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Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Trainee PornStar posted:

They used to sell 'liquid rear end' on amazon, they still might but I cant be arsed to check.

I bought some & holy gently caress! just smelling the inside of the lid makes you want to throw up, its like a rotten bin lorry mixed with baby poo poo.

Yup, used to handle that stuff all the time. The bottle comes in a bigger box with the words "LIQUID rear end" in blocky letters. No advertising on it or anything, super plain. They just know what they're selling and making sure it survives the trip (unlike so many other Amazon vendors).

Never had one of those bottles burst on me but I've seen what happens when a concentrated deer piss bottle broke and got everywhere. I imagine Liquid rear end is probably 10x as bad, and the concentrated urine was bad enough to shut down a section of the department for the rest of the shift.

For a while someone was selling farting pigs. Had a belly button that stuck out of the packaging for you to try. I got one, pressed it a few times and was disappointed it made no noise. Turned out it was a stinky toy. One whiff of that and I basically slammed it in the box in an attempt to make the smell go away.

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Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Lazyfire posted:


Then the guy coordinating my wife and my move for her job suggested, multiple times in one email, I was planning to divorce her and claim spousal support before he realized I was responding from a company account as well.

What the gently caress?

What's the context of this? Just some dude trying to gaslight your wife into thinking you're going to dump her? Why the gently caress would someone do this?

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Gnossiennes posted:

i've never heard of an all hands meeting that was anything but being talked at for an hour, wtf

and who would even notice if you're there or not

HR takes attendance at our all-hands. It's a pretty easy function in Teams (which we unfortunately use), it just poops out a spreadsheet with all the attendees. Sometimes it gets wonky with cell phone call-ins, but those are all high level execs etc. who aren't going to get hassled for not showing up. I suspect other programs have a similar functionality.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Cyrano4747 posted:

HR takes attendance at our all-hands. It's a pretty easy function in Teams (which we unfortunately use), it just poops out a spreadsheet with all the attendees. Sometimes it gets wonky with cell phone call-ins, but those are all high level execs etc. who aren't going to get hassled for not showing up. I suspect other programs have a similar functionality.

My working life got much easier once I became confident just skipping meetings and telling people "sorry, I have work I need to do".
Works a pretty high percentage of the time, because most of my bosses have been cowards.

Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

Cyrano4747 posted:

What the gently caress?

What's the context of this? Just some dude trying to gaslight your wife into thinking you're going to dump her? Why the gently caress would someone do this?

He mistakenly believed I was a house husband because I work from home full time and am coordinating the move while my wife is traveling to the area we're moving to two weeks a month already. I think because she's at the second highest tier of movement benefits there was an assumption she had a career while I stayed home with our non-existent children. My wife responded to him with a "My husband works for the company as well, so would we really need to get me added to the title if he's also moving?" and suddenly replies to me were a lot more professional.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Lazyfire posted:

He mistakenly believed I was a house husband because I work from home full time and am coordinating the move while my wife is traveling to the area we're moving to two weeks a month already. I think because she's at the second highest tier of movement benefits there was an assumption she had a career while I stayed home with our non-existent children. My wife responded to him with a "My husband works for the company as well, so would we really need to get me added to the title if he's also moving?" and suddenly replies to me were a lot more professional.

So a weird, gender-flipped version of the old bullshit about housewives being gold diggers just out for that precious alimony?

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

JUST MAKING CHILI posted:

All hands zoom meeting had a q&a section the moderators kept reminding everyone to post questions in, instead of the chat. They disabled anonymous questions after the last meeting.

We had an all hands livestream hosted via YouTube and it was amusing when afterwards some folk were irately trying to guess what handsome, charming bandit had clicked “dislike.”

Cyrano4747 posted:

HR takes attendance at our all-hands. It's a pretty easy function in Teams (which we unfortunately use), it just poops out a spreadsheet with all the attendees. Sometimes it gets wonky with cell phone call-ins, but those are all high level execs etc. who aren't going to get hassled for not showing up. I suspect other programs have a similar functionality.

