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Jesus christ, just take the W its a good thing that the white house is challenging such transparent dumb poo poo from critics
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Jaxyon posted:Remember when we talked about "conspiracy numerology" and "jumping at shadows" a bit back in this thread? There's a pretty clear difference between "if you add these numbers together you get 14" or whatever the original argument was (since you're referencing something weeks ago), and "roll on to 88 Tactical Gun Range, get yourself some SS Coffee in a black-and-red mug decorated with hawk motifs at 88 Tactical gun range, which we falsely claim is 1488 feet above ground, and maybe meet one of the South American fascist politicians our company has close personal and financial ties to".
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EmbryoSteve posted:Jesus christ, just take the W it's at the 'happy to be wrong' stage of 'happy' it's a good thing
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Jaxyon posted:I think you're reading too much of the RWM thread. I'll need to read up on the particular forgiveness details but iirc an employer who A) got more than 100k and B) did not use it appropriately on employee compensation might be liable source: am the guy who read the thing for our company when we were applying for it
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Yeah, I have to admit I'm really enjoying the Biden administration showing some spine here - would have expected them to be a lot less on point given his past stances on the issue, their previous responses to things like the Dobbs ruling, etc.Jaxyon posted:Remember when we talked about "conspiracy numerology" and "jumping at shadows" a bit back in this thread? There's a security company I see at some of the apartment complexes around here called Signal 88. I always thought that was suspicious, so I just looked it up after seeing your post and surprise! Apparently it was formed by the same guy.
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Main Paineframe posted:There's a pretty clear difference between "if you add these numbers together you get 14" or whatever the original argument was (since you're referencing something weeks ago), and "roll on to 88 Tactical Gun Range, get yourself some SS Coffee in a black-and-red mug decorated with hawk motifs at 88 Tactical gun range, which we falsely claim is 1488 feet above ground, and maybe meet one of the South American fascist politicians our company has close personal and financial ties to". it was the 30-50 hogs guy, something about his post somehow added up to 88.
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Looks like the bumper of that car the GOP caught is starting to turn to ashes in their mouth. Included the video mentioned below. https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1562880134129991680 https://twitter.com/YahooNews/status/1562058201993986048 These people write laws that impact the lives of hundreds of millions of people and it never even occurs to them that it might be worthwhile to consult a domain expert beforehand, smh. Government is really just chimpanzees flying 777's. The built-in autopilot and onboard systems do a lot of the work, but at the end of the day, it's still just chimps in the cockpit. -Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Aug 26, 2022 |
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Nazzadan posted:it was the 30-50 hogs guy, something about his post somehow added up to 88. 30+50=80 3+5= 8 88 It is a massive stretch (unlike the straight up marketing to Nazis Jaxyon just linked)
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-Blackadder- posted:Government is really just chimpanzees flying FTFY.
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Zwabu posted:DeSantis is smart so there’s no way he will directly confront or attack Trump unless he saw it as necessary and unavoidable. Thing that irks the living hell out of me is, as horrible as their top tier candidates and most well known officials are, Republicans give their loving base exactly what they want and seem to have no shortage of horrible monsters sitting on their bench, waiting to run as they keep doubling down on the abject insanity. Thinking about it right now, who am I supposed to get fired up for in 2024 as a pretty far left voter who just wants basic reasonable things like M4A, serious police reform, national abortion rights and maybe jut a slight decrease in military spending? Who speaks for me and gets me excited to vote, let alone donate money and time I do not have to give.
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God I hope James O'Keefe finally gets to see prison for something https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1562860284359766016
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:God I hope James O'Keefe finally gets to see prison for something TPM had a long post on this. Basically, under US law as a journalist you are allowed to publish stolen material without committing a crime as long as you had nothing to do with stealing it. Someone says "hey i stole these documents, want to see?" is fine. Saying "hey, i can steal some documents, want me to?" is a crime. Going "hey, could you go steal me some more of these documents?" definitely a crime.
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Waiting to see if Dems walk it back for fake “breach of privacy” concerns. This is public information easily available to anyone interested.
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Yeah. It’s good Dems are allowing for a single droplet of decorum breaking but it does demonstrate how truly easy it is to sling money around for free as long as you are an immoral capitalist. They might but the White House was just cribbing off of the numerous twitter threads already doing this, so its a bit of a stretch. They're definitely making it more widespread but its not as if no-one was putting two and two together before.
