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Nucleic Acids posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/MForstater/status/1560167387860795397 Isn’t this lady a big TERF, like her lawsuit about why she should be allowed to be a hateful bigot to her co-workers and still get her work contract renewed was a cause celebre?
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AlbieQuirky posted:Isn’t this lady a big TERF, like her lawsuit about why she should be allowed to be a hateful bigot to her co-workers and still get her work contract renewed was a cause celebre?
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Seems weird since TERFs often forget trans men exist I would assume she'd be in favor of free menstrual products because it'd be a social welfare system that wouldn't benefit trans women.
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LawfulWaffle posted:Wimpy was ahead of his time I'll gladly pay you in monthly installments over the next twenty years for a cheeseburger today.
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Skwirl posted:Seems weird since TERFs often forget trans men exist I would assume she'd be in favor of free menstrual products because it'd be a social welfare system that wouldn't benefit trans women. The language around period poverty has tended to be fairly inclusive (or at least the bits of I've seen working in education, I cant speak for the whole thing), so the period products are available to "Anyone who needs them" or "People who are menstruating". I dont know for sure, but I suspect thats set of the terf "CANT EVEN SAY WOMAN ANY MORE!!!!!!!!" brainworms to want to blow up the whole thing. They're absolutely willing to hurt poor cis women and girls if it means one less instance of inclusive language. loving monomaniacal spite goblins, every one of the fuckers.
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SiKboy posted:The language around period poverty has tended to be fairly inclusive (or at least the bits of I've seen working in education, I cant speak for the whole thing), so the period products are available to "Anyone who needs them" or "People who are menstruating". I dont know for sure, but I suspect thats set of the terf "CANT EVEN SAY WOMAN ANY MORE!!!!!!!!" brainworms to want to blow up the whole thing. They're absolutely willing to hurt poor cis women and girls if it means one less instance of inclusive language. loving monomaniacal spite goblins, every one of the fuckers. Ahh, that makes sense. How expensive are period products? I know obviously there's a ton of people on the edge of poverty were even a couple extra bucks a month in expenses can gently caress with them, but I realized I genuinely have no concept of what they cost.
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Skwirl posted:Ahh, that makes sense. How expensive are period products? I know obviously there's a ton of people on the edge of poverty were even a couple extra bucks a month in expenses can gently caress with them, but I realized I genuinely have no concept of what they cost. Honestly, not that expensive AFAIK, like a couple of quid for a pack. But as you say, a couple of quid a month makes a real difference in some cases. The school I work in has a very mixed catchment area, with some well off areas and some extremely deprived areas. Some of these young people literally cannot afford the additional expense of a replacement pencil and rubber, and I mean the word literally here. So the government providing something that will save that family a couple of quid (or means that a kid comes to school rather than stays home for a few days every month)? I'm all for it. And at the end of the day, if they arent expensive to buy in the supermarket then they also arent expensive to supply to schools, especially as the government can buy in bulk.
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Huh, weird. All the people who actually work towards feminist causes support/are trans people. I wonder what this means about my "feminist" friends who do nothing except get mad about trans people. I guess that means that all feminist causes are insidious trans plots and must be destroyed.Skwirl posted:Ahh, that makes sense. How expensive are period products? I know obviously there's a ton of people on the edge of poverty were even a couple extra bucks a month in expenses can gently caress with them, but I realized I genuinely have no concept of what they cost. They're not super expensive, but when you have no money, you can't afford 10 bucks. it's a necessity and it should be made available to all who need it. Same as with food and housing and medicine.
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skrapp mettle posted:Man, I was doing genealogy for my family and learned that I was related to some of the founders of Oregon as a state: Luther Elkins proposed a clause be inserted into the constitution that would “prohibit free negroes, or mulattoes coming into or settling in the state.” https://sos.oregon.gov/archives/exhibits/constitution/Pages/during-about-elkins.aspx My third-great uncle was a fenian. I don't have evidence of his racism like with yours, but everyone I knew from my grandparents' generation in my family was super duper racist so I think it's a safe bet.
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Most esoteric racism since "I hate when people who look Mongolian speak Spanish!"
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Dr. Stab posted:Huh, weird. All the people who actually work towards feminist causes support/are trans people. I wonder what this means about my "feminist" friends who do nothing except get mad about trans people. I guess that means that all feminist causes are insidious trans plots and must be destroyed. Yeah but also specifically it is a category of products that is necessary for roughly one half of humanity for dignified existence that the other half doesn't need. It's not some edge case. I mean yeah in a more general sense I would include food, insulin, housing etc as base needs that should be covered by default but I can't believe there's still an argument about this one. The answer is, of course, patriarchy on this one in particular but it's a reminder that some people also just don't have any understanding what it means to not have any spare money whatsoever, or at the level where you can afford it but just barely and the guy next door doesn't have to worry about that bit. A feminist dismissing this says a lot about where their priorities and allies lie, imo.
