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Dillbag posted:How could you forget the batt insulated stairs I didn't forget them, but they're just kind of weirdly pointless instead of objectively terrible. Unlike this:
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Aug 22, 2022 04:45
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:- Zero attention to aesthetics, just plopped down a gigantic box tumor on the side of a regular house Outlets in the floor. Outlets in the ceiling. Just way, way too many outlets on each circuit.
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Aug 22, 2022 05:20
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Honestly I like outlets a lot. That complaint never jived with me.
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Aug 22, 2022 05:27
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Scarodactyl posted:Honestly I like outlets a lot. That complaint never jived with me. I kinda agree. If there aren't enough outlets people just add power bars wall warts anyway, so I'm not sure a 'too many outlets' house is more likely to overload a circuit. And if (big if) it is wired properly, wiring inside the walls is probably safer than power bars and extension cords of the floor. My dream home would have twice as many outlets as is standard, and they would all be at waist height.
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Aug 22, 2022 05:36
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Facebook Aunt posted:I kinda agree. If there aren't enough outlets people just add power bars wall warts anyway, so I'm not sure a 'too many outlets' house is more likely to overload a circuit. And if (big if) it is wired properly, wiring inside the walls is probably safer than power bars and extension cords of the floor. I can only imagine some guy getting his jimmies all jammied "by accident" with that kind of setup.
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Aug 22, 2022 05:59
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Scarodactyl posted:Honestly I like outlets a lot. That complaint never jived with me. I'm not arguing that having lots of outlets is a bad thing, I'm arguing that his implementation was super dumb just like everything else. I think that it was one of the reasons he couldn't get the worked signed off. How often do you think to yourself "it sure would be awesome if there were outlets in the ceiling over my cabinets"? He used wall outlets in the floor rather than buy code compliant floor outlets that are covered when not in use.
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Aug 22, 2022 06:26
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How many of those outlets go to the same fuse in the breaker box? How likely is it that people will plug enough poo poo into those outlets and use them at the same time to cause the breaker to switch off? My uncle installed about 120 outlets in a house ending up at around 1 outlet per 1½ meter. His explanation was that he got a discount on them when buying them in bulk and he might as well use them. Plus that meant he could plug his power tools in anywhere.
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Aug 22, 2022 07:11
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koshmar posted:So it's got 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, a spacious kitchen and direct access to a large cave system. Something about cottagecore Batman.
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Aug 22, 2022 10:42
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Slugworth posted:Your grandpa had no clue what the hell he was doing. A retail store I used to work at had several ancient vacuum cleaners for our miles of carpet, and one of them was missing a ground pin. I eventually found it.. still stuck in the outlet. Amazingly, it broke off flush with the plug and didn't protrude from the outlet at all so nobody else had ever noticed or cared.
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Aug 22, 2022 13:07
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:- Zero attention to aesthetics, just plopped down a gigantic box tumor on the side of a regular house - Insulated stairs - Wall that bowed out - Slab was not level - Inadequate plumbing because "what are the chances two people ever take a dump at once" - Shed that goes toot 
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Aug 22, 2022 13:18
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a podcast did an episode on it, the main dude is a goon. as far as i remember there's a bunch of house lore that is regularly shared that is outright incorrect, such as the inspection - i think they said the municipality did the inspection and signed off on it. It was a patreon ep for the "Well there's your problem" podcast... there's a preview but it doesn't have anything except them cracking jokes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJU-Q9gw_sg
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Aug 22, 2022 14:31
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iirc he joked about getting a permit to do his own inspections but out of context it looks like a serious plan
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Aug 22, 2022 14:53
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Empty Sandwich posted:iirc he joked about getting a permit to do his own inspections but out of context it looks like a serious plan I don't think it was about doing his own inspections. As I recall the permit/inspector required stamped engineering drawings (a totally normal requirement for a project of that size/scale/cost) and of course the place would have to be actually built to those drawings as stamped to close out the permit. Since no one would stamp that trainwreck he got whatever additional certs (already being some type of engineer - electrical I think) he needed to sign off on the building/mechanical portions of the plan himself.
