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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:oh do people mistake this thread as evidence of the people posting in it being invested in the democrat party? like I'm going to be personally gutted if the Democrats keep the house and expand their margin in the Senate? is that what the people who hate read this thread think? if by some miracle the democrat party does manage to keep the house and expand congress then it will just be more opportunities to poo poo on them and make fun of them for being worthless dumbasses who suck at everything either way i'm going to poo poo on them and laugh at them it don't matter nonna this matters
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spacemang_spliff posted:if by some miracle the democrat party does manage to keep the house and expand congress then it will just be more opportunities to poo poo on them and make fun of them for being worthless dumbasses who suck at everything They'll just find new and interesting ways to beg us for money and votes
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Iron Crowned posted:They'll just find new and interesting ways to beg us for money and votes Hi Iron Crowned, it's Bernie, respectfully asking if you will split a $20 contribution between Ilhan Omar, Cori Bush, Becca Balint, and our campaign. Here's why: In the midst of massive income and wealth inequality, a global pandemic, and the existential threat of climate change - it has never been more important to elect candidates who will fight for a strong, progressive agenda. We need to elect more candidates who will take on corporate greed, authoritarianism, and bigotry and who are prepared to fight for justice. And in order to do that, we must come together to take on the big-money interests that have so much political and economic power in our country. Ilhan, Cori, and Becca are all running for Congress to create a government that works for ALL of our people, not just those at the top. They are prepared to challenge the status quo, and today they are counting on the support of our movement. Please split a $20 contribution between Ilhan Omar, Cori Bush, Becca Balint, and our campaign's work organizing the progressive movement nationwide. Here's the link: https://bernie.to/9UAbE https://m.twil.io/KGwAyL7Xp5
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Personally I'm interested in seeing who the new 2 joe manchins are after the dems expand their hold on the Senate.
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Retromancer posted:Personally I'm interested in seeing who the new 2 joe manchins are after the dems expand their hold on the Senate. Probably someone already in. Bennet or Duckworth. Duckworth also has all the perfect shields for any left challenger.
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a fatguy baldspot posted:which republicans are encouraging their followers to murder your friends? i dont think its a stretch to draw a line from what started as an entirely manufactured moral panic over drag queens reading stories at libraries, to accusing schools of “grooming” - for this to increase the likelihood of violence to especially vulnerable queer people, and stoking some of their base to go more deranged on lgbtq stuff. i also doubt republicans would be playing from a different playbook on monkeypox. this isnt enough to support the democrats (for something better to happen, they must die) but it would be silly to deny that republican leadership isn’t uniquely bad in this particular area of social liberalism
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speaking of drag queens i saw some vote blue no matter who people posting “don’t vote for desantis, he looks like a drag queen” memes on my facebook feed today
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spacemang_spliff posted:if by some miracle the democrat party does manage to keep the house and expand congress then it will just be more opportunities to poo poo on them and make fun of them for being worthless dumbasses who suck at everything 
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fart simpson posted:speaking of drag queens i saw some vote blue no matter who people posting “don’t vote for desantis, he looks like a drag queen” memes on my facebook feed today
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I don't know what people who hate read this thread thinks. I thought dems winning despite their attempts to lose just like trump, this thread's motto and the image macro kind of matched and was funny.
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Retromancer posted:The funniest outcome is the senate parliamentarian becoming the most powerful government official overnight. This occurs whenever the democrats take the senate, hth
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Halloween Jack posted:Boomer Democrats are an unstoppable force. Nothing can stand in their way when they focus on their goals: failing, losing, and alienating everyone under 50. Good then we can be free of the Demon Rats.
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THS2 posted:i dont think its a stretch to draw a line from what started as an entirely manufactured moral panic over drag queens reading stories at libraries, to accusing schools of “grooming” - for this to increase the likelihood of violence to especially vulnerable queer people, and stoking some of their base to go more deranged on lgbtq stuff. i also doubt republicans would be playing from a different playbook on monkeypox. this isnt enough to support the democrats (for something better to happen, they must die) but it would be silly to deny that republican leadership isn’t uniquely bad in this particular area of social liberalism The Democrats blamed trans people for Roe getting overturned. If we keep giving them power they'll do the pogroms before Republicans get the chance.
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Retromancer posted:Personally I'm interested in seeing who the new 2 joe manchins are after the dems expand their hold on the Senate. coons 100%, but there's a good list floating around somewhere that i can't find of all the senators who love spending time the most on joe manchin's yacht
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Retromancer posted:The Democrats blamed trans people for Roe getting overturned. If we keep giving them power they'll do the pogroms before Republicans get the chance. probably a few blamed trans people?? but most of them are cynically using roe as a cudgel to beat the republicans with, when it was the democrats fault that this was never codified (and they surrendered 2 pro-row supreme court slots to deranged catholics without a fight). i dont see “the trans did this” at the top of democratic messaging tbh im obviously not here to defend the democrats, though, so have whatever reason you want to see them destroyed be what feels best to you
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Retromancer posted:The Democrats blamed trans people for Roe getting overturned. If we keep giving them power they'll do the pogroms before Republicans get the chance. they’ll probably sabotage the dem pogroms so they can do their own
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Zvahl posted:coons 100%, but there's a good list floating around somewhere that i can't find of all the senators who love spending time the most on joe manchin's yacht Hassan, Shaheen, Bennet, Hickenlooper, Tester, take ur pick
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THS2 posted:probably a few blamed trans people?? but most of them are cynically using roe as a cudgel to beat the republicans with, when it was the democrats fault that this was never codified (and they surrendered 2 pro-row supreme court slots to deranged catholics without a fight). i dont see “the trans did this” at the top of democratic messaging tbh The NYT op-ed page is a peek into the mind of the voter who thinks the Democrats are good. in the immediate aftermath of the decision we saw 3 separate op-eds saying that it happened because we made evangelicals too mad with our weird pronouns.