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Context: someone on Twitter (who’s since gone private over the backlash) posted a list of “problematic” authors https://twitter.com/sarahtbd2pointo/status/1560393905643827200?s=21&t=w4Nr1QyB2_yAHVYgYeBCmg Content: https://twitter.com/marxgasol/status/1560255666178166786?s=21&t=w4Nr1QyB2_yAHVYgYeBCmg
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Dr. Stab posted:I wonder what this means about my "feminist" friends who do nothing except get mad about trans people.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Most esoteric racism since "I hate when people who look Mongolian speak Spanish!" That I have to see.
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Regalingualius posted:Context: someone on Twitter (who’s since gone private over the backlash) posted a list of “problematic” authors What? https://twitter.com/incelReplies/status/1560105852027248642?s=20&t=MsC1VIg2-8sgXabJ0mA9jg
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HopperUK posted:Even better. Supermarkets are going to issue them. Iceland is a chain of frozen-food stores and they're going to be issuing interest-free loans so that people can buy food to eat. Henchman of Santa posted:Most esoteric racism since "I hate when people who look Mongolian speak Spanish!"
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DaysBefore posted:Finally someone to take down Shakespeare I really don't understand the accusation of misogynoir, because I don't remember there ever being any black women in Shakespeare. Is it because there aren't any black women in Shakespeare?
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I don't actually know anything about Burroughs, so "Murderer" did blow me over for a second.
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Ellie Crabcakes posted:So why are you friends with them? Brain worms. Also probably to grift them. She's made a bunch of money off of her crowdfunding to defend her legal right to harass trans people at work.
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gently caress, I keep going back to that "problematic authors" list and it accuses Neil Gaiman of transphobia. I think even he would agree that there were issues with his portrayal of a trans woman in Sandman, but it's also literally the only depiction that existed of a trans woman in mainstream comics at the time.
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Midnight Voyager posted:I don't actually know anything about Burroughs, so "Murderer" did blow me over for a second. He shot his wife in the head trying a William Tell trick with a pistol. He was almost certainly loving high as poo poo on heroin and god knows what else at the time. AFAIK she was a willing participant, so it's manslaughter.
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Skwirl posted:gently caress, I keep going back to that "problematic authors" list and it accuses Neil Gaiman of transphobia. I think even he would agree that there were issues with his portrayal of a trans woman in Sandman, but it's also literally the only depiction that existed of a trans woman in mainstream comics at the time. Says he is racist too. I mean the list doesn't offer any examples of it so we just have to take the lists word for it.
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Madkal posted:Says he is racist too. I mean the list doesn't offer any examples of it so we just have to take the lists word for it. He's got some weird race stuff in his earlier work, but like the issues with his writing of a trans woman in 1992 or whenever, it probably comes from being a cis white dude in his 20s making a conscious effort to include cultures and people that weren't him.
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Zero_Grade posted:As hard as it is to believe, I am fairly certain Iceland is actually a sovereign country. Probably  but it's both.Genuinely surprised Nabokov didn't make the poo poo list, he's usually enemy number one for that crowd.
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Skwirl posted:gently caress, I keep going back to that "problematic authors" list and it accuses Neil Gaiman of transphobia. I think even he would agree that there were issues with his portrayal of a trans woman in Sandman, but it's also literally the only depiction that existed of a trans woman in mainstream comics at the time.
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mycelia posted:Probably Really? Is it like the people who claim making Goodfellas means Martin Scorsese thinks mobsters are absolutely the coolest people ever who never did anything wrong? "I 100% endorse all of the actions of Humbert Humbert."
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Regalingualius posted:Context: someone on Twitter (who’s since gone private over the backlash) posted a list of “problematic” authors Here is a clearer version of the list https://twitter.com/nkbzodiac/status/1560410383986327552 At least I can still enjoy Ursula Le Guin
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Regalingualius posted:Context: someone on Twitter (who’s since gone private over the backlash) posted a list of “problematic” authors I recall seeing one reply that was just ‘can you save us the time and tell us which defense contract you work for’ that made me chuckle
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Oh god, does anyone know about Virginia Wolf doing blackface and speaking in gibberish to pass as a foreign dignitary? Because holy gently caress that sounds like a hilarious story.
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I mean all those are probably totally true too, but something about putting together a hit list of authors - most of whom everybody already knows really suck and also, are dead - is really funnyNucleic Acids posted:I recall seeing one reply that was just ‘can you save us the time and tell us which defense contract you work for’ that made me chuckle Lmao
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Has GRRM actually been accused of anything other than being slow AF and writing gross sex?
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GreenMetalSun posted:Has GRRM actually been accused of anything other than being slow AF and writing gross sex? He was really lovely about mispronouncing names when he hosted the Hugos. You're hosting it, the nominees are known weeks or months in advance, look at the loving list and maybe ask how to pronounce the names you aren't sure about.
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Skwirl posted:He was really lovely about mispronouncing names when he hosted the Hugos. You're hosting it, the nominees are known weeks or months in advance, look at the loving list and maybe ask how to pronounce the names you aren't sure about. Welp, that sucks.
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