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mawarannahr posted:they’ll just kill you and take your stuff or you’ll suffer crop failure or your poo poo will burn down or you’ll not have clean water or you’ll die of something antibiotics could have handled in the 20th century. Seems like a cope for somebody who doesn't want to have to commit time to developing practical skills You know what I say to this, though, really? At least if that happens, I'll have spent the last few years of my life during the fall of society working with my hands and taking care of animals instead of huddling with 30,000 starving people in a stadium converted into a refugee camp Y'all may find the city comforting but it's only ever been a miserable place for me to be and the idea of staying there as things get progressively worse seems worse than suicidal to me I find the society built for ourselves to be empty and unfulfilling when it is functioning as intended. You will have to excuse me for not wanting to linger in the ruins of the civilization we have built while it burns down around us. Mirthless has issued a correction as of 15:58 on Aug 22, 2022 |
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Aug 22, 2022 15:54
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I was born in the city and will die by the city, plus you probably have to drive and have fuel to be a farmer and I can’t drive. I hope you live to see 103 though  I just don’t think it’s going to work out for much of anyone. i get anxious in a place with fewer than a million pop mawarannahr has issued a correction as of 16:00 on Aug 22, 2022 |
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Aug 22, 2022 15:58
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meDpNwem0Vo
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Aug 22, 2022 16:12
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silicone thrills posted:Yeah I do a bunch of my clothes on one of those indoor racks to make em last longer. Dryers destroy clothes and I started doing it way before I knew how power intensive dryers were. Once I learned heat breaks down elastics I was like oh this is stupid. I think it depends a lot on the quality of the fabrics etc but I don't think heat has to be a concern. Mechanical agitation over time will destroy anything, sure. The pants that I chronically own 2-3 pairs of (which tend to only last 2-3 years each but I am hard as poo poo on clothes because maple and weed poo poo involves lots of kneeling, trees and the falling out of them, blades, hot surfaces) are Kuhl Above The Law which are 98% cotton, 2% spandex. The melt point of spandex is 230c but it starts to degrade at 180c, possibly a bit lower. The max temp in my dryer is about 71c. This indicates heat isn't a problem for cotton and it's just the agitation from being pounded clean and dry: https://www.reviewed.com/laundry/features/how-dryers-destroy-your-clothes. In #3 there they cite a study which found massive damage to fabric after 20 wash cycles but trying to dig into that it looks like the actual study used stretch denim which has on average like 50% more elastine in it but also usually seems like thinner shittier denim in general compared to real work pants, and I'd love to see that study repeated with equally cheap 100% denim pants because I think the results might be similar. Mechanical agitation fucks up your clothes but I think a bigger driving force here is that the quality of denim and material in mass produced inexpensive clothing has tanked. Here's a 10 year old reddit thread bitching about Levi's getting shittier: https://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/cxh9n/has_anyone_else_notivced_a_decline_in_the_quality/ Mirthless posted:
[quote]At Savatthi, King Pasenadi of Kosala said to the Blessed One: “Venerable sir, is anyone who is born free from aging and death?” “Great king, no one who is born is free from aging and death. Even those affluent khattiyas—rich, with great wealth and property, with abundant gold and silver, abundant treasures and commodities, abundant wealth and grain—because they have been born, are not free from aging and death. Even those affluent brahmins … affluent householders—rich … with abundant wealth and grain—because they have been born, are not free from aging and death. Even those monks who are arahants, whose taints are destroyed, who have lived the holy life, done what had to be done, laid down the burden, reached their own goal, utterly destroyed the fetters of existence, and are completely liberated through final knowledge: even for them this body is subject to breaking up, subject to being laid down. “The beautiful chariots of kings wear out, This body too undergoes decay. But the Dhamma of the good does not decay: So the good proclaim along with the good.”[/.quote] Cabbages and VHS has issued a correction as of 16:17 on Aug 22, 2022 |
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Aug 22, 2022 16:14
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personally my entire survival plan solely consists of speedrunning the Vermont Trail so I can beg for entry into the Cabbage Kingdom
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Aug 22, 2022 16:16
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the best thing about dryers slowly shredding ur shirts is that u can make really good fire starters out of the lint trap trapped lint just mix it with some melted parafin and make it into little discs on some waxed paper, when u need a campfire just snap a piece off and the tiniest spark will ignite the exposed side - any unsnapped discs are completely waterproof because they're mostly wax so if ur fire starters get rained on u can just half-assedly wipe them off and still get a fire going
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Aug 22, 2022 16:18
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Hubbert posted:personally my entire survival plan solely consists of speedrunning the Vermont Trail so I can beg for entry into the Cabbage Kingdom I can hear my wife now. "Who are all these caravans that keep showing up?!?!?!" "Are they shouting stuff like BDOOM you're getting a BDELL, and TROMP TRAMP TRMUP? Eh, let them in and see if we have some more weed or moonshine or something. THEN CLOSE THE GATE AGAIN"  I should live so long and be so lucky! My experiment growing squash in a different pasture this year was killed in the crib by our very active deer and groundhog population. Looks like I have to dig another 120' of 12" x 12" ditch to support a fence, maybe I can just pay someone else this time. blatman posted:the best thing about dryers slowly shredding ur shirts is that u can make really good fire starters out of the lint trap trapped lint I'm tempted to start saving lint as a useful accelerant when petro gets harder to come by, on the other hand, if I just had a pressed cube of the poo poo stored in my barn I'd be afraid of it doing the "old, damp hay" thing and just spontaneously exploding.
