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Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

The Leck posted:

OK which of you people put in an offer for the P36 on reverb last night? I know you're here, show yourself!

Not me, I've being to ascertain what year this Ibanez not-EB-3 is from:

https://www.cashconverters.com.au/shop/music-tv-video/musical-instruments/guitars-string-instruments/electric-guitar/016900176038

Though some idiot seems to have moved the jack to the front and ditched the little string cover from between the pickups.

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TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat
I had a p36 for years very nice guitar

DangerousSmells
Jan 3, 2021
I always wanted a Parker Fly as a kid. Out of my price range then and out of my price range now. Anyone making anything even remotely the same ballpark nowadays? I would love to see someone bring that brand back.

luchadornado
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!

We could band together and form a luthier co-op that resurrects the Parker Fly. What could possibly go wrong with a goon initiative?

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

luchadornado posted:

We could band together and form a luthier co-op that resurrects the Parker Fly. What could possibly go wrong with a goon initiative?

the first run of Turdo watches has been a resounding success

stoopidmunkey
May 21, 2005

yep

DangerousSmells posted:

I always wanted a Parker Fly as a kid. Out of my price range then and out of my price range now. Anyone making anything even remotely the same ballpark nowadays? I would love to see someone bring that brand back.

Check out the group axes4music on fb. That take orders that go through a Chinese “replica” factory. They do whatever you want. I got them to make an lp with a Tele headstock for under $300 and it’s very, very nice. It’s the same factory that makes the stuff at badcatinstruments.com which is my favorite “budget” brand. Much better than the fireflies I’ve bought. Little better than my agile but much less expensive. I still need to post pics and review the monstrosity I had them make but haven’t had time.

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune
You know what, whole half diminished scales kind of slay.

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino

800peepee51doodoo posted:

You know what, whole half diminished scales kind of slay.

Yeah for sure-diminished stuff is so handy for transitions and key changes and stuff too.

Also, that username is a Dr Octagon reference, right?
I love picking out samples on doctoroctagonecologist that I've heard elsewhere, there's definitely at least one on a Rob/White Zombie record

Major Operation
Jan 1, 2006

stoopidmunkey posted:

Check out the group axes4music on fb. That take orders that go through a Chinese “replica” factory. They do whatever you want. I got them to make an lp with a Tele headstock for under $300 and it’s very, very nice. It’s the same factory that makes the stuff at badcatinstruments.com which is my favorite “budget” brand. Much better than the fireflies I’ve bought. Little better than my agile but much less expensive. I still need to post pics and review the monstrosity I had them make but haven’t had time.

I hadn't heard of Bad Cat Instruments until yesterday when I saw two videos about their "P4M Olympic White Metallica James Hetfield Custom X-Explorer". Obviously not endorsed by Hetfield in any way, but the EMG branded pickups seem to be terrible fakes also. There are other problems as well, but I think once you confirm it's too good to be true you can reset your expectations to be more realistic.

Videos are from 60 Cycle Hum:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhUw26pvoT0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OurXFWFidq4

The extremely bootleg Explorer is now sold out on the Bad Cat website, but that's not to say you couldn't get essentially the same thing from that group on Facebook. Just be careful you aren't GASing too hard about bootleg stuff.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
It's not a het style explorer but I really really recommend the Jericho Nomad. Mine is unbelievably good and has a longer scale which is not for everyone but I think just rules hard.

https://jerichoguitars.com/product/nomad-supernova/

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
It's so 70s! and 25.75 scale!!

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

NonzeroCircle posted:

Yeah for sure-diminished stuff is so handy for transitions and key changes and stuff too.

Also, that username is a Dr Octagon reference, right?
I love picking out samples on doctoroctagonecologist that I've heard elsewhere, there's definitely at least one on a Rob/White Zombie record

I've been messing around with the diminished scale for adding shreddy bits when playing in minor/harmonic minor/phrygian and it works really well there. The intervals make it easy to play fast and it has a nice dark feel without being too exotic. Im starting to get why its widely used in modern metal. I still don't have a good sense how/when to use diminished chords though. Gotta work on that.

And yeah, my username is from that bit on Octagonocologist. I used to be a real big Kool Keith fan. Dude rules but I wish he wasn't a crazy weirdo that canceled every show I bought tickets for

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
One thing I really struggle with conceptually is 22 fret guitars.
All mine are 24 fret and the idea of not having that full 2 octaves makes me a little anxious.
It's not like I spend all the time up there on the fretboard but still.
Scale lengths aren't as big a deal for me as they can be for some as I play(ed) a lot of bass for ages so I can adapt to different neck lengths pretty fast thankfully, but not having 24 frets weirds me out.

