|
SettingSun posted:Even if everyone gets in the belly (everyone can't as eventually Cerberus will be sated), everyone will come out of it with plenty of time for someone who was in there to grab a chain if necessary. Yeah the thing that bothers me most about Adds Belly Chains is that those last two mechanics don’t even happen at the same time! There’s no reason to divide it by group!
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 15:10
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 26, 2024 06:16 |
|
|
Vermain posted:Hell, Reawkening's long enough that the optimal strat is for one person to hold their chain for as long as possible (re: able to apply it before the carry buff runs out) just so you can beat on Cerberus more without dealing with mechanics. I hate when people do this because I never know whether they're doing it or whether they don't know how to attach the chain
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 15:12
|
|
|
I haven't gotten Relict in awhile in the roo, does everyone still return after killing the big lava guy or is that over?
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 15:16
|
|
|
HackensackBackpack posted:I haven't gotten Relict in awhile in the roo, does everyone still return after killing the big lava guy or is that over? There was literally never a reason to because somebody has to wait at the end anyway or the boss door won't open. So either you wait there, or waste Recall and wait at the boss (or blow Recall and rush into the boss room before the whole party is there, so the boss takes longer to kill).
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 15:21
|
|
|
I was very recently in a WoD where I was the only person who went in the belly. I was a tank, so it was a slow death which led to a wipe. Always go in the belly. Don't assume other people know how to do it.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 15:25
|
|
|
Qwertycoatl posted:I hate when people do this because I never know whether they're doing it or whether they don't know how to attach the chain I hate because people who try it almost always overestimate how long they can hold on the chain before the chain zips back. so by the time someone else grabs it, reawakening already popped and we wipe.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 15:34
|
|
|
I have done WoD probably two dozen times over the last two years. I do not know how the chains mechanic works. I have always gone into the belly.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 15:45
|
|
|
I always go in too. I've never done the chains. I assume it's interact with thing, run to dog, interact with thing? idk getting eaten is more interesting
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 15:49
|
|
|
Thundarr posted:There was literally never a reason to because somebody has to wait at the end anyway or the boss door won't open. So either you wait there, or waste Recall and wait at the boss (or blow Recall and rush into the boss room before the whole party is there, so the boss takes longer to kill). I know, but it became such a *thing* when it was in Expert. One time I was in a group where all three but me hit it the second the guy died, so I returned as well just to show 'em and everyone was very annoyed.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 16:01
|
|
|
i think the last time i saw chains fail was back in stormblood
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 16:04
|
|
|
Thundarr posted:There was literally never a reason to because somebody has to wait at the end anyway or the boss door won't open. So either you wait there, or waste Recall and wait at the boss (or blow Recall and rush into the boss room before the whole party is there, so the boss takes longer to kill). Having 3 people start killing the boss at T=0s with the healer or tank popping in at T=15s is going to make the boss die earlier than having everyone pull the boss at T=15s, even if the actual boss takes longer. Pulling without everyone present is never going to delay the kill, it just means that 1-23 people do some damage during the waiting period instead of standing around. It's the same reason pull timers are a suboptimization when not facing an enrage if your goal is real time speed: sure, you'll do more dps, but you wont hasten the end of the fight by as much as you delayed the start of it. Is that 12s-ish potential gain worth it, especially given how angry some players get if you pull bosses without them and they get the arena teleport? Well, that's up to you. I will say the one Relict run where I pulled the boss on WHM and then had to healer-tank the entire fight while the DRK sulked in a corner was not a gain in clear time.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 16:10
|
|
|
DemoneeHo posted:I hate because people who try it almost always overestimate how long they can hold on the chain before the chain zips back. so by the time someone else grabs it, reawakening already popped and we wipe. It'd be nice if the "I am holding a chain" buff didn't last just about 5 seconds shorter than the remaining Reawaken castbar at the time, i.e. too long for many people to notice that it will expire and exactly the length that it will expire with no chance to pick it up again
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 16:13
|
|
|
the only wipes i have had on cerberus in the last year (at least) have been when people hold the chain for "free dps" there are no circumstances where it is a good idea even if you are confident in the chain timers.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 16:19
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/SOKENsquareenix/status/1561670749441519616?t=V7_wvIMeAIjCaqSmlH54dg&s=19
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 16:23
|
|
|
I've been setting up a Steam Deck and I'm looking forward to getting FFXIV working on it. Comfy portable MMO time... anyone else playing the game like that, and if so, any secret tips that the youtube tutorials won't tell me?
