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Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

And remember--no hulkin'

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anatomi
Jan 31, 2015

mcmagic posted:

If you have a better way to describe it i'm all ears lol.
What does "soy" mean, to you?

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!
I continue to be amazed at the people who openly hate the MCU, then insist on sitting through everything put out, and come here to gripe about hating the 34th property in a series that know they hated the previous 33 installments.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

LifeLynx posted:

I watched the Pitch Meeting video for Day Shift, as I do with lots of movies I don't ever intend to watch, and it's hilarious seeing those same things shared in the thread. Sometimes Pitch Meeting is nit-picky (though much funnier than Cinema Sins or Honest Movie Trailers, can't stomach those) but in this case it looks like he was dead on about glaring plot holes or inexplicably dropped things in the movie.

I love his videos so much, it's to the point now where I try to figure out what he's going to say while I'm watching the actual movie.

Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006
Is there news on the HBO max Lego dc shows? It’s literally the only way we’ve found to stop my autistic 4 year olds meltdowns and if that poo poo disappears….

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Just casually slipping an alt right meme into my commentary on the new Marvel movie lmao

Lazy_Liberal
Sep 17, 2005

These stones are :sparkles: precious :sparkles:
what does soy mean. like too effeminate?? she hulk? well i'm gay so i'm excited to watch at least

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
Arguably soy, based, cringe, etc have escaped 4chan containment and become a broader part of the terminally online lexicon whether or not you're an alt-right fascist

I haven't seen She-Hulk but I assume what he's describing is the kind of constant eye-rolling Whedonisms and undercutting any kind of tension or drama with "so THAT just happened" moments that has slowly come to define every single MCU property to the point of exhaustion

Arguably not a valid criticism for what is supposed to be a full-on comedy instead of an action movie where people make jokes, but then again people called Dr. Strange 2 a 'horror film' and it was tonally completely indistinguishable from a dozen other MCU movies and TV shows I've seen so :shrug:

Wolfsheim fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Aug 21, 2022

ozmunkeh
Feb 28, 2008

hey guys what is happening in this thread

Wolfsheim posted:

I haven't seen She-Hulk but I assume what he's describing is the kind of constant eye-rolling Whedonisms and undercutting any kind of tension or drama with "so THAT just happened" moments that has slowly come to define every single MCU property to the point of exhaustion

By “slowly” do you mean “since Iron Man”?

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

Wolfsheim posted:

Arguably soy, based, cringe, etc have escaped 4chan containment and become a broader part of the terminally online lexicon whether or not you're an alt-right fascist

Definitely not soy. That one is only used by people who worship alpha masculinity and think that estrogen is making men weak

War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN

feedmyleg posted:

Definitely not soy. That one is only used by people who worship alpha masculinity and think that estrogen is making men weak

"Soyface" has nothing to do with testosterone conspiracies it's referring to the face YouTubers make to appeal to the algorithm. There's also connotations here that TechBros drink Soylent. And the sense that soy based burgers are a bad imitation of the real thing.

Soy just means someone or something that js culturally supportive of big tech/media corporations.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

ozmunkeh posted:

By “slowly” do you mean “since Iron Man”?

The Edward Norton Hulk and first Captain America felt like movies genuinely made by someone who wasn't just trying to make Iron Man lite :colbert:

The first two Thors also felt like that but they're both pretty bad so eh

After the first Avengers is when it all started to feel truly homogeneous with Iron Man 3 being the last gasp of feeling like a director had any actual control over the movie he was directing

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Wolfsheim posted:

The Edward Norton Hulk and first Captain America felt like movies genuinely made by someone who wasn't just trying to make Iron Man lite :colbert:

The first two Thors also felt like that but they're both pretty bad so eh

After the first Avengers is when it all started to feel truly homogeneous with Iron Man 3 being the last gasp of feeling like a director had any actual control over the movie he was directing

The Avengers came out a decade ago. At this point, saying that every movie in a long-running series full of meet ups and cross overs has a similar tone isn't a valid criticism.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

live with fruit posted:

The Avengers came out a decade ago. At this point, saying that every movie in a long-running series full of meet ups and cross overs has a similar tone isn't a valid criticism.

How many of them had all the action scenes pre-rendered before they even hired a director, gotta be at least 75%

oh god oh fuck
Dec 22, 2019

feedmyleg posted:

Definitely not soy. That one is only used by people who worship alpha masculinity and think that estrogen is making men weak

As someone taking estrogen and making myself weak I'll say that it's fine, language is fluid and as it stands soyface is the term colloquially used to describe travis mcelroy's default expression

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Wolfsheim posted:

How many of them had all the action scenes pre-rendered before they even hired a director, gotta be at least 75%

I'm pretty sure it's in the nineties.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
They literally fired Edgar Wright from Ant Man for trying to make it an Edgar Wright movie lol

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Wolfsheim posted:

They literally fired Edgar Wright from Ant Man for trying to make it an Edgar Wright movie lol

They fired Wright cause he wanted to make a standalone film. The idea that they fired Wright for wanting to make a "Wright movie" comes from Wright himself.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

live with fruit posted:

They fired Wright cause he wanted to make a standalone film. The idea that they fired Wright for wanting to make a "Wright movie" comes from Wright himself.