I'd like to like Gibsons, but I find them too physically heavy to be comfortable. My hypothetical dream bass for ages was a Thunderbird but within 2 minutes of actually picking one up I realised they aren't for me. Same with SGs. And Telecasters (but not cos they are too heavy).

Edit; I love Kool Keith because he's so weird and follows his own path, but I can imagine it's frustrating as gently caress trying to see him live.

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

muike posted:

It's not a het style explorer but I really really recommend the Jericho Nomad. Mine is unbelievably good and has a longer scale which is not for everyone but I think just rules hard.

https://jerichoguitars.com/product/nomad-supernova/

That looks p nice. Also its the dude from Car Bomb's signature model which is certainly something

I've been half seriously considering ordering a custom build from Dunable. I've never played a Dunable guitar but they look extremely sick. Im sure that looking extremely sick is really all that matters in a guitar right?

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer

NonzeroCircle posted:

One thing I really struggle with conceptually is 22 fret guitars.
All mine are 24 fret and the idea of not having that full 2 octaves makes me a little anxious.
It's not like I spend all the time up there on the fretboard but still.
Scale lengths aren't as big a deal for me as they can be for some as I play(ed) a lot of bass for ages so I can adapt to different neck lengths pretty fast thankfully, but not having 24 frets weirds me out.

I'd like to like Gibsons, but I find them too physically heavy to be comfortable. My hypothetical dream bass for ages was a Thunderbird but within 2 minutes of actually picking one up I realised they aren't for me. Same with SGs. And Telecasters (but not cos they are too heavy).

Edit; I love Kool Keith because he's so weird and follows his own path, but I can imagine it's frustrating as gently caress trying to see him live.

no problem, you can get an octave by bending the note up a whole step at the 22th fret :twisted:

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer
if anybody is looking for a little tenor telecaster like the one i bought and posted about in the old thread, the maker has this one up for sale on reverb for right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9w7ALZO_7A

EDIT: on mine, i've changed the tuning from CGDA (all 5ths) to CFAD, so its like the top 4 strings of a normal guitar (if it was tuned town a whole step) and it's probably my favorite electric guitar for fingerstyle right now, because it's way easier to mute 4 strings instead of 6!

Helianthus Annuus fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Aug 18, 2022

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

800peepee51doodoo posted:

I've been half seriously considering ordering a custom build from Dunable. I've never played a Dunable guitar but they look extremely sick. Im sure that looking extremely sick is really all that matters in a guitar right?

I dunno, let's ask Jeff Matz of High On Fire:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y1XHuLCtBQ

(The answer is yes. I don't particularly like High On Fire, but this is what I imagine I'd look like if I had a sick Dunable bass. Less beard and hair, though. Probably more gut.)

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino

Helianthus Annuus posted:

no problem, you can get an octave by bending the note up a whole step at the 22th fret :twisted:

OK fair point, and my bends are pretty shoddy so I could work on them.

But I have 24 frets and a whammy pedal

One weird trick

Local pets hate him




For reals though, I have had a couple 22 fret instruments and they just aren't for me.
I'm a slave to Ibanez Wizard necks and I have come to accept this.
Jacksons (or redneck Ibanez as my mate calls them) are also OK

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

I don't fret too much about frets. You can tap past the top fret fine and bend to notes if you need to. I have one 21 fret, few 22 and a few 24 fret, the 22s don't feel limiting to me and the 21 is my oldest guitar I learned to play on so we get by. But your preferences aren't wrong if you prefer those higher ones present.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
I don't even know how many frets any of my guitars have I don't really go past 15 often

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン

800peepee51doodoo posted:

That looks p nice. Also its the dude from Car Bomb's signature model which is certainly something

I've been half seriously considering ordering a custom build from Dunable. I've never played a Dunable guitar but they look extremely sick. Im sure that looking extremely sick is really all that matters in a guitar right?

i'm constantly like one financial windfall away from asking dunable to make me a guitar lol. If you're looking for something specific and their vibe is what you're into... it's probably worth it.

When I saw Cave In I kept looking to see if Brodsky used his from Mutoid Man and 2MTLN

Elissimpark posted:

I dunno, let's ask Jeff Matz of High On Fire:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y1XHuLCtBQ

(The answer is yes. I don't particularly like High On Fire, but this is what I imagine I'd look like if I had a sick Dunable bass. Less beard and hair, though. Probably more gut.)

Dunable makes their basses 35" by default which makes them cool af

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer

NonzeroCircle posted:

OK fair point, and my bends are pretty shoddy so I could work on them.

i was just kidding -- it's really hard to bend a whole step at the 22nd fret!

easiest is right in the middle at the 12th fret, so thats a good place to start if you want to improve your technique

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

muike posted:

i'm constantly like one financial windfall away from asking dunable to make me a guitar lol. If you're looking for something specific and their vibe is what you're into... it's probably worth it.