I’m so thankful our communications dept doesn’t know how to do that and is content with posting a livestream link that is ostensibly mandatory for an hour each week but is a waste of time, so I watch the first five minutes as that’s when they announce anything important (usually nothing) and then I sneakily close the window and do work.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer

JUST MAKING CHILI posted:

They disabled anonymous questions after the last meeting.

Our place tried to do this until someone asked them why they were deliberately discriminating against people with social anxiety and if they were just trying to avoid honest questions from people in difficult management/team/co-worker situations that weren't being addressed.

CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

⚡POWER⚡

goatface posted:

Our place tried to do this until someone asked them why they were deliberately discriminating against people with social anxiety and if they were just trying to avoid honest questions from people in difficult management/team/co-worker situations that weren't being addressed.

This person owns.

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ł ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)

Lazyfire posted:

He mistakenly believed I was a house husband because I work from home full time and am coordinating the move while my wife is traveling to the area we're moving to two weeks a month already. I think because she's at the second highest tier of movement benefits there was an assumption she had a career while I stayed home with our non-existent children. My wife responded to him with a "My husband works for the company as well, so would we really need to get me added to the title if he's also moving?" and suddenly replies to me were a lot more professional.

you're a bigger man than me if you're not trying to get HR to discipline that horseshit, not because you're offended or anything, but being that unprofessional about your speech at work absolutely deserves some level of consequences and a warning to never talk to people like that in a professional environment ever again

MrQwerty fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Aug 24, 2022

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

goatface posted:

Our place tried to do this until someone asked them why they were deliberately discriminating against people with social anxiety and if they were just trying to avoid honest questions from people in difficult management/team/co-worker situations that weren't being addressed.

Lol nice. We had one year where they got mad when people asked why they had promised to follow up with a survey that identified a lot of issues, then pivoted to pretending the survey never happened. Subsequent years they’ve complained about poor survey participation.

satanic splash-back
Jan 28, 2009

I appreciate that my company really wants to hear from us in their non-anonymous survey while simultaneously ignoring the few questions everyone asks.

It's a nice that so many companies want to create these situations so we, the employees, have a shared-across-corporations bonding.

ziasquinn
Jan 1, 2006

Fallen Rib
boss made an big hubbub about giving everyone real COL increases in August about 2 months ago. After agonizing research, apparently, he has decreed everyone gets 40 cents more. lmfao.

Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

Cyrano4747 posted:

So a weird, gender-flipped version of the old bullshit about housewives being gold diggers just out for that precious alimony?

Something like that, it seems. On one hand it was kind of a progressive assumption, but a really weird attempt at a joke that could have just been a normal interaction.


MrQwerty posted:

you're a bigger man than me if you're not trying to get HR to discipline that horseshit, not because you're offended or anything, but being that unprofessional about your speech at work absolutely deserves some level of consequences and a warning to never talk to people like that in a professional environment ever again

My options there are limited either way, this is an outside firm our company works with to handle these sorts of moves as we send people all over the world for jobs and rotational assignments. The one thing I'll say is that they are fast and already have both mortgage companies they work with in the area we're going to in contact with my wife about getting pre-approved. Before the end of the day yesterday the guy had already started pulling data on our house and kicked off the title change process and wants to talk about when we can get this place listed as soon as possible. I just want to get this move done and don't want to gently caress around with getting a new rep because he made a dumb assumption.

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!
https://twitter.com/emollick/status/1562143652180365323?s=21&t=Ef_y56eUogcYwgeVKYh20A

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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Just lol at any corporate song that isn't some variation of the lotr orc cartoon dirge.

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ł ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)

Outrail posted:

Just lol at any corporate song that isn't some variation of the lotr orc cartoon dirge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y30LAj502mY

Takes No Damage
Nov 20, 2004

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.