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Someone needs to start a write in campaign for Trump for FL governor.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Simultaneously huge news, but also hilariously grim that this is just now happening. Can anyone tell what they're actually going to do? It's a lot of jargon and the only concrete step I can figure out is they're going to have a bunch of guys whose job it is to hang out at drone command saying things like "hey, try not to kill any civilians!" It's all internal auditing and processes...?
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Atahualpa posted:Yeah, I have to admit I'm really enjoying the Biden administration showing some spine here - would have expected them to be a lot less on point given his past stances on the issue, their previous responses to things like the Dobbs ruling, etc. Huh. My old apartment in Federal Way switched to Signal 88 right after Blackstone equity bought the rental management company they were using.
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some plague rats posted:Can anyone tell what they're actually going to do? It's a lot of jargon and the only concrete step I can figure out is they're going to have a bunch of guys whose job it is to hang out at drone command saying things like "hey, try not to kill any civilians!" It's all internal auditing and processes...? Here's the full document. https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/civilian-harm-mitigation-and-response-action-plan-chmr-ap/8e912a7bd782218a/full.pdf It includes a bunch of stuff like: - Establishing a civilian oversight board. - Making commanding officers punishable for people under their command committing reckless actions that can endanger civilians or actually endangering civilians (this includes calling in air strikes) - Establish new rules of engagement for soldiers and drones that prevents engagement if there are any risk factors for civilians. - Some of the military budget will be diverted to implementing policies to reduce civilian casualties and establishing funds to pay anyone injured. - Some more of the military budget will be locked each year if the Pentagon doesn't submit an updated policy and ways to improve data calculation. - All military operations have to include calculations for potential civilian injuries and require approval from civilian leadership if the likelihood is too high. - Requires the military to pay for the repair of any buildings or property damaged by their operations. - Requires country and region-specific intelligence gathering to better calculate the odds of civilian casualties and avoid out of date or too generalized estimates. - Requires all civilian casualties, property damage, and injuries to be reported to the civilian oversight board and made public. - Establish an IG that investigates instances of civilian casualties outside of the normal military chain of command. - Any recommendations for discipline or charges by the civilian IG board have to be made public and have to be acted upon. - Revamping the training, officer education requirements, and data collection rules to emphasize harm mitigation. - Involvement in or overseeing subordinates who have been involved in civilian personal or property damage has to be considered when making promotions and career assignments (more = block promotion, less = consider for promotion). - All military exercises have to plan for and be scored based on potential civilian casualties. - Any operation with a risk of civilian casualties has to "provide detailed justification for resourcing required" over other options. - Requires all partner nations or other non-American forces to abide by these rules. - A bunch of internal bureaucratic, training, and auditing changes. - Provide a procedure for members of the public to report misconduct. - Standardize data collection and reporting across all military branches. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Aug 26, 2022 |
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some plague rats posted:Can anyone tell what they're actually going to do? It's a lot of jargon and the only concrete step I can figure out is they're going to have a bunch of guys whose job it is to hang out at drone command saying things like "hey, try not to kill any civilians!" It's all internal auditing and processes...? You're not wrong, but I saw (what seemed to me to be) other notable, specific changes. quote:The steps include putting officials responsible for reducing civilian harm inside the combatant commands and Pentagon policy offices; imposing a new system to reduce the risk of misidentifying targets and “confirmation bias” — the tendency to favor information that confirms pre-existing beliefs; and creating a 30-person center to handle departmentwide analysis and training regarding civilian protection.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Here's the full document. So it's a lot of data collection and financial penalties, the one thing that actually seems to include any kind of repercussions is "Making commanding officers punishable for people under their command committing reckless actions that can endanger civilians or actually endangering civilians (this includes calling in air strikes)", does it specify anywhere what it would be punishable with? I'd love to be wrong but this just seems to add a bunch of layers of bureaucracy before the military can do what they were going to anyway, financial interference that's a piss in the ocean of their budget, and a bunch of "civilian oversight" that could easily end up like the FISA courts- a rubber-stamp designed to add plausible deniability when it's time to point fingers. It's good they're trying something, and I'd love to be wrong and this results in no more civilians getting wiped out, but it just sounds like a lot of paperwork and fiddling about in a desperate attempt to avoid the obvious, one sentence solution to the problem which would be "stop loving launching missiles at other people's homes"
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-Blackadder- posted:These people write laws that impact the lives of hundreds of millions of people and it never even occurs to them that it might be worthwhile to consult a domain expert beforehand, smh. Yeah and it's SO much worse at the state level. I worked as a staff member for the state govt where I live for a few years and the House members were some of the absolute dumbest, weirdest shitheads you could ever meet. Most state reps make almost no money so it's either business grifters or true believers and they can all be bought for laughably small bribes. Working there was the start of my radicalization- waking up to realize that our society is run by these people is pretty shocking.