When I saw Cave In I kept looking to see if Brodsky used his from Mutoid Man and 2MTLN

Ha, I just got an email from my work yesterday saying our utilization bonus will be issued this week which is what got me thinking about ordering a custom build. Depending on how much it is I might just put down a deposit.

Re: Mutoid Man, that guy recently had his Green amp and a cab up for sale on craigslist, maybe 6 months ago. Wish I could have justified it, looked like a sweet rig.

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

Forgive the repeat since I just posted this in the post-pics thread but look at this big fuckin' neck

(2007 Agile Ghost III and 2022 Agile Septor 827 side by side)



8 strings are cool. I might end up with a 7 string next, as it turns out extended range is fun!

Agreed fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Aug 18, 2022

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer
Tain't natural

Clarence
May 3, 2012

Can anyone advise on tuning a Floyd Rose? (II I think, if it makes a difference. It's on a 94 Ibanez)

My usual way is to loosen the locking nut and tune until close (but see below), lock the nut again and use the micro adjusters on the trem itself to make things exact.

Except it's a nightmare as adjusting each string changes the tuning of the others ever so slightly. I can eventually get it in tune with itself but that inevitably won't match standard tuning so playing to a backing track sounds off.

It's such a pain that I'm starting to think I'm doing something fundamentally wrong.

Thumposaurus
Jul 24, 2007

Are you stretching your strings?

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

Dr. Faustus posted:

Tain't natural

Well the old one is, but I thought a pleasant blue flamed finish would be nice for the guitbass :q:

widefault
Mar 16, 2009

Dr. Faustus posted:

Tain't natural

What about an ash-bodied Les Paul with a maple neck?

widefault fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Aug 19, 2022

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
Make sure your bridge is level, use sellotape to make a stack of coins that you wedge in the cavity to hold the bridge in place.
Try to get all your fine tuners in the middle of their range of travel before tuning using the machine heads, then once you've got it in tune lock down the nut and remove the block.
You may need to adjust the claw a little with a screwdriver to pull it back to level- use little turns and keep testing your tuning.
It's probable that the claw may end up a little askew as one end may need to be screwed in a tad more than the other depending on number/tension of springs (mine are like this).

I find it helpful to tune inwards, ie tune the low E, then the high e, then the A, then B, D and G
This is also the order in which I change strings, one at a time which has the added bonus of mostly keeping the tension the same and the bridge has less excuses to play silly buggers.

Also you will need to stretch the gently caress out of all your strings, particularly the G.
I do this before any fine tuning.
With the nut unlocked I fret the string as hard as I can (often with 2 fingers) at the first fret with my left hand.
With my right hand I grab the string around the twelfth fret and pull it away from the fret board as far as it will go a few times, wiggle it around and will do this a couple of places along the string often around the 7th fret and up around the 20th. After a good stretch, check the tuning.
If you've done it properly it will be flat, possibly by a whole step!
This is fine :)
Retune the string, repeat the stretchy process and keep doing this until it stays in tune and doesn't do noticeably flat.

The whole process is easier if you stick to the same tuning, and same guage (and even brand) of strings as you won't have to do anywhere near as much tweaking of the claw as the bridge should stay level.

I only use the fine tuners for minor adjustments, it's mostly about the balance between strings and springs.
The more you do it, the easier and faster it gets. Takes me about 20-30 mins now if I'm not changing tunings or guage.
Hope this helps!

NonzeroCircle fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Aug 18, 2022

lazerwolf
Dec 22, 2009

Orange and Black

widefault posted:

What about an ash-bodied Les Paul with a maple neck?


This is cool and good

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice

Clarence posted:

Can anyone advise on tuning a Floyd Rose? (II I think, if it makes a difference. It's on a 94 Ibanez)

My usual way is to loosen the locking nut and tune until close (but see below), lock the nut again and use the micro adjusters on the trem itself to make things exact.

Except it's a nightmare as adjusting each string changes the tuning of the others ever so slightly. I can eventually get it in tune with itself but that inevitably won't match standard tuning so playing to a backing track sounds off.

It's such a pain that I'm starting to think I'm doing something fundamentally wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJIXFFFxf_g

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
I think nearly everything I typed was stolen from the video Lumpy just posted lol. Uncle Ben is so helpful.

80k
Jul 3, 2004

careful!
I've been interested in overhauling my rig and getting more into digital modeling. I've mostly used tube combos in the past, but recently replaced it with a Quilter and a cabinet with neo magnet speakers... really happy with it, especially given how lightweight the whole setup is. I pretty much have to rely on pedals for overdrive though, and can't really replicate the overdrive I'd get with a boost going into a tube amp. Overall I'm pretty happy with it as a pedal platform, but honestly, I think I've had enough of tap dancing on pedals and dealing with patch cables.

