Nessus posted:I have heard this said a bunch of times but it feels really dubious to me, given that One Piece is way more loud and proud about demonstrating "the government loving SUCKS" while also featuring literal criminals as the protagonists, explicitly against the slave-holding tyranny of the World Government. And they run in the same magazine. I mean one piece also is set in a fantasy pirate seaplanet, whereas the Japanese government in MHA is basically just “the Japanese government from real life, but with superheroes”
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Perhaps this is unreasonably conspiratorial of me but it honestly feels like hori had much more interesting ideas he wanted to explore and someone from editorial stopped in to tell him hey there bucko, you should tamp down that lightweight ideological questioning, we don’t want the 12 year olds in the audience to get any ideas here I think the simpler idea would be that Hori was giving all this lip service to set up that he had big ideas for where to take his characters, but in the end he couldn't figure out a satisfying follow-through, so he just gave up and started falling back on old ideas. AFO being the villain now feels like a cop to the audience pressure of "get rid of the nonthreatening but dynamic villain for the actually threatening but unsophisticated villain", not really an editorial demand, since editorial would be more along the vein of everything involving Bakugo, Hawks and Dabi.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:I mean one piece also is set in a fantasy pirate seaplanet, whereas the Japanese government in MHA is basically just “the Japanese government from real life, but with superheroes” Like everything we've seen suggests to me more that Horikoshi was told "Hey wrap it up in 100 chapters. If you really need it we can make that 125?" when his plans would have probably gone a lot longer than that. Maybe it's going to be like Battle Angel and there's going to be My Hero Academia: Leg Day in a few years, that goes for 20 volumes and lets Mirko say "gently caress."
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Or Hori is dying like most mangaka and is trying to survive to the end.
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Remembing those incredibly unfinished chapters and I wouldn't be surprised...
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Yeah, It was much more interesting when AfO was seen as this relic of an older world, more or less accepting his defeat until he realizes he has a final chance to deliver a final gently caress you. That would be way better. Hell, the final battle could've been set up with AFO passing on the true actual AFO quirk to Shiggy.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:I mean one piece also is set in a fantasy pirate seaplanet, whereas the Japanese government in MHA is basically just “the Japanese government from real life, but with superheroes” The Japanese government in chainsaw man, which is "the Japanese government from real life, but with demons" has made a contract that literally kills its own citizens to maintain its place in the global demon arms race. If there's editorial interference, it's significantly more likely to have compressed timelines than changed content for political reasons. Also there's nothing to suggest this isn't just the story Hori wanted to tell, and he's just not that artful at it.
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Nessus posted:I have heard this said a bunch of times but it feels really dubious to me, given that One Piece is way more loud and proud about demonstrating "the government loving SUCKS" while also featuring literal criminals as the protagonists, explicitly against the slave-holding tyranny of the World Government. Feeling like these two things might have something to do with each other.
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Woozie66 posted:That would be way better. Hell, the final battle could've been set up with AFO passing on the true actual AFO quirk to Shiggy. The dumbest part is that he did give Shiggy the original AFO quirk (before Kamino), the one that AFO has now is an artificial copy.
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Staltran posted:The dumbest part is that he did give Shiggy the original AFO quirk (before Kamino), the one that AFO has now is an artificial copy. Oh god I forgot
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Aug 22, 2022 19:53
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That reveal that Shiggy has the original AFO was such a good character beat too. Then we find out that it was just so AFO could steal his body. Bleh.
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Woozie66 posted:"Society is filled with fake heroes, and we want to purge all the selfish people who pretend to care about others." No, the reasoning would go like this: "The good heroes, by protecting the bad heroes, are misguidedly protecting the system that produces those bad heroes. So even if they might be individually noble, they must still be defeated."
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The only bad heroes are Hawks and Nagant tho. (Endeavor is a bad person, but a good hero)
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Stain's definition of a "good hero" is a person who spends 23 hours a day fighting crime and the remaining hour sitting naked on top of a pillar.
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Funky Valentine posted:Stain's definition of a "good hero" is a person who spends 23 hours a day fighting crime and the remaining hour sitting naked on top of a pillar. or Bakugo as of current chapters
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Bakugo had a lot of heart. Too bad he lost it.