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lol the framing https://twitter.com/AyannaPressley/...ingawful.com%2F * ** *** * some restrictions apply ** your debt may not actually be canceled *** loan repayments restart again in 2 weeks ex post facho has issued a correction as of 18:49 on Aug 24, 2022 |
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I think the cool liberal Democratic brand of corporate oligarchy is better than the stodgy old Republican brand of corporate oligarchy.
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ex post facho posted:lol the framing Wrt to *** I think it's actually being extended again until January
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unwantedplatypus posted:I think the cool liberal Democratic brand of corporate oligarchy is better than the stodgy old Republican brand of corporate oligarchy. the jackbooted secret police thugs wearing rainbow patches makes me feel like the arc of the moral universe bends towards justice
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christmas boots posted:Wrt to *** I think it's actually being extended again until January Yeah looks like December 30th is the new deadline
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Cleared my loans out I think, which is nice. I hate that I have to give Biden kudos, but sure, I'll do it just this once for $20k.
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ex post facho posted:I will actually hand it to the dems for the good provisions in this Yeah, I was making GBS threads on this for days when it leaked but the leak didn’t bring up the interest freeze which is actually legit helpful Congrats to the Dems for doing a single legit good thing for me, only took them two years with complete power and total control (4 counting both administrations with rapist Joe in them). They will be destroyed in November, but I’ll have one of my two loans done by then 
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LastInLine posted:I won't deny that the republicans, especially in the post-Trump era, have a political project and social movement to degrade the civil rights of minorities of every stripe across the board. I will argue that voting for democrats does nothing to stop its advance because the democrats (and specifically liberals) do not have a political project or social movement to counter it. They don't have a competing vision for how things should be and a path to get there. As such they are not a countervailing force against the conservative project but at best a pause button of decreasing efficacy. i think one problem is that "the vote" becomes the be-all-end-all horizon of political activity (liberalism) rather than just using it as one tool. it being the end-all is a talisman like you said, a magic charm for the liberals to cast away the evil. but i think if the choice is between a lion eating your face and a pause button to temporarily slow down the lion from eating your face, you should hit the pause button because that's still the rational thing to do in the circumstances even when everything you just said is true at the same time. also it doesn't take much effort. BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 21:51 on Aug 24, 2022 |
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christmas boots posted:The internal polls for the midterms must be really bad if they're offering material aid. They're making a play to keep the House I think
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:oh do people mistake this thread as evidence of the people posting in it being invested in the democrat party? like I'm going to be personally gutted if the Democrats keep the house and expand their margin in the Senate? is that what the people who hate read this thread think? I assume those people view American electoral politics through the lens of there only being a dichotomy and that they think that we, by virtue of chronicling the democratic party as an ineffectual entity doomed to failure, are somehow "cheering for the other side" and that by staking a position early that the midterms aren't looking good for them we have personal stakes in that coming to fruition. As ex post facho stated, I look at this thread as more a discussion on the halfhearted political actions that the dems take in an attempt to brand themselves as anything other than the fundraising entity they are and how that relates to them perpetually losing more and more ground among an electorate and citizenry that ever more desperately seeks a political alternative to the gop. I think most of us regulars itt are invested mostly in the dems being increasingly seen as an ineffective bullwark against the broader conservative movement and as such hope to see signs of it in their electoral failings but I don't think any of us have illusions that it's going to happen overnight rather than the continued steady erosion we've been witness to for forty years. 2022 though isn't looking good for them.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:well relying on the democrats is certainly a bad strategy. what actually changes things for the better are big social movements like the civil rights movement and the labor movement. but the constituencies here tend to be grouped up with the democratic party, and the republicans being in power are not favorable to our purposes. my friends who are involved in labor organizing prefer the democrats because they're one of the two options and because of the NLRB appointments, whereas the republicans will go out of their way to gently caress with them and appoint people to the NLRB who are actively hostile to labor. like take all the recent labor organizing going on at amazon and starbucks and shut that down -- that's basically what you're asking for if the republicans get back in there. This is the objectively correct take
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projecthalaxy posted:Fetterman is going to "mask off" Fetterman already sucks wrt Israel but I still want to se Dr Oz eat poo poo
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:well relying on the democrats is certainly a bad strategy. what actually changes things for the better are big social movements like the civil rights movement and the labor movement. but the constituencies here tend to be grouped up with the democratic party, and the republicans being in power are not favorable to our purposes. my friends who are involved in labor organizing prefer the democrats because they're one of the two options and because of the NLRB appointments, whereas the republicans will go out of their way to gently caress with them and appoint people to the NLRB who are actively hostile to labor. like take all the recent labor organizing going on at amazon and starbucks and shut that down -- that's basically what you're asking for if the republicans get back in there. Believe me I'm not saying voting for republicans is a good idea. I'm saying that in the majority of the country, there isn't really a choice. You can vote for republicans or democrats who are also republicans. It'd be one thing if you could expect these democrats to at least vote the party line on national issues but as we've pointed out often itt, you can't even expect that. Even if you work from the concept that being able to appoint chairs and positions as a party is somewhat valuable, the dems don't do so with consideration to building a future project and the gop does so they actively oppose or infinitely delay appointments counter to their aims while we don't get the same reciprocity by installing dems into power. I'm not saying you're wrong, you're not, voting isn't hard and it can't hurt. That being said I don't think it can help either and in the end the lion is going to catch you. Personally I'd rather get to the actual confrontation with the lion than be tackled from behind if those are my two options. At least once the lion is on you you've moved to a new phase in the lion attack, because we aren't doing too well at this phase of it.
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