ethics class in every medical school in the country. unfortunately that’s not just a problem for the 40s, it’s a problem now https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.1516047113 quote:Specifically, this work reveals that a substantial number of white laypeople and medical students and residents hold false beliefs about biological differences between blacks and whites and demonstrates that these beliefs predict racial bias in pain perception and treatment recommendation accuracy. It also provides the first evidence that racial bias in pain perception is associated with racial bias in pain treatment recommendations. Taken together, this work provides evidence that false beliefs about biological differences between blacks and whites continue to shape the way we perceive and treat black people—they are associated with racial disparities in pain assessment and treatment recommendations. Obviously this must be news to you, otherwise your hand waving would be a sign of lack of concern rather than ignorance about the topic of bias in public health decision-making. So maybe don’t be so quick to dismiss concerns about “public health decision-making” being biased in ways that it historically has been biased.
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lol hospitals are far and away best at saving white men from heart attacks because for decades and decades that was the only kind of person they studied, you're still on the back foot if you have the bad fortune to have a coronary while being black or a woman they didn't even start asking all those white guys if they smoked cigarettes until like 1970 lmao also go ahead and guess what demographic is best at receiving organ transplants in our society H.P. Hovercraft has issued a correction as of 02:53 on Aug 17, 2022 |
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I see the Homophobes have found CSPAM to spread their bullshit about the Gay pox.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:they didn't even start asking all those white guys if they smoked cigarettes until like 1970 lmao until like 1970 I think you would be considered a smoker by modern standards by walking into any building
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In Indiana, where they aren't gatekeeping tests to MSM, 20% of known monkeypox cases are in women. This implies that sexually active MSM are a very high risk category, but the virus is also spreading through the general population. Massage therapists, restaurant workers and schoolchildren are also at high risk of getting poxxed, but good luck getting a vaccine if you're in one of those groups.
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Given (chicken)pox parties are a thing, I kind of imagine there's gonna be an explosion among children at some point.
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