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Aug 22, 2022 15:04
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it's okay, Grover claimed to be "the civilian equivalent of an Admiral" so why NOT sign off on your own work, it's not like there's a massive set of gotchas and industry best practices that require specialized knowledge and experience to not just perform serviceable work, but good work
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Aug 22, 2022 15:17
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He claimed to be O5 equivalent, not admiral. It was the same excuse he used to be a gip mod.
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Aug 22, 2022 15:20
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my mistake, stealing far too much valor on behalf of a combination aircraft carrier mechanic / computer janitor
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Aug 22, 2022 15:22
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Iirc he was some contracts manager or some poo poo. He didn't do poo poo besides shuffle papers. He wasn't a mechanic or a computer janitor.
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Aug 22, 2022 15:27
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Motronic posted:Since no one would stamp that trainwreck he got whatever additional certs (already being some type of engineer - electrical I think) he needed to sign off on the building/mechanical portions of the plan himself. well, poo poo. maybe this got goon-telephoned into the inspection story or maybe the call is coming from inside my memory.
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Aug 22, 2022 18:18
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Blue Footed Booby posted:They so clearly made exactly what they intended to make and it's so overwhelmingly weird that I kinda like it. I had a cubicle with a view of the Stata Center at MIT being built, and boy was that concerning until we realized an Architect was involved. (Say what you will about the outcome, but the initial construction was wildly entertaining to watch.)
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Aug 22, 2022 19:15
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`Nemesis posted:a podcast did an episode on it, the main dude is a goon. as far as i remember there's a bunch of house lore that is regularly shared that is outright incorrect, such as the inspection - i think they said the municipality did the inspection and signed off on it. Grover was a GOON?  This is shocking news.
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Aug 22, 2022 19:36
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SyNack Sassimov posted:Grover was a GOON? Grover was also a mod and kept probing people that gave him poo poo about the house.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Grover was also a mod and kept probing people that gave him poo poo about the house. It wasn't just Grover. The house kicked off a whole "mod sass" panic that led to people getting probed all over the forum for discussing the house - even up to probing people who posted gifs of Grover the muppet. The reaction is the biggest reason it's an internet legend and not an obscure bit of SA trivia.
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Aug 22, 2022 20:33
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He also made eerily accurate predictions about the course of the Iraq War. And by eerily accurate I mean completely innacurate.
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Aug 22, 2022 20:34
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Grover was also a mod and kept probing people that gave him poo poo about the house. Grover was a very petty mod. He probated a few people over the Katy Perry elmo shirt bouncing gif. In the gip drunk thread over a decade ago. Someone pull up his Iraq invasion predictions.
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How long will it take to capture Baghdad? 2 days Will Saddam be killed? Yes Total Iraqi civillian casualties: 500 dead Total military casualties Iraq: 3000 dead Total military casualties U.S.: 15 dead Will the Iraqi army regulars hold the lines? No Will the Republican Guard fight to the end? No Will chem/bio weapons be used on invading troops?: Yes Will Saddam launch attacks on the Kurds? Yes Will Saddam launch attacks on Israel? No -If yes; will Isreal retaliate harshly? Yes Will Saddam sacrifice Baghdad (gas/nuke it)? No Will the Kurds make a grab for independence? Yes Will Iran do anything silly like try for land? Yes Will Saddam burn the oil fields? Yes How long will the US be occupying Iraq? ~15 years Will the Iraq war catalyze increased terrorism in America?No In the long run, will this war be good or bad for the world? Good We have to look at what those civilian casualties are- just because they're civilian doesn't make them innocent! Lets take a look at a few possibilities: 1) A civilian walking down the street to market gets killed by a cruise missile fired at the market. 2) A civilian asleep in their house is killed when their house is targetting by a smart bomb and blown up. OK, these two are regrettable innocents being killed- but since the US doesn't make a habit of targetting markets or houses, they're very small in number! 3) A civilian working at a chemical weapon factory gets killed when the chemical weapon plant is bombed. 4) A civilian security guard at a weapons depot is killed when the weapons explode. 5) A civilian contractor repairing a tank is killed by a MOAB dropped on the unit. 6) A civilian engineer is killed when the military command center he works at is destroyed. 7) A civilian delivering snackiecakes to the baghdad bunker vending machines eats a 5,000lb bunker buster. etc, etc. The list goes on. My point is that there are a lot of civilians directly supporting the military that aren't exactly "innocent" and would be mire rightly counted among the military casualties than civilian. I'm a civilian and work for the US military, but I acknowledge I'm also a valid military target because of what I do. And I think the vast majority of civilian casualties in this campaign will not be innocent.