Grimey Drawer

Sywert of Thieves posted:

I keep missing the all-hands meetings (which are basically "is everyone doing ok? Alright cool bye" at this point) because we use Skype. And I muted the group with all employees in it because it gets flooded with birthday wishes nearly every day, making it distracting and useless.

So far I don't think I've missed anything important.

I work afternoons and my company's all-hands are always scheduled before my shift begins. I never even considered attending one and would laugh at the suggestion. In Distracting & Useless news: I don't know how or why this started, but everyone in my group has begun spamming our Teams chat announcing when they are going on lunch. Every person. Every day. I just. Don't. Care.

Atopian posted:

So last year a series of poor management decisions led to a bunch of people quitting, and it hasn't been possible to replace most of them by recruitment. Most of the people they *have* been able to recruit are underexperienced or underqualified or both.

I am only sticking around for the remainder of my current contract, and they need me urgently, so I have no fear of firing.

A manager who wasn't involved in last year's clusterfuck has asked me for a detailed explanation of it.

What are the reasons that I should not do this? Like, it seems like it can't harm me from my initial thoughts, but I don't want to become the Stupid poo poo at work.

As long as you're both internal it sounds OK, maybe just do it verbally so there isn't a paper trail of you talking poo poo with your name at the bottom. If they do want something in writing, keep it as bland and professional as possible.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
If you want to, it shouldn't hurt. Might make life better and easier for some people in the future.

Put everything factual in the most straightforward way you can, couch all opinion statements in some safety wrappers of business speak.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
I think I'm going to head off to lunch around noon today

Salami Surgeon
Jan 21, 2001

Don't close. Don't close.


Nap Ghost
I'm out to lunch

toplitzin
Jun 13, 2003


I'm finishing my lunch up now.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
I thought I was done with lunch, but it's coming back up just now.

blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).
At lunch now. 20-30 minutes later than usual, had to take a client escalation (he was actually remarkably easy to work with and we came up with a reasonable solution).

ChickenDoodle
Oct 22, 2020

I have lunch after my lunch. :smug:

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




wa27
Jan 15, 2007

Was it somebody in this thread that said their workplace hosted an active shooter drill that involved fake shooters and dead bodies?

https://omaha.com/news/local/crime-...twitter_OWHnews

quote:

On the second floor of the building, Amanda Driver, 24, said she knew training was scheduled that day for the on-site classroom and believed it would be a speaker and a PowerPoint presentation. An earlier email made no mention of actors simulating a gunman or his victims.

Then she heard gunshots. “Driver stated she heard Denise Bartels yell her name, which startled her, and she began running toward the north (exit) door,” Mois wrote. There, “she observed a female down on the ground and believed it was a dead coworker.

“Driver stated she ran away from the building harder than she has ever run before because she believed she was about to be shot.”

In another department, one supervisor gathered three women in the cafeteria for what they thought was going to be a security presentation. They sat there for about 45 minutes, waiting for it to begin — no one told them that it was going to be an active-shooter drill.

Then Gloria Kern heard a noise she thought was gunshots — and saw her colleague, Sheila Garland, jump and run out of the room. As they fled, Kern said she saw a gunman “banging on the windows with the gun.”

“Kern said she saw the individual ‘holding the gun then shoot at the window,’” Mois wrote.

Garland told police that she was in a conference room with Kern when she saw a man in “dark colored clothing with a dark colored hoodie” walking by, firing a gun in the air. She said she was “absolutely in shock.”

Garland “stated specifically that she did not believe that any training that would be put on would involve someone firing a gun.”

When they made it outside, they saw a female on the ground with blood on her. Kern believed it was a co-worker. Garland was overcome at the sight.

Soon after, someone approached Garland and told her that she “needed to calm down.” “This was not real,” the person said, according to police.

edit: this is the goon I was thinking of. Still applies to this thread though.

wa27 fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Aug 24, 2022

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

wa27 posted:

Was it somebody in this thread that said their workplace hosted an active shooter drill that involved fake shooters and dead bodies?

https://omaha.com/news/local/crime-...twitter_OWHnews

edit: this is the goon I was thinking of. Still applies to this thread though.

