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SlowBloke posted:One is reversible, the other isn't? bird with big dick posted:I'm not sure $3200 buys you much of a paintjob here either. Tbh I'd expect to pay a minimum of about twice that for a quality one based off some of the work I've had done recently but I could be off.
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So here’s a trip report. I drove down from SF to LA twice with the Mach-E the past few weeks. Some observations:
There’s probably more to add, but all in all would do again 10/10
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WhiteHowler posted:I guess. If I felt strongly enough to spend thousands to change the color of my car, I think I'd commit to it. I'd expect a real good paint job fully masked to run about $7k. A wrap is the way to go unless you're repairing damage.
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Aug 24, 2022 23:07
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Is it just coincidental that wraps became commonplace with Tesla’s, or does their design just happen to make these mods easy? I swear I never saw this stuff until purple model S’s showed up.
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Aug 24, 2022 23:14
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WhiteHowler posted:I guess. If I felt strongly enough to spend thousands to change the color of my car, I think I'd commit to it. A wrap protects the paint and can be relatively easily removed so when it’s time to sell the car you can just pull the wrap off and have a nice factory paint job underneath so the next owner doesn’t have to like whatever weird rear end fluorescent anime wrap you got put on.
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knox_harrington posted:Clench kegels for regenerative braking Thread title
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Nuts and Gum posted:Is it just coincidental that wraps became commonplace with Tesla’s, or does their design just happen to make these mods easy? I swear I never saw this stuff until purple model S’s showed up. Wraps have gotten a lot better in the last decade or so is probably the biggest part of it. Plus Tesla palette is simple and well known so wraps stand out. You are less likely to notice a wrapped Cobalt (or you will assume it is paint)
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Wraps have gotten a lot better in the last decade or so is probably the biggest part of it. Plus Tesla palette is simple and well known so wraps stand out. You are less likely to notice a wrapped Cobalt (or you will assume it is paint) You're less likely to notice a Cobalt, period. I had one as a loaner while my old car was in the shop. The only impressive thing about that car was it felt cheaper than it actually was. Only car I've ever driven to make me think that maybe the Geo Metro wasn't that bad really.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I'd expect a real good paint job fully masked to run about $7k. A wrap is the way to go unless you're repairing damage. I'm picky about my car colors, but I don't think I'd pay anywhere near that much. YOLOsubmarine posted:A wrap protects the paint and can be relatively easily removed so when it’s time to sell the car you can just pull the wrap off and have a nice factory paint job underneath so the next owner doesn’t have to like whatever weird rear end fluorescent anime wrap you got put on. How durable are they? If it gets dinged or gouged, is it repairable? My car is a magnet for people opening their door into it, or backing into my bumper/rear quarter panel while it's parked. I mean, it's kind of academic since at this point I likely won't get a new car until early 2023. The new tax credit killed my chances of buying anything this year, unless my local dealer randomly gets someone backing out of a Mach-E preorder.
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cruft posted:Yup, tell us what your budget is, and any requirements. Like some people are like "hard pass on Tesla" and other people are like "hard pass on dealerships". easy enough! budget: i've come into some money as of late, so i'm willing to spend a good deal if the car's worth it. obviously the cheaper the better. use: main car. i'll be using this to motor around tucson for the most part. we'll certainly take some road trips to northern az, utah, el paso, and various parts of california, but i can't see making more than three or four of those per year. i do not commute for work, so i'd mostly use this to get groceries, go to restaurants, movies, etc. requirements: yea, i'd like to avoid tesla. i kind of hate everything about the brand, at least. that's...about it. would probably need to be a hybrid as tucson is not all that ev-friendly from what i can tell. what i like: uhh, well, what i like is probably not possible. my ideal car is probably an '86 jaguar xj6, which is about as far away as modern ev design as it gets. so...something not so garish would be great. i am not looking for an suv or anything close. just a simple sedan. having driven a few modern cars lately, i do like the middle dashboards with gps and apple connectivity. siriusxm is also great. how i drive: very conservative behind the wheel, completely non-aggressive. situation: i rent our home, but may be able to convince my landlord to add whatever needs to be added. i pay for the power at the place so i don't see why it wouldn't be fine? and if it's relatively cheap to add the necessary equpiment, sure. as for tucson itself, there are some charging stations here and there, but not terribly many. FLIPADELPHIA posted:One thing you should find out pretty quickly is if / how the new tax incentives for next year will impact your decision. The rules on which vehicles get the $7500 tax rebate are about to change dramatically. That may impact both your decision on which make/model to look at, and the timing of your purchase. yea, this would be good to know as well. i'm not familiar with what arizona would do so i can do some research there. i think these answers encompass what everybody asked. if not, just ask again and i'll answer. thanks for all of the help so far.