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`Nemesis posted:a podcast did an episode on it, the main dude is a goon. as far as i remember there's a bunch of house lore that is regularly shared that is outright incorrect, such as the inspection - i think they said the municipality did the inspection and signed off on it. There’s a link to the full episode if you dig a little. Donoteat shared it with the fine people of C-SPAM.
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Aug 22, 2022 21:44
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Motronic posted:I don't think it was about doing his own inspections. As I recall the permit/inspector required stamped engineering drawings (a totally normal requirement for a project of that size/scale/cost) and of course the place would have to be actually built to those drawings as stamped to close out the permit. Since no one would stamp that trainwreck he got whatever additional certs (already being some type of engineer - electrical I think) he needed to sign off on the building/mechanical portions of the plan himself. Yeah, he got his Professional Engineer license to stamp his own drawings. The PE test is pretty brutal and requires serious study, so good for him for getting it I guess. At the end of the day, the AHJ still had to sign off on the permits and inspections. e: few states separate PE by discipline beyond sectioning off structural engineering. If you're a PE, you can stamp any discipline, but you're assuming civil and potentially criminal liability. brugroffil fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Aug 22, 2022 |
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brugroffil posted:At the end of the day, the AHJ still had to sign off on the permits and inspections. As a former AHJ I would absolutely require stamped drawings for something like that, but stamping drawings don't make things in the drawings that aren't to code acceptable. I'm guessing nothing was blatant enough or the inspector wasn't really paying attention (or just wanted to be done dealing with him) but the place was full of obvious code violations, mostly related to quality and workmanship.
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Aug 22, 2022 21:56
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Weembles posted:It wasn't just Grover. I've been banned for posting a photo of groverhaus. I regret nothing.
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Motronic posted:As a former AHJ I would absolutely require stamped drawings for something like that, but stamping drawings don't make things in the drawings that aren't to code acceptable. Wasn't he also having major groundwater problems? I seem to recall him spending a great deal of time & energy addressing hydrostatic pressure issues. It's a miracle he didn't come across any Civil War dead or first nations burials. That would have been a poo poo-show. PainterofCrap fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Aug 23, 2022 |
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PainterofCrap posted:Wasn't he also having major groundwater problems? I seem to recall him spending a great deal of time & energy addressing hydrostatic pressure issues. Being built on a native American burial ground is really just the cherry on top.
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 Honestly i can't blame them, that side of the house faces a very busy street
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For rent: 1 room deficiency apartment
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The thing that gets me about it is that if they'd actually walled in that space properly, then probably people would think a combination of "the ceiling in the stairwell is a little low" and "oh! a bed nook, neat!" It'd still be a weird apartment, but it wouldn't be an indefensibly weird one.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:The thing that gets me about it is that if they'd actually walled in that space properly, then probably people would think a combination of "the ceiling in the stairwell is a little low" and "oh! a bed nook, neat!" It'd still be a weird apartment, but it wouldn't be an indefensibly weird one. At the bare minimum, they could have added some storage solution under the bed where there is just wasted space now. Some deep drawers or something.
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