I'm sorry but this entire article is wild and needs to be read


quote:

Omaha charity workers recount terror of 'shooter' firing gun; only bosses knew it was a drill
What they didn’t know: Their bosses had approved the “drill” — hiring the gunman who, in turn, brought along the “victims” to play dead after he fired off several blank rounds.

Now, the pretend gunman, who at the time described himself to police as an Offutt Air Force Base “citizen police officer,” is in jail — facing five charges of terroristic threats and one charge of weapon use.



John Channels, 27, also is awaiting trial on separate felonies alleging he sexually assaulted a girl and produced child pornography.


quote:

Catholic Charities’ compliance coordinator, Carrie Walter, and Security Director Mike Welna agreed on April 28 to pay Channels $2,500 to conduct the training. Walter stated the idea of conducting an “active shooter” training “had been discussed for some time ... due to having the new facility open ... which contained a domestic violence shelter.



quote:

“Walter stated that Channels planned to start by shooting victims outside of the office windows and doors to be viewed by employees, then make his way through the building (with keys provided by staff) hoping to cause employees to flee from the building or hide,” Mois wrote. “Walter stated Channels specifically stated he did not want the Catholic Charities staff to be informed that the scenario was only a drill and wanted to feel as though they were in danger.”

...

Walter stated she and other staff were “somewhat uncomfortable with the idea of not fully notifying the staff but trusted Channels’ expertise and counted on his statements that (authorities) would be involved.”


quote:

She then heard three gunshots behind her. She ran as fast as she could toward a retaining wall, with a dumpster several feet below. Lopez tried to jump into the dumpster to hide. She landed outside the dumpster and curled into the fetal position. Fearing she would be found and killed, Lopez then ran about three blocks to a fast-food restaurant to hide inside.

When she later called her bosses to tell her she was OK, they informed her the events were “part of a scheduled training.”

nbd regularly scheduled fake murder I don't know why you're so upset

quote:

Employees weren’t the only ones in the dark. Authorities say they weren’t notified of the drill. Dispatchers had no idea that several 911 calls of an active shooter were part of a scheme. And arriving Omaha police officers had no idea what they were encountering. One Omaha police officer had his hand on his gun as he approached co-workers, unsure who the shooter was.

Channels described himself then as an “Offutt Citizen Police Officer.” It is not clear what that title means; Offutt representatives couldn’t be reached Tuesday.

They found a sovcit with a tiny face, that's what it means


quote:

Kleine said it’s also hard to imagine what was going through Channels’ mind: Was this some kind of video game cosplay he found exciting? Channels operates the Exousia Protection Agency that, according to its social media posts, specializes in home security and firearms training.

...

Authorities said Channels asked employees after the training whether they had guns for protection; he also shared a business card encouraging them to pay for his firearms training class.


quote:

“Lopez stated specifically that she believed the victim was a Catholic Charities employee who had been killed,” Mois wrote. “She believed she was involved in a real shooting event with real victims.”

Kern, too. The Omaha woman, who is in her late 60s, told police that she felt helpless as she fled. Her physical state would only get her “so far,” she said.

“I thought, ‘This is it, I’m done.’”

Very normal and cool situation we live in, about the only good thing here is that the guy actually got arrested and charged.

TheSpartacus
Oct 30, 2010
HEY GUYS I'VE FLOWN HELICOPTERS IN THIS GAME BEFORE AND I AM AN EXPERT. ALSO, HOW DO I START THE ENGINE?

Volmarias posted:

I'm sorry but this entire article is wild and needs to be read







nbd regularly scheduled fake murder I don't know why you're so upset

They found a sovcit with a tiny face, that's what it means



Very normal and cool situation we live in, about the only good thing here is that the guy actually got arrested and charged.