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Yeah and it's SO much worse at the state level. I worked as a staff member for the state govt where I live for a few years and the House members were some of the absolute dumbest, weirdest shitheads you could ever meet. Most state reps make almost no money so it's either business grifters or true believers and they can all be bought for laughably small bribes. Working there was the start of my radicalization- waking up to realize that our society is run by these people is pretty shocking. What state?
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DeadlyMuffin posted:How do "slinging money around for free" and capitalism go together? This doesn't make any sense to me. If you're rich it's very easy to get even more money from the government. If you're not rich you have to beg for scraps.
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pencilhands posted:What state? The paragraph applies for all 50 states.
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Fister Roboto posted:If you're rich it's very easy to get even more money from the government. If you're not rich you have to beg for scraps. This is what class solidarity looks like.
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A thread about how student loans work and how forgiveness would work might be helpful, I'm discussing the recent student loan forgiveness with a friend and they seem convinced that the loans are held by banks, and that the mint will be printing money to pay for these loans. The loans are owed to the Department of Education, right? That's why they can be forgiven by executive order in the first place.
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Triskelli posted:A thread about how student loans work and how forgiveness would work might be helpful, I'm discussing the recent student loan forgiveness with a friend and they seem convinced that the loans are held by banks, and that the mint will be printing money to pay for these loans. The loans are owed to the Department of Education, right? That's why they can be forgiven by executive order in the first place. It's at the top of this forum
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Triskelli posted:A thread about how student loans work and how forgiveness would work might be helpful, I'm discussing the recent student loan forgiveness with a friend and they seem convinced that the loans are held by banks, and that the mint will be printing money to pay for these loans. The loans are owed to the Department of Education, right? That's why they can be forgiven by executive order in the first place. There is one. It's stickied in this forum: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4010697 There is also a thread in BFC, I believe. And yes, the loans are all held by the Department of Education thanks to... Obamacare. So, indirectly, Obamacare made student loan forgiveness possible. Any fully privately issued loans (not just serviced by a private company) are not eligible for forgiveness. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Aug 26, 2022 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:And yes, the loans are all held by the Department of Education thanks to... Obamacare. So, indirectly, Obamacare made student loan forgiveness possible. Circling back to an earlier joke, we owe Obamacare to Mitt Romney. This means, indirectly, Joseph Smith is responsible for the student loan forgiveness.
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It is pretty funny how "semi-fascist" is both the most rousing condemnation of Republican pieces of poo poo by a sitting president and still decorum-poisoned enough to kill Mithridates. And they say Americans are confrontational.
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davecrazy posted:Someone needs to start a write in campaign for Trump for FL governor. If I bother at all, I'm writing in Nikki Fried
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Lib and let die posted:If I bother at all, I'm writing in Nikki Fried If you're going to write in someone with no chance of winning, then you should write in something funnier so you can be on the news if they do a recount. Like the "Lizard People" guy that Al Franken's campaign fought (successfully) to get counted. 
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:If you're going to write in someone with no chance of winning, then you should write in something funnier so you can be on the news if they do a recount. Like the "Lizard People" guy that Al Franken's campaign fought (successfully) to get counted. Let me be clear: I will almost certainly be staying home touching myself rather than voting
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Lib and let die posted:Let me be clear: I will almost certainly be staying home touching myself rather than voting I love these little details of your life and choices - do you have a Blogspot or Tumblr?
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Sonic the Hedgehog because he will use the chaos emeralds for silly things like turning yellow and going even faster.
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Vote Val Demmings in November and send a cop on the beat to Washington!
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Lib and let die posted:Vote Val Demmings in November and send a cop on the beat to Washington! Stop shitposting.
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