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Aug 22, 2022 16:19
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:I just use the laundromat like the filthy poor that I am. $1.50 wash, $1.00 dry. And I get to read the Thrifty Nickel while I'm there. please don’t get monkeypox
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Aug 22, 2022 16:20
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Cabbages and Kings posted:I'm tempted to start saving lint as a useful accelerant when petro gets harder to come by, on the other hand, if I just had a pressed cube of the poo poo stored in my barn I'd be afraid of it doing the "old, damp hay" thing and just spontaneously exploding. if u wax them they wont spontaneously explode but be aware that they tend to stick together if you're storing a whole bunch of them together in the same container
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Aug 22, 2022 16:23
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i'm no roman city expert, but i don't think it's quite accurate to say that everyone in cities died when the roman empire collapsed (something that took quite a while, too, probably better to say "dissolved")
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Aug 22, 2022 16:28
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cities are full of food
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Aug 22, 2022 16:29
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My survival plan is to become Peter Thiels lover.
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Aug 22, 2022 16:30
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:i'm no roman city expert, but i don't think it's quite accurate to say that everyone in cities died when the roman empire collapsed (something that took quite a while, too, probably better to say "dissolved") To be clear; the core roman empire was essentially fine for the entire period of collapse, and areas in the Mediterranean essentially just switched hands, but their settlements in Gaul and the British isles were pretty rapidly abandoned and there's no reason to believe many of the citizens survived because most of the practices of rome disappeared, and most of the roman infrastructure left behind was abandoned (compare this to places in Iberia or the Mediterranean, where roman walls are routinely repaired for up to a thousand years after roman administrators left) Scholars, administrators, and people with deeply infrastructure dependent roles would have had to abandon their prior way of life or starve. The whole reason we define this period of history as "the dark ages" is because all of the recordkeeping stops for like 2/3rds of Europe. Post-Rome, most of europe lacks the underlying infrastructure to support structured settlements like this, and continues to lack that infrastructure for hundreds of years afterwards Mirthless has issued a correction as of 16:52 on Aug 22, 2022 |
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Aug 22, 2022 16:36
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Mirthless posted:Seems like a cope for somebody who doesn't want to have to commit time to developing practical skills Your vision is cope too. It's all cope.
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Aug 22, 2022 16:36
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Unless posted:please don’t get monkeypox I usually just sit/lean on my car out front and smoke while my clothes spin. I might spend 5 minutes inside total. I just take the Thrifty Nickel outside with me.
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Aug 22, 2022 16:40
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Chad Sexington posted:Your vision is cope too. It's all cope.
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Aug 22, 2022 16:41
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Chad Sexington posted:It's all cope. 
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Aug 22, 2022 16:54
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:I usually just sit/lean on my car out front and smoke while my clothes spin. I might spend 5 minutes inside total. I just take the Thrifty Nickel outside with me. use oxyclean for your clothes and don’t use a shared dryer, if you have to use it at the highest heat setting
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Aug 22, 2022 17:02
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Unless posted:use oxyclean for your clothes and don’t use a shared dryer, if you have to use it at the highest heat setting Holy poo poo, is monkeypox actually transmissable this way?
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Aug 22, 2022 17:05
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Yeah, not sure on that. We haven't had a reported case in my county yet that I'm aware of, but I'll check. E: one confirmed.
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Aug 22, 2022 17:08
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Mirthless posted:Holy poo poo, is monkeypox actually transmissable this way? i don't think theres been a case written about that was caused by a contaminated washing machine ever. everything i've read says normal - if hot - wd use will very likely be fine. the issue with laundry is when you're washing scab sheets
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Aug 22, 2022 17:10
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I’m honestly not sure if arfjason is doing a bit like he’s been doing for ten years on a host of threads and topics or unironically making GBS threads on people in this thread for worrying about an extinction event
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Aug 22, 2022 17:17
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blatman posted:the best thing about dryers slowly shredding ur shirts is that u can make really good fire starters out of the lint trap trapped lint egg cartons, put some lint in egg cartons and fill the rest of the space with wax which will then soak into the egg carton
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Aug 22, 2022 17:17
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Basic Poster posted:I’m honestly not sure if arfjason is doing a bit like he’s been doing for ten years on a host of threads and topics or unironically making GBS threads on people in this thread for worrying about an extinction event he's coping with us, not at us
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Aug 22, 2022 17:18
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Mirthless posted:Small communities of farmers and pastroalists are the communities best positioned to survive civil collapse because they are the ones least dependent on civil society for their only truly vital resources (food and water) and have the smallest overhead of non-productive citizens to feed. here is an entirely hypothetical scenario what if 75% of the insects were missing? what if the growing climate was wildly swinging from extreme heat/cold/drought/flood? what if the rain and groundwater were full of poison? &c what if Chad Sexington posted:It's all cope.