Lol sue the company for causing your new PTSD. This is so stupid and reprehensible. Late stage capitalist terrorism is still terrorism guys.

Prince Reggie K
Feb 12, 2007

I've been denied all the best Ultra-Sex.
The only way this could have been funnier / more tragic is if one of the employees had a gun and shot back.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Prince Reggie K posted:

The only way this could have been funnier / more tragic is if one of the employees had a gun and shot back.

What if management was caught in the crossfire?

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




Outrail posted:

What if management was caught in the crossfire?

First of all, promoted

Plucky Brit
Nov 7, 2009

Swing low, sweet chariot

Prince Reggie K posted:

The only way this could have been funnier / more tragic is if one of the employees had a gun and shot back.
UK reporting (and not a good newspaper), but I came across an active shooter training course for teachers. The teacher shot the gunman... and the other teacher who was trying to kill the gunman.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/25/gun-school-how-teachers-us-armed-country-reels-uvalde/

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Plucky Brit posted:

UK reporting (and not a good newspaper), but I came across an active shooter training course for teachers. The teacher shot the gunman... and the other teacher who was trying to kill the gunman.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/25/gun-school-how-teachers-us-armed-country-reels-uvalde/

Kudos to this teacher who saw an opportunity to rid themselves of an annoying coworker and took it.

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

Plucky Brit posted:

UK reporting (and not a good newspaper), but I came across an active shooter training course for teachers. The teacher shot the gunman... and the other teacher who was trying to kill the gunman.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/25/gun-school-how-teachers-us-armed-country-reels-uvalde/

When I was a security consultant, my focus was schools. And I can not tell you the level of rage this fills me with. The parents want everyone else to deal with this, but letting go of their own loving murder fantasies is a step too loving far. gently caress, better their kids be traumatized with active shooter drills. Better to promote dumb gently caress products like backpacks with trauma plates. Or extremely non-code compliant door stops, as if the school door building code changes after Columbine aren't a gently caress ton safer when your kid does something loving stupid in the chem lab and freaks out when it goes wrong. It's comforting he died from loving up making meth not an active shooter. A shame the Fire and EMT couldn't get to him because the door was barricaded. Because that's better than a door with a key lock on both sides.

Take underpaid, over worked teachers and demand we give them guns. We can't find money for textbooks, or teacher pay raises. But that's okay because we'll just mandate the teachers spend their own money on it. So now some shooting happens, some teacher tries to do the heroic thing, and because the universe loves gently caress you, puts a bullet right in a student's skull. Was that student an active shooter? Nope, they were just seeking safety. But hey, what's losing another teacher, it's just loving guilt.

I attended PTA meetings where parents would be getting me to try to push for millions in bonds to rebuild schools to be more "secure" and by secure I mean supermax for six year olds. Trying to get me to push some wackjob poo poo they saw on the internet that won't work. Or more cops in school. Which would end quickly if they ever met a school resource officer. Protip, it's a job you get by not being enough of a gently caress up to be fired but also being enough of a fuckup that hitting on middle school girls is your idea of a good decision. But pick the most tepid gun control proposal and bring it up. Can't be done. Too expensive. A white person might have some inconvenience. I might not get my fantasy of showing how badass I am. You're wearing loving New Balances Frank. You aren't a badass. You never were a badasss. No, you weren't almost a SEAL who was stopped by shin splints. The recruiter who came to your high school, looked at you and said no.

And the parents ask you what places like Sandy Hook did wrong. Guess what? Not a drat thing. It's your best case scenario. They had done a recent active shooter drill. The shooter was spotted in the parking lot. The police response time was amazing. They were on site in two minutes. In the building in six. I grew up in rural Connecticut, that fast a response is insane. There isn't a lot I could have brought to the table. Bullet resistant glass is about it. And do you have any idea how expensive fitting a school with glass that is bullet resistant to rifle rounds? Then think in terms of district size.

