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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:I remember reading that most trees in most places require a significant amount of care (including lots of regular watering) until their roots grow deep enough to become self-sustaining. i read that native trees are no longer native in many places anymore because their saplings cant grow in the changed climate. the adults are all fine but getting established is too hard. boomer vs millenial but for trees
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Aug 18, 2022 16:02
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Samuel Glompers posted:Things seem bad, and yet
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Aug 18, 2022 16:02
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:I remember reading that most trees in most places require a significant amount of care (including lots of regular watering) until their roots grow deep enough to become self-sustaining. Yeah this is the problem any professional I've spoken with has had with NYC's million trees program. Just planting a bunch of young trees wherever in an urban environment is not in itself a beneficial or even carbon-neutral activity because trees only really pay themselves off and provide ecological benefits as they approach maturity. Planting them is the easy part, keeping them alive in an urban hellscape is where it gets tricky.
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Aug 18, 2022 16:13
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Decades posted:Yeah this is the problem any professional I've spoken with has had with NYC's million trees program. Just planting a bunch of young trees wherever in an urban environment is not in itself a beneficial or even carbon-neutral activity because trees only really pay themselves off and provide ecological benefits as they approach maturity. Planting them is the easy part, keeping them alive in an urban hellscape is where it gets tricky. the more recent trend in nyc is just filling a hole where a tree was with weeds, which magically absorbs water, and fixes flooding forever
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Aug 18, 2022 16:18
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Cup Runneth Over posted:people care way too much about atmospheric CO2 ppm re: human health. it regularly goes up to 2000ppm in poorly ventilated indoor spaces, as any COVID thread regular can tell you. nobody ever notices. climbing a few dozen ppm is probably not going to result in any noticeable health effects let alone all of humanity asphyxiating to death. the consequences to humanity will be indirect imho the air pollution that causes the brain damage is not co2 but instead pm2.5 - https://www.the-scientist.com/features/air-pollution-may-damage-peoples-brains-66473 luckily we will not be able to measure the impact because there is no control group when 93% of children are exposed to enough of it to cause cognitive damage - https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/29/health/air-pollution-children-health-who-india-intl/index.html quote:now I am aware this is probably not what you meant but I've been looking for an excuse to post about it 
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Aug 18, 2022 16:20
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Aug 18, 2022 16:22
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thankfully there are no ongoing events that radically change climatic conditions for wildlife habitat around the world at speeds unprecedented in the geological timescale (even the permian extinction) good luck, trees
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Aug 18, 2022 16:22
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it'll happen by 2030
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Aug 18, 2022 16:23
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Generally speaking air conditioners (unless you're in some sort of cleverly engineered passivehaus or have a massively oversized system) can really only push a temp delta of 20-30 degrees, so enjoy sitting in your 90 degree house running the ac full blast. When its humid here it struggles to maintain 74 degrees on a 90-ish day. Gotta put up a foot thick of insulation in your closet and turn it into a fridge for humans
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Aug 18, 2022 16:26
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:it'll happen by 2030 wife, angrily: it'll happen today! brought to you by sears
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Aug 18, 2022 16:26
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everyone is misreporting heat index as actual temperature. it'll actually be like 110F with crazy humidity
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Aug 18, 2022 17:08
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Isn't that already what we're getting I would expect by 2050 it's going to be much worse
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Aug 18, 2022 17:16
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so much worse
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Aug 18, 2022 17:20
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Justin Tyme posted:Generally speaking air conditioners (unless you're in some sort of cleverly engineered passivehaus or have a massively oversized system) can really only push a temp delta of 20-30 degrees, so enjoy sitting in your 90 degree house running the ac full blast. When its humid here it struggles to maintain 74 degrees on a 90-ish day. we must have a massively oversized system because i can get my house to the Nice temperature and actually have the loving thing cycle when it's a hundred degrees outside it's really nice, actually, been one of the easiest aggressively terrible summers I ever remember having here
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Aug 18, 2022 17:27
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Mirthless posted:we must have a massively oversized system because i can get my house to the Nice temperature and actually have the loving thing cycle when it's a hundred degrees outside you probably just have good insulation and not a magic ac that breaks physics. if your system really was too strong you would be short cycling, ie cooling so fast the cycle ends before the air can mix so the humid air never gets dehumidified and you end up with dank house
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Aug 18, 2022 17:36
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Real hurthling! posted:magic ac that breaks physics You just saved humanity
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Aug 18, 2022 17:38
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Real hurthling! posted:you probably just have good insulation and not a magic ac that breaks physics. if your system really was too strong you would be short cycling, ie cooling so fast the cycle ends before the air can mix so the humid air never gets dehumidified and you end up with dank house buddy some people pay a lot of money for a dank house
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Aug 18, 2022 17:43
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Aug 18, 2022 17:54
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I should be sadder that the Norwegian fish cops shot a young walrus because people were too stupid to stay clear of her and she was sinking boats but there are so many lols in the situation. In the early 1980s when Thatcher/Reaganite austerity was becoming all the rage a zoo in New Zealand (?) shot their hippo because their funding had been cut to the point they couldn't afford to continue feeding it. Shooting the Hippo ended up as a book title but was much too early to become a meme. Between this and the Brits shooting a white stag we need more memes. At least enough funds have been raised for a statue so we can remember her properly. 10 or 15 years ago a young male orca left his pod and started interacting with people in a west coast Vancouver Island inlet. Very charismatic but that didn't end well either. He was rubbing up against small boats in the docks and sinking them, also keeping fishing crews awake at night with his rubbing. To be clear, orcas are large dolphins and have similar horny habits, only large. By "rubbing" the media meant "masturbating". Unfortunately he tried to interact with a tug and got sucked into its Kort nozzle, a shroud around the propeller that turns it into a meat grinder from mere whirling blades of death. Very sad. Probably a lot of metaphors there.