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 16:31
|
|
|
TheWorldsaStage posted:https://twitter.com/SOKENsquareenix/status/1561670749441519616?t=V7_wvIMeAIjCaqSmlH54dg&s=19 For the release of the Primals video of To The Edge, of course. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1jkevEv-Rw
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 16:34
|
|
|
RME posted:i think the last time i saw chains fail was back in stormblood I saw a group greed the chains and wipe to Cerberus just a few weeks ago.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 16:41
|
|
|
Do you think Soken makes that joke every time the workday's over
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 16:47
|
|
|
Alxprit posted:I've been setting up a Steam Deck and I'm looking forward to getting FFXIV working on it. Comfy portable MMO time... anyone else playing the game like that, and if so, any secret tips that the youtube tutorials won't tell me? You won't even need a YouTube tutorial unless you just work that much better with videos than with written guides. I followed this guide and it worked out well for me. To clarify the first paragraph: 1. If you license FFXIV via Steam, go ahead and just install that first. 2. If you license FFXIV via Square Enix, you will at least need the Steam FFXIV Free Trial installed because for some reason it still needs something in Steam to make this go super smooth. XIVLauncher will be the thing handling the version of Proton to use and such, you won't need to mess around with selecting custom versions or anything. Honestly they've made it pretty streamlined.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 16:59
|
|
|
Zomborgon posted:Do you think Soken makes that joke every time the workday's over I really hope so
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 17:41
|
|
|
FuturePastNow posted:I saw a group greed the chains and wipe to Cerberus just a few weeks ago. dire times we live in i had a tank single pulling in zot yesterday too. maybe df was a mistake
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 18:04
|
|
|
My leveling today was a single puller in Qitana Ravel : ( Even the bat packs.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 18:08
|
|
|
Jabbering Idiot posted:Borderlands (Secure) has kinda had issues with the game mode taking far longer than the other Frontlines ever since they put in the 20 seconds of invulnerability on leaving your base, because its built around exponentially awarding more points to teams that simultaneously hold more and more nodes, but that rez/return invulnerability makes it all but impossible to hold nodes right in front of adversary spawn points. I'd MUCH rather have longer matches than have to spend 5-15 minutes being bullied in my own spawn by two teams fighting over the point out front like happened in the bad old days
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 18:11
|
|
|
Borderlands should be reworked, it was bad before pvp 2.0 and abysmal after. But at least it gives no particular rewards unlike the other frontlines maps, so it's easy to just skip it. My frontlines group just takes borderlands days off
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 18:19
|
|
|
I still have a gold cert from Khloe. Would now be a good time to flip it, or wait until people start looking to buy ornates/the prizes rotate?
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 18:41
|
|
|
Vinigre posted:You won't even need a YouTube tutorial unless you just work that much better with videos than with written guides. I followed this guide and it worked out well for me. To clarify the first paragraph: Oh, since it's using a third-party launcher, maybe I should wait a day or two after 6.2 comes out to make sure it won't break compatability or what have you? No need to rush in any case, but it's definitely kind of awkward timing.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 18:47
|
|
|
Pollyanna posted:I still have a gold cert from Khloe. Would now be a good time to flip it, or wait until people start looking to buy ornates/the prizes rotate? Check what comes out after the patch tonight. If they happen to add a new mount that's an easy 8 figure payday assuming you don't want it for yourself. Otherwise new ornate gear, if there is some.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 18:48
|
|
|
Lot of weird changes this patch that will probably make the world first race go kinda quick this time, despite the fact that they usually aim to make the second tier a little harder than the first
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 19:09
|
|
|
Pollyanna posted:I still have a gold cert from Khloe. Would now be a good time to flip it, or wait until people start looking to buy ornates/the prizes rotate? Ideally you chat up your local datacenter raiding discord a couple weeks before to set up a trade, but MBing a new ornate piece for 20M+ should be doable the first day or two if you can't arrange a purchase. Prices generally drop fast, and its not clear what the savage delay will do.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 19:10
|
|
|
Well, time to hunker down since I won't be able to play FFXIV until next week and the internet is gonna be filled with spoilers this week. Hope you guys have fun with the patch! (And hopefully I can at least rush the raid to get the P8 drop before the weekly reset)
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 19:21
|
|
|
Alxprit posted:I've been setting up a Steam Deck and I'm looking forward to getting FFXIV working on it. Comfy portable MMO time... anyone else playing the game like that, and if so, any secret tips that the youtube tutorials won't tell me? Bind the right touchpad as another DPad and you can use DPad skills while moving.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 19:33
|
|
|
FuturePastNow posted:I saw a group greed the chains and wipe to Cerberus just a few weeks ago. I wonder if it’s actually possible to kill Cerberus before he mauls the raid even if you fail chains
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 19:42
|
|
|
MechaX posted:I wonder if it’s actually possible to kill Cerberus before he mauls the raid even if you fail chains No chance as the stacking damage up he gets is severe.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 19:52
|
|
|
MechaX posted:I wonder if it’s actually possible to kill Cerberus before he mauls the raid even if you fail chains I think he rapidly gets stacks of gently caress You in that state and it would take a genuinely heroic level of full raid DPS to get him close enough to death before the chains that you could finish him off during the soft enrage. Couldn't hurt to build a PF to see if you could do it though.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 19:54
|
|
|
i bet its possible if you stack tons of smns for rezzes. he can only one shot one person at a time.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 19:57
|
|
|
If you have a group coordinated enough to do that, they wouldn't fail the mechanic in the first place.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 20:04
|
|
|
I mean why even wait on the chains in the first place, it's not like the fight is hard enough to warrant trying to eke out every second of easy damage possible. Just chain him up and he'll be dead soon anyways
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 20:13
|
|
|
Awesome! posted:the only wipes i have had on cerberus in the last year (at least) have been when people hold the chain for "free dps" Who would be so dumb as to hold the chains to maximize dps in a loving crystal tower raid only to cause a wipe Definitely not me
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 20:20
|
|
|
Its me, the tank who spins the ahriman boss around like a top to try sniping healers 
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 20:21
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 26, 2024 06:16 |
|
|
You fool, if you keep angry man facing the same way the healers still end up walking into it
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2022 20:23
|
|