I should probably watch She-Hulk if I'm gonna argue about it being one thing or another but I already saw Falcon & Winter Soldier (bad) and Hawkeye (good) so I feel like I got the full yin and yang of MCU D+ shows

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

Lazy_Liberal posted:

what does soy mean. like too effeminate?? she hulk? well i'm gay so i'm excited to watch at least

It's a reference to a pre-WW2 white supremacist conspiracy theory that asian men are effeminate because they eat soybeans which contains estrogen analog molecules, which was dusted off and had a bit of a modern polish applied as a part of the gamergate/alt-right/neo-nazi resurgence. Soyboys are effiminate men, soyface is a particular kind of facial expression made by effeminate men, etc. It is used by the same weirdos who draw green lines on photos to measure dominance by calculating who is leaning towards whom, and is interchangeable with e.g. cuck (and cuckface) or beta males or whatever.

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

I’m a soy boy beta cuck

anyway watch the she hulk ep now and not think too hard about anything :420:

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
FINALLY got around to watching Season 4 of Stranger Things. Jesus, with me having work and kids and the Duffer Brothers having no ability to cut anything, it took like 2 weeks to get through the last episode.

Overall enjoyable but it didn’t have to be *that* long and the separation into 3 groups was really not fun. I hope Season 5 is very much everyone in one group in Hawkins.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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anatomi posted:

What does "soy" mean, to you?

Whedon/Sorkin-esque quippy jokey banter that real people don't talk like.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
Now explain why you used an alt-right chud term instead of just calling it “quippy”

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Is "quippy" when every character talks like they are posting on the internet?

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Big Mean Jerk posted:

Now explain why you used an alt-right chud term instead of just calling it “quippy”

It was like an alt right term like 5 years ago. It's been co opted and is just internet speak now. I'm not alt right lol.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

mcmagic posted:

It was like an alt right term like 5 years ago. It's been co opted and is just internet speak now. I'm not alt right lol.

It sounds like you've been seeping in alt right circles. It hasn't passed onto the mainstream.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Nihonniboku posted:

It sounds like you've been seeping in alt right circles. It hasn't passed onto the mainstream.

Literally the first place I heard Whedon dialog described that way was on Chapo Trap House.

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005
The Boys season 3 had some dumb/cartoonish comic book plot conveniences but overall I really enjoyed it, more than season 2.

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

oh drat, the Chapo guys would never say something offensive unintentionally or ironically. great point.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

mcmagic posted:

Literally the first place I heard Whedon dialog described that way was on Chapo Trap House.

Clearly they were being ironic, but you aren't.

Seriously though it is still dumbspeak to me for effeminate leftist.

Now here is a link to hbomberguy's video about it so that you may be wok

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
A very brave podcaster tried to use "Awesome Culture" in place of soy and he was mocked relentlessly for it by his co-hosts. What could have been :smith:. It would be nice to have a good word for that specific energy without so much taint on it.

Parakeet vs. Phone fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Aug 22, 2022

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

quote:

podcast

No thanks

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

withak posted:

Is "quippy" when every character talks like they are posting on the internet?
"Quippy" isn't quite on the money because the root problem isn't that characters are constantly quipping. It's that they act like they're watching the movie and giving it the RiffTrax treatment, immediately signaling to the audience that none of this matters and you'd be stupid to get invested in it.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

mcmagic posted:

It was like an alt right term like 5 years ago. It's been co opted and is just internet speak now. I'm not alt right lol.

You are deeply incorrect.

GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.

pseudorandom name posted:

It's a reference to a pre-WW2 white supremacist conspiracy theory that asian men are effeminate because they eat soybeans which contains estrogen analog molecules, which was dusted off and had a bit of a modern polish applied as a part of the gamergate/alt-right/neo-nazi resurgence. Soyboys are effiminate men, soyface is a particular kind of facial expression made by effeminate men, etc. It is used by the same weirdos who draw green lines on photos to measure dominance by calculating who is leaning towards whom, and is interchangeable with e.g. cuck (and cuckface) or beta males or whatever.

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Now explain why you used an alt-right chud term instead of just calling it “quippy”

Nihonniboku posted:

It sounds like you've been seeping in alt right circles. It hasn't passed onto the mainstream.

feedmyleg posted:

You are deeply incorrect.



Can everyone in here who only posts on this website and nowhere else please stop acting like you know how the internet as a whole works? It's loving insane to act like saying "soy" is still an alt-right only thing.

War and Pieces posted:

"Soyface" has nothing to do with testosterone conspiracies it's referring to the face YouTubers make to appeal to the algorithm. There's also connotations here that TechBros drink Soylent. And the sense that soy based burgers are a bad imitation of the real thing.

Soy just means someone or something that js culturally supportive of big tech/media corporations.

This is correct. It was used as a dumb loving argument by the alt-right 6 years ago to describe "beta" males, then co-opted and used ironically to describe "soyfacing," people making youtube thumbnail-mouth-open faces at corporate poo poo. The people saying it don't believe in "Alpha/Beta" alt right poo poo (automatically).
Wild how out of touch with internet culture people on this website are. Go on a different website.

GonSmithe fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Aug 22, 2022

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

Halloween Jack posted:

"Quippy" isn't quite on the money because the root problem isn't that characters are constantly quipping. It's that they act like they're watching the movie and giving it the RiffTrax treatment, immediately signaling to the audience that none of this matters and you'd be stupid to get invested in it.

Yeah there's something very off about She-Hulk. This should have been a slam dunk to me but I didn't like it. I freely admit the Ruth Bader Ginsburg bobblehead and the lawyer girlboss poo poo put me off my oats but there's something very hollow about it at its core. At least the "Mighty Honk" airhorn gag was funny.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

GonSmithe posted:

Go on a different website.

No.

BisterdDave
Apr 21, 2004

Slitzweitz!
Thanks to whoever recommended Reservation Dogs! Just finished the first season and it was much better than I was anticipating.

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mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
I apologize for starting this dumb argument. I won't use the term "soy banter" going forward.

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