Sorry. This just really loving pisses me off.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Thomamelas posted:

When I was a security consultant, my focus was schools. And I can not tell you the level of rage this fills me with. The parents want everyone else to deal with this, but letting go of their own loving murder fantasies is a step too loving far. gently caress, better their kids be traumatized with active shooter drills. Better to promote dumb gently caress products like backpacks with trauma plates. Or extremely non-code compliant door stops, as if the school door building code changes after Columbine aren't a gently caress ton safer when your kid does something loving stupid in the chem lab and freaks out when it goes wrong. It's comforting he died from loving up making meth not an active shooter. A shame the Fire and EMT couldn't get to him because the door was barricaded. Because that's better than a door with a key lock on both sides.

Take underpaid, over worked teachers and demand we give them guns. We can't find money for textbooks, or teacher pay raises. But that's okay because we'll just mandate the teachers spend their own money on it. So now some shooting happens, some teacher tries to do the heroic thing, and because the universe loves gently caress you, puts a bullet right in a student's skull. Was that student an active shooter? Nope, they were just seeking safety. But hey, what's losing another teacher, it's just loving guilt.

I attended PTA meetings where parents would be getting me to try to push for millions in bonds to rebuild schools to be more "secure" and by secure I mean supermax for six year olds. Trying to get me to push some wackjob poo poo they saw on the internet that won't work. Or more cops in school. Which would end quickly if they ever met a school resource officer. Protip, it's a job you get by not being enough of a gently caress up to be fired but also being enough of a fuckup that hitting on middle school girls is your idea of a good decision. But pick the most tepid gun control proposal and bring it up. Can't be done. Too expensive. A white person might have some inconvenience. I might not get my fantasy of showing how badass I am. You're wearing loving New Balances Frank. You aren't a badass. You never were a badasss. No, you weren't almost a SEAL who was stopped by shin splints. The recruiter who came to your high school, looked at you and said no.

And the parents ask you what places like Sandy Hook did wrong. Guess what? Not a drat thing. It's your best case scenario. They had done a recent active shooter drill. The shooter was spotted in the parking lot. The police response time was amazing. They were on site in two minutes. In the building in six. I grew up in rural Connecticut, that fast a response is insane. There isn't a lot I could have brought to the table. Bullet resistant glass is about it. And do you have any idea how expensive fitting a school with glass that is bullet resistant to rifle rounds? Then think in terms of district size.

Sorry. This just really loving pisses me off.

But did your district consider arming the children? :thunk:

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

McGavin posted:

Kudos to this teacher who saw an opportunity to rid themselves of an annoying coworker and took it.

Never returned my stapler.
*Spits on corpse*

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Thomamelas posted:

And the parents ask you what places like Sandy Hook did wrong. Guess what? Not a drat thing. It's your best case scenario. They had done a recent active shooter drill. The shooter was spotted in the parking lot. The police response time was amazing. They were on site in two minutes. In the building in six. I grew up in rural Connecticut, that fast a response is insane. There isn't a lot I could have brought to the table. Bullet resistant glass is about it. And do you have any idea how expensive fitting a school with glass that is bullet resistant to rifle rounds? Then think in terms of district size.

Sorry. This just really loving pisses me off.

The whole thing was interesting, but that particularly so. Describing the limits of site preparation.

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

Atopian posted:

The whole thing was interesting, but that particularly so. Describing the limits of site preparation.

All of security is about two things. Buying time, or trying to convince the other side that this space is too difficult to gently caress with. You use layered approaches, and different things for different threats. But there is no defensive 'I win!' button. And you have limits before what you do renders the location unfit for purpose or you run out of money. Or you make the place unsafe. As much as you plan, the other side can go bigger. I can make it so you can't break down a door with your body. But if someone wants to drive a bulldozer through it, there are limits to what I can do.

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COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

Imagining a future when more children are locked inside school to burn alive in America instead of Saudi.

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