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Aug 22, 2022 17:21
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I didn't ask to be on this ride I'm just hanging on the best I can
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Aug 22, 2022 17:24
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Shifty Nipples posted:I didn't ask to be on this ride I'm just hanging on the best I can
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Aug 22, 2022 17:26
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kyojin posted:here is an entirely hypothetical scenario Isolate and stockpile and hope for the best If we're very lucky the population will j-curve before we permanently ruin everything Without infrastructure to bring back antibiotics we'll have a controllable population and we can write in our holy books to never eat the mold of bread for it can only be the doom of us all
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Aug 22, 2022 17:29
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thou shalt wash thine hands but with only natural soaps and friction
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Aug 22, 2022 17:32
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Basic Poster posted:I’m honestly not sure if arfjason is doing a bit like he’s been doing for ten years on a host of threads and topics or unironically making GBS threads on people in this thread for worrying about an extinction event you might wanna check the cringe levels in this post, they could be deeply problematic
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Aug 22, 2022 17:34
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Mirthless posted:thou shalt wash thine hands but with only natural soaps and friction I'm not an old timey English expert but I think shalt means shall not
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Aug 22, 2022 17:36
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Mirthless posted:Isolate and stockpile and hope for the best This is where you (and I, and everyone here) might want to consider a solar-backup deepfreeze that has broad spectrum, gram positive, and gram negative ABX. There's plenty of "not quite total collapse" scenarios where that seems useful. Also, you can use fishtank antibiotics for this, my microbiologist aunt has long endorsed this as a doomsday plan. No idea about this site but it's all over google: https://aquanestbiotic.com/
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Aug 22, 2022 17:38
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I already have the holy book of C-SPAM
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Aug 22, 2022 17:38
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Iron Crowned posted:I already have the holy book of C-SPAM it just says "faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt" for pages and pages
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Aug 22, 2022 17:39
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Shifty Nipples posted:I'm not an old timey English expert but I think shalt means shall not thou shalt not kill, except posters like this
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Aug 22, 2022 17:39
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Shifty Nipples posted:it just says "faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt" for pages and pages actually the book is in code and if you read it upside down under a blacklight you get this mysterious cipher: Piss Tape is Real the da pee pee code
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Aug 22, 2022 17:42
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Cabbages and Kings posted:I can hear my wife now. "Who are all these caravans that keep showing up?!?!?!" I don't know about ground hogs, but a simple solution for deer that works for us, is using stakes or whatever you have and running fishing line between them and then hanging streamers. Foil or plastic works. Run the line about 4 or 5 feet up. Freaks em out.
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Aug 22, 2022 17:43
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Shifty Nipples posted:I'm not an old timey English expert but I think shalt means shall not shaln't
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Aug 22, 2022 18:10
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-62554066quote:Esso has secured an injunction to stop environmental protesters disrupting construction of an underground aviation fuel pipeline. quote:The barrister said Mr Breen, "a known tunneller", had dug himself into land owned by Runnymede Borough Council, at a "sensitive" position near the M25 needed by Esso's contractors for access. I'm also a known tunneller at sensitive positions 
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Aug 22, 2022 18:10
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https://www.universetoday.com/157156/satellites-are-tracking-rivers-of-garbage-flowing-across-the-oceans/ Satellites are Tracking Rivers of Garbage Flowing Across the Oceans  quote:the European Space Agency is tracking ocean-bound plastics through the auspices of the MARLISAT project. It’s one of 25 efforts created to identify and trace marine litter as it moves through the world’s waterways. The ultimate goal is to help countries reduce ocean litter, particularly plastics. quote:There’s a lot of trash out there. According to the European Space Agency, the equivalent of a truckload of plastic makes its way into the oceans every minute. The U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) states there is no part of the world left untouched by ocean debris. Water-borne garbage is widespread and it affects all the world’s waterways and oceans. quote:The MARLISAT project uses tracking buoys and Earth observation imagery from space to detect sources of plastic and other garbage in the ocean. The data collected help forecast the motion of this stuff and where it tends to accumulate. An ocean drift model called MOBIDRIFT, developed by CLS, helps predict the location of ocean garbage as it moves around the globe. In addition, the data and satellite images are used in a machine learning algorithm being developed to detect plastic accumulation along beaches and ocean hotspots. quote:Plastics dumped at sea don’t biodegrade. Instead, wave action tears them to little bits. Shellfish and other species then eat these microplastic pieces. As a result of this contamination, the chemicals used to manufacture the plastics pass along to other animals up the food chain. Ultimately, humans eat some of these animals, and we, too, are contaminated with the same chemicals. These are likely toxic, depending on how much we eat, the type of plastic polymer ingested, and other factors.
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