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Kanos posted:"Pinning all of our hopes on one superpowered demigod to solve all of our problems was hosed up and wrong, we should be working together to fill All Might's shoes." Sucks that there's no character with the morals of J Jonah Jameson in here. We need someone seeing this still going 'Man, gently caress heroes I hope AFO wins.'
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FireWorksWell posted:Bakugo had a lot of heart. He could be a little annoying at times, but I kind of like how he wore his heart on his sleeve.
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Can't help but feel like something like Jujutsu Kaisen has a pretty strong inherent advantage when it comes to villains. They're just loving evil, so of course they do evil poo poo, and the heroes don't really need to worry about the ethics of fighting them to the death. A series with human villains like MHA has the potential to be more interesting, but it's much harder to write.
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the Curses in jjk are literally ontologically compelled to be evil and some of them have still had more pathos than whatever the hell is going on with AFOgaraki lately
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fair enough.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Spoiler Can we not do spoilers for other manga in this thread?
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I suggest posting Naruto spoilers instead. No one cares about those.
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The longer this goes on the more appreciation I have for Naruto's last arcs
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FireWorksWell posted:The longer this goes on the more appreciation I have for Naruto's last arcs I doubt this poo poo is going to go for like five years, but on the other hand there were at least cool/funny parts like Night Guy and the other dead zombie kages largely being weirdo goofballs.
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It was all downhill after the Clamkage
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Last Celebration posted:Night Guy This is one of the moments I had in mind. Poor Bakugo couldn't even come close and Shigaraki's not using any Quirks yet. Despite the mutation thing
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Last Celebration posted:I doubt this poo poo is going to go for like five years, but on the other hand there were at least cool/funny parts like Night Guy and the other dead zombie kages largely being weirdo goofballs. I like the one guy telling everyone what attacks he's using so they can dodge and being angry that they still can't see through his complicated skills. Also Night Guy.
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:I like the one guy telling everyone what attacks he's using so they can dodge and being angry that they still can't see through his complicated skills. Honestly I was thinking specifically of that guy when I said “funny” parts, I can’t remember which Kage he was but he made me appreciate how Kishimoto can just design some funny goofballs on a whim when he really wants to.
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Last Celebration posted:Honestly I was thinking specifically of that guy when I said “funny” parts, I can’t remember which Kage he was but he made me appreciate how Kishimoto can just design some funny goofballs on a whim when he really wants to. Clamkage as mentioned earlier. I'm pretty sure he was a Mizukage. Some fantastic eyebrows. Oh yeah speaking of funny, wasn't there a quick panel that showed Tenten knocked herself unconscious after trying those powerful chakra tools from the brothers?
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FireWorksWell posted:Clamkage as mentioned earlier. I'm pretty sure he was a Mizukage. Some fantastic eyebrows. She was just about to contribute to the plot with one of the Sage's weapons when the Infinite Tsukiyomi hit, yes
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oh jay posted:I suggest posting Naruto spoilers instead. No one cares about those. gently caress
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oh jay posted:I suggest posting Naruto spoilers instead. No one cares about those. Remember when Madara said "Limbo" and instantly defeated all nine Tailed Beasts? And remember how that was later explained by saying he created an invisible clone of himself that punched out all the Tailed Beasts?
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Seeing some vague spoilers on Twitter and I just want to say that if they're true, this is the funniest thing that's ever happened in this manga.
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oh jay posted:I suggest posting Naruto spoilers instead. No one cares about those. lmao
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CuwiKhons posted:Seeing some vague spoilers on Twitter and I just want to say that if they're true, this is the funniest thing that's ever happened in this manga. The leaks usually are out by Thursday, including pictures, so you're probably getting accurate info.
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CuwiKhons posted:Seeing some vague spoilers on Twitter and I just want to say that if they're true, this is the funniest thing that's ever happened in this manga. I second this opinion
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CuwiKhons posted:Seeing some vague spoilers on Twitter and I just want to say that if they're true, this is the funniest thing that's ever happened in this manga. 
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lol, lmao
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I just looked and yeah it's actually seriously stupid
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