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WhiteHowler posted:Wow, that's crazy. How many hours of work would you expect a properly done paint job to require? Its probably over 40 hours to remove trim and non painted surfaces, mask, sand, lay down primer/paint/clearcoat, then buffing it out before they are done. Figure a labor rate north of $100/hr and you're already over $5k before any material costs. You don't want a cheap paint job because it means they probably skipped some important steps to save time.
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abelwingnut posted:easy enough! If you live in Tucson, you probably won't need chargers in Tucson. (as long as you get that home charger installed) You should get a Polestar 2. Going PHEV will just make you regret not going full EV.
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Yeah, Polestar 2 or Tesla Model 3 SR+ are good choices if you want a sedan and not some giant SUV. (Orders for the Tesla Model 3 Long Range are so backed up they stopped taking them for now and deliveries likely won't catch up till 2023 at this point, though a Model 3 Performance can be picked up sooner but they are so ridiculously powerful it wouldn't suit your conservative driving style.)
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Wayne Knight posted:If you live in Tucson, you probably won't need chargers in Tucson. (as long as you get that home charger installed) why wouldn't i need a charger in tucson? just because it's small? and what about while travelling? i imagine i'd have to go mostly gas on those. the southwest outside of ca and vegas seems pretty bleak for charging stations.
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Wayne is referring to DCFC, not the charger you put in your house. You'll have a couple hundred miles range so if you need to charge in Tucson you just go home.
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Yeah most people don't drive 270mi in a day, so you are unlikely to need a charger when driving around town assuming you have a charger at home. You leave with a full "tank" every morning.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Allow me to introduce you to my friend Earl… My friend got one of those I think they painted over some bird poo poo.
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abelwingnut posted:easy enough! Polestar or Kia EV6. But first you should start talking to your landlord about installing an L2 charger. This will improve the property value and they may be willing to take something off your rent for a while if you foot the bill. This is going to make a huge difference in your experience owning an EV.
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An L2 charger is definitely an improvement, but if you're averaging 10-20 miles a day, you can probably get away with a standard 110v household outlet and a mobile charger. Sadly, the EV market is really focused on SUV/Crossovers right now, mostly because those are the money-makers. In terms of standard sedans, there's really Tesla Model 3/S, the Polestar 1, and I guess the Lucid Airs that I can immediately recall. We don't get much in the way of big vans (with decent range), the only convertible experience is really the OG Tesla Roadster, and nobody's done an EV hot hatch. No, the Bolt/Volt/Leaf/Prius fail the "hot" part. For you, abelwingnut, something in the Bolt lineup might make sense? They're certainly not flashy or setting speed records, but they're full-electric perfectly reasonable commuter-mobiles. Biggest knock is they're closer to a hatchback than sedan.
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I do 50miles/day on my EV6 and 110v trickle charging has covered for me all year. It just about covers/recharges the commute every night. I might lose 1-2% if I drive or go somewhere else. I generally end the week still in the 90's and even with some weekend driving I'll start the next week full. (on the off chance I do some serious, 150+ miles a day driving, I do have a free L2 charger at work I can use to top off which I've used like 3 times this year) Like unless you do A LOT of driving, you'd be surprised with how much you could get away trickle charging an EV with 300+ mile range. The main convenience of L2 charging at home is having that range available every single day.
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Are any items supporting L2 chargers other than cars? Wondering if they become widespread enough if cordless yard tools like a lawnmower or even an ebike might. Or perhaps charging off 110V@15A is good enough and there are safety issues..
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priznat posted:Are any items supporting L2 chargers other than cars? Wondering if they become widespread enough if cordless yard tools like a lawnmower or even an ebike might. I, too, am wondering if there is a lawnmower out there that uses 12KW to convert your grass into plasma.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Like unless you do A LOT of driving, you'd be surprised with how much you could get away trickle charging an EV with 300+ mile range. The main convenience of L2 charging at home is having that range available every single day. This is good advice. I keep forgetting that there are people who don't have to drive 50 miles to get to Wal-Mart.
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Eyes Only posted:I, too, am wondering if there is a lawnmower out there that uses 12KW to convert your grass into plasma. I need my lawnmower to charge in 10 seconds. Otherwise what's the point - I'll just fill it up with gas!
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WhiteHowler posted:I guess. If I felt strongly enough to spend thousands to change the color of my car, I think I'd commit to it. Depending on your car and your long-term plans for it you might be incentivized to keep the paint stock, even if it’s boring
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I think you should get a BMW iX m60. Yes, you. You deserve it. Treat yourself.