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Aug 18, 2022 17:55
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Luna 
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Aug 18, 2022 18:18
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:I remember reading that most trees in most places require a significant amount of care (including lots of regular watering) until their roots grow deep enough to become self-sustaining. Yep. Planting a seedling and calling it a day isn't really going to work. Even very established trees often require a significant amount of care to protect them from invasive species and stop them from becoming hazards, especially if you live in an urban or suburban environment.
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Aug 18, 2022 20:17
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 Loire River, France.   Rhine River, Germany, August 2021 vs August 2022. OhFunny has issued a correction as of 22:50 on Aug 18, 2022 |
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Aug 18, 2022 22:47
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OhFunny posted:
lol that's so hosed
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Aug 18, 2022 22:48
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OhFunny posted:
Beautiful. This shows how efficient we are at using water and not wasting it by letting it drain away. More of this will be necessary if we want to limit shortages caused by climate change and made worse by immature, unrealistic environmental policies.
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Aug 18, 2022 22:51
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for the rhine one the size of the river is the most obvious thing, but it's great that you can also look at parks or any other green space and they're half dirt this year
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Aug 18, 2022 22:51
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:for the rhine one the size of the river is the most obvious thing, but it's great that you can also look at parks or any other green space and they're half dirt this year and yet the private lawns are green? proof that all public spaces contribute are examples of "tragedy of the commons"
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Aug 18, 2022 22:53
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 https://twitter.com/thelabandfield/status/1543896662761947136 https://twitter.com/thelabandfield/status/1543896666599833600 https://twitter.com/thelabandfield/status/1543896670362128384
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Aug 18, 2022 23:05
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lmao if we don’t change plastics production will produce more ghg in 2050 than all those created by transportation and commercial (exempting industrial) / residential power use put together do as of a couple years ago
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Aug 18, 2022 23:07
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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/18/peter-thiel-refused-consent-for-sprawling-lodge-in-new-zealand-local-council Latest news about Peter Thiels planned bunker.
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Aug 18, 2022 23:16
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mediaphage posted:lmao if we don’t change plastics production will produce more ghg in 2050 than all those created by transportation and commercial (exempting industrial) / residential power use put together do as of a couple years ago i mean plastics bad, but lol at comparing BAU plastics in 2050 to 2019 emissions in other sectors rather than BAU 2050 emissions for those sectors. obviously because plastics relate emissions would still be dwarfed by transportation, electricity, land use change, etc under a 2050 BAU model
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Aug 18, 2022 23:17
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bedpan posted:Beautiful. This shows how efficient we are at using water and not wasting it by letting it drain away. More of this will be necessary if we want to limit shortages caused by climate change and made worse by immature, unrealistic environmental policies.  we just need to make sure we rake the riverbeds, so they don't catch fire
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Aug 18, 2022 23:25
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That reminds me, someone thought it was a good idea to dredge the Rio Grande. https://www.kxan.com/border-report/zapata-county-getting-2m-to-dredge-rio-grande-as-drought-drags-on/ Like it's going to magically solve their drought woes.
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Aug 18, 2022 23:30
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2050 BAU is incomprehensible to me, we'll be drowning in our trash like the backstory to WALL-E at that point
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Aug 18, 2022 23:39
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Speaking of plastics. Was this posted here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FxfXVuHRjM A couple years ago I went to Egilsay island and the beaches were like that one.
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Aug 18, 2022 23:53
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Trabisnikof posted:i mean plastics bad, but lol at comparing BAU plastics in 2050 to 2019 emissions in other sectors rather than BAU 2050 emissions for those sectors. obviously because plastics relate emissions would still be dwarfed by transportation, electricity, land use change, etc under a 2050 BAU model sure, I think their point is just guys plastics bad and not just microplastics which this thread knows obviously but
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Aug 18, 2022 23:56
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Trabisnikof posted:i mean plastics bad, but lol at comparing BAU plastics in 2050 to 2019 emissions in other sectors rather than BAU 2050 emissions for those sectors. obviously because plastics relate emissions would still be dwarfed by transportation, electricity, land use change, etc under a 2050 BAU model At this point, I feel like 2030 BAU is too hard to predict. 2050 might as well be trying to predict the 4th president of the mega-squid civilization.
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Aug 19, 2022 00:03
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Is this new PFAS cleaning solution actually legit or just more wishing as usual?
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Aug 19, 2022 00:08
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the article i read about it had a quote from the people who did the research saying that is was unfeasible on a large scale
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Aug 19, 2022 00:44
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probably can’t do poo poo to filter PFAS out in a way that benefits wild animals, livestock etc. (and those who eat them) either.
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Aug 19, 2022 00:48
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:I remember reading that most trees in most places require a significant amount of care (including lots of regular watering) until their roots grow deep enough to become self-sustaining. tree version of this 
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