I'm looking into the Helix stomp or the Fractal FM3, but I really don't want to spend all my guitar time on a computer, being overwhelmed with the settings. Curious on any advice from people who have gone this route. I don't even have a Windows or Mac PC so that is another problem. I could envision tweaking things on a phone or tablet, and I saw that someone made an iOS and Android app for Fractal equipment, but the price of the dongle and the app adds another chunk of money to it and not sure how well supported it will be.

nitsuga
Jan 1, 2007

Maybe a left field suggestion here, but what about a Boss ME-80? The models are pretty good, and it’s got a thorough WYSIWYG interface with no computer necessary. I’m no help with the other two, but I thought I’d throw out an alternate.

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

Big modeling fan here, covered them for various publications and independently since 2008 and used them for every recording I ever made. Still just a guy though, this is all subjective and based on taste. But, given my recent experiences with the current tech, if I were personally going to invest in a discrete modeling processor today I'd be confident with Fractal as their track record for high quality DSP is great; I'm impressed with Line6's most recent efforts as a huge step up from their "old days" and nicely competitive in most cases; but for my money I'd probably pick Neural DSP because I think at this time they have the best sounding amp modeling tech that is truest to the original gear and maybe as importantly super fun to use, feels great to play. I can easily see a case for picking any of them though. And, I want to note that the general quality of amp modeling has gotten a lot more competitive and even less prestigious ones can sound quite good, especially if you take the time to mix them (which you're gonna have to do anyway, with anything, to get a good fit and a nice sounding overall mix).

Even Zoom is sounding good these days, IMO, tried a G6 recently and quite liked what it could do although I don't think it is the best of the best. Great price on them relatively speaking, though, in a market where these things tend to be $700 at a minimum and go way up from there it stands out at $399 but doesn't suck and has an easy to use touch screen interface. Not the best I/O on it, weakness for sure, and as stated I don't think it's at the top of the heap for drat sure but to illustrate the spread it's far from being bad sounding when you dial it in for a comparative bargain price.

Agreed fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Aug 19, 2022

80k
Jul 3, 2004

careful!

nitsuga posted:

Maybe a left field suggestion here, but what about a Boss ME-80? The models are pretty good, and it’s got a thorough WYSIWYG interface with no computer necessary. I’m no help with the other two, but I thought I’d throw out an alternate.

I haven't tried the ME-80 but have tried other Boss multi-effects pedals. It's nice, but I've been down that road and trying to completely overhaul my gear... amp modeling directly into monitors or FRFR powered speaker.


Agreed posted:

Big modeling fan here, covered them for various publications and independently since 2008 and used them for every recording I ever made. Still just a guy though, this is all subjective and based on taste. But, given my recent experiences with the current tech, if I were personally going to invest in a discrete modeling processor today I'd be confident with Fractal as their track record for high quality DSP is great; I'm impressed with Line6's most recent efforts as a huge step up from their "old days" and nicely competitive in most cases; but for my money I'd probably pick Neural DSP because I think at this time they have the best sounding amp modeling tech that is truest to the original gear and maybe as importantly super fun to use, feels great to play. I can easily see a case for picking any of them though. And, I want to note that the general quality of amp modeling has gotten a lot more competitive and even less prestigious ones can sound quite good, especially if you take the time to mix them (which you're gonna have to do anyway, with anything, to get a good fit and a nice sounding overall mix).

Even Zoom is sounding good these days, IMO, tried a G6 recently and quite liked what it could do although I don't think it is the best of the best. Great price on them relatively speaking, though, in a market where these things tend to be $700 at a minimum and go way up from there it stands out at $399 but doesn't suck and has an easy to use touch screen interface. Not the best I/O on it, weakness for sure, and as stated I don't think it's at the top of the heap for drat sure but to illustrate the spread it's far from being bad sounding when you dial it in for a comparative bargain price.

Thanks! Not sure I am ready to go down the Neural DSP path but will keep an eye on it. I'll also look into the Zoom, but based on what I am seeing, it seems the Helix (or maybe POD Go) could be the right choice for me.

Clarence
May 3, 2012

Thanks for the Floyd Rose pointers.

It does seem crazy that simply tuning can take 20-30 minutes!

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

Clarence posted:

Thanks for the Floyd Rose pointers.

It does seem crazy that simply tuning can take 20-30 minutes!

That's only tuning from scratch with a set of fresh strings. Once it's balanced and locked it should effectively stay in tune until you unlock it again, bar the odd minor tweak to account for neck shift.

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NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
That's 20 to 30 mins for a full restring and stretch and tune which isn't so bad, not really that much longer than on my hardtails.
I'll tend to do it whilst watching TV or something, like anything guitar related the more you do it the faster it gets and it becomes more like muscle memory

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