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Tucson is a prime place to have an ebike, just saying. from personal experience
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bird with big dick posted:I think you should get a BMW iX m60. Yes, you. You deserve it. Treat yourself. I agree
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bird with big dick posted:I think you should get a BMW iX m60. Yes, you. You deserve it. Treat yourself. What the hell did I do wrong to deserve a BMW????? 
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So my 2022 bolt ev arrived tonight, and the guy didn't bring the level 2 charging cable. I plugged it in to every outlet in my garage but the instrument panel says "unable to charge" no matter what plug I put it in. They also delivered it with only like 15 miles of range left on it and I need to get to work tomorrow. Anyone have any ideas? This is a brand new car and I feel like I must be missing something here.
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SoR Blaze posted:So my 2022 bolt ev arrived tonight, and the guy didn't bring the level 2 charging cable. I plugged it in to every outlet in my garage but the instrument panel says "unable to charge" no matter what plug I put it in. They also delivered it with only like 15 miles of range left on it and I need to get to work tomorrow. Anyone have any ideas? This is a brand new car and I feel like I must be missing something here. Call the dealer and just scream continuously down the phone until they bring the cable
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YOLOsubmarine posted:A wrap protects the paint and can be relatively easily removed so when it’s time to sell the car you can just pull the wrap off and have a nice factory paint job underneath so the next owner doesn’t have to like whatever weird rear end fluorescent anime wrap you got put on. Strong "leaving plastic wrap on seats" energy here. Why have something nice if you refuse to enjoy it? Wraps look awful.
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builds character posted:Less than 100 is pretty terrible. 2wd is fine - the dirt bikes are for anything gnarly. GM BrightDrop’s rear doorway is 72” in height so inside it’s got even more headroom (82”) . Also comes in 4WD. 165kwh of batteries, same platform as other GM products. It holds a record for range: quote:BrightDrop driver Stephen Marlin has successfully attempted a Guinness World Records range drive in the Zevo 600. Marlin drove the Zevo 600 for nearly 260 miles in a trip from New York City to Washington, D.C. on a single charge. This is the longest distance an electric van has covered on a single charge. Marlin made stops at some iconic destinations during the trip, including landmarks in Philadelphia and Baltimore. Also … quote:The energy efficiency reading on the instrument cluster during Ars Technica’s brief drive was a decent 1.8 miles/kWh over 348 miles. No less than 260 miles of the drive was at highway speed. Which is pretty amazing for a vehicle this size (yes, with that height too)  More info here: https://topelectricsuv.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Brightdrop-Zevo-600-rear-view.jpg If the transit had a bigger battery it would make sense because of the van conversion kits. Converting a BrightDrop is going to be an entirely bespoke affair. Also I have no idea what GM charges for these. VideoGameVet fucked around with this message at 11:26 on Aug 25, 2022 |
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Steakandchips posted:
A bad wrap looks awful. A good wrap you cant tell at all the car was wrapped
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Steakandchips posted:Wraps look awful. wrong, bad, dumb
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SoR Blaze posted:So my 2022 bolt ev arrived tonight, and the guy didn't bring the level 2 charging cable. I plugged it in to every outlet in my garage but the instrument panel says "unable to charge" no matter what plug I put it in. They also delivered it with only like 15 miles of range left on it and I need to get to work tomorrow. Anyone have any ideas? This is a brand new car and I feel like I must be missing something here. So I took it down to the Blink station at my public library, and on the way the battery got low enough that it no longer displayed the range estimate. When I got there, the charging station required a tap card, which I do not have, and said that charging via a code (I'm assuming I would get that from the app) was disabled. Now it's sitting in my driveway with pretty much 0 charge. I'm fortunate enough that I could get home, but this is super disappointing and I'm really bummed out. I'm hoping the dealership will at least overnight me the level 2 cable, because otherwise I don't know what to do. I tried every outlet in my garage with the level 1 cable and every one gave me the "unable to charge" error. Is this potentially a problem with the car, or with the wiring in my garage?
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SoR Blaze posted:So I took it down to the Blink station at my public library, and on the way the battery got low enough that it no longer displayed the range estimate. When I got there, the charging station required a tap card, which I do not have, and said that charging via a code (I'm assuming I would get that from the app) was disabled. Now it's sitting in my driveway with pretty much 0 charge. I'm fortunate enough that I could get home, but this is super disappointing and I'm really bummed out. I had to buy a 3rd party charger to do level 1 in my place because the Kia charger did that., In my case it’s the house (rented duplex). The entire place was wired by amateurs.
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Steakandchips posted:Strong "leaving plastic wrap on seats" energy here. I’ve never gotten a car wrapped but a) a well done wrap looks indistinguishable from a paint job and b) I don’t think a wrap makes a car less fun to drive
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Wraps and paint jobs are tied old boring stuff. It’s all about LEDs now.
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