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Young Justice doesn't underperform. It performs exactly as well as it deserves to.
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https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1562558731027525641 someone who is good at finances help me, my media conglomerate is dying
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Aug 25, 2022 06:12
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HVejEB5uVk&t=7s
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Aug 25, 2022 06:23
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DoctorWhat posted:Young Justice doesn't underperform. It performs exactly as well as it deserves to. So many timeskips by now it's Old Justice.
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Aug 25, 2022 10:20
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On the one hand, Warner Bros Discovery sucks, On the other hand, they have Dwayne Johnson and Florence Pugh. Those are good actors.
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Aug 25, 2022 11:16
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https://mobile.twitter.com/TheRealDonEast/status/1560076154744315905
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Aug 25, 2022 20:12
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DoctorWhat posted:Young Justice doesn't underperform. It performs exactly as well as it deserves to. Young Justice is the second highest watched and rated animated show on all streaming services. Only Arcane has done better than it.
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Aug 25, 2022 23:13
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it's trash
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Aug 25, 2022 23:26
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The 7th Guest posted:apparently the previous batman cartoon (Beware the Batman) was performing so badly that it was pulled mid-run like a broadcast TV show would be, and was then written off, but that was years ago. even though BTB and B:CC don't share much DNA, zaslav is enough of an idiot that I could see him thinking "oh well that did badly so this will probably do badly too". Beware never had a chance, it was strangled in its crib. It was doing fine by metrics, but at its 7th episode it was taken off air and the rest of the series ended airing overseas before CN decided finally to do something with it by giving it to Toonami. Where a few weeks into airing there it was suddenly written off. Back then we noticed a pattern with CN show where stuff they wanted to get rid of would suddenly be taken off air without explanation before being aired in different slots with their return unadvertised with as little attention given to them as possible so they could use that as justification to cancel them.
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Aug 25, 2022 23:32
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DoctorWhat posted:it's trash Well it has done very well for itself regardless of your feelings.
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Aug 25, 2022 23:33
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It didn't help Beware the Batman it came right after the stellar Brave and the bold.
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Aug 25, 2022 23:34
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MonsterEnvy posted:Beware never had a chance, it was strangled in its crib. It was doing fine by metrics, but at its 7th episode it was taken off air and the rest of the series ended airing overseas before CN decided finally to do something with it by giving it to Toonami. Where a few weeks into airing there it was suddenly written off. I remember when Steven Universe would air outside of the US weeks or months before the US CN because of CN's stupid Steven Bombs. My roommate and I would watch the episodes as they came out every week and then skip when the released on US CN.
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Aug 25, 2022 23:37
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MonsterEnvy posted:Well it has done very well for itself regardless of your feelings. love a show where orion has space autism because his dad is darkseid.
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Aug 25, 2022 23:40
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"character has emotional control issues because his father is the avatar of evil" maybe isn't the sick burn you envisioned it to be? The last two seasons of YJ were great and it sucks I won't get any more development of The Light V Darkseid
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Aug 26, 2022 02:07
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"guy has emotional control issues because his dad is the avatar of evil" is one thing. "autism mom is scared of her own autistic son because orion reads as autistic to her" is another thing. Bafflingly clumsy metaphor that treats autism as a spectacle/teaching moment instead of with real dignity.
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Aug 26, 2022 02:44
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Young Justice uses the signifiers of being good instead of actually being good. It has intrigue, but no meaning. It's not fun to look at because the budget is so stunted. Greg Weisman is ideologically opposed to resolving character arcs or building to real conclusions and demands that fans pick fights with social media accounts in order to bail him out of his own cliffhangers. When the show attempts to address real social issues, it either slams face-first into clumsy mutant metaphor bullshit, or takes ten minutes to explain what a pronoun is in low-budget talking-head sequences where half the faces are offscreen, in order to not alienate the subset of its fanbase who are reactionary comic book grognards. There was solid soap opera material in that first season way back when but it's gotten worse every year since then. Season 3 was about how pizzagate was real. Also 9/10 black characters are voiced by Khary Peyton or Kevin Michael Richardson because, charitably, they can't afford anybody else. And again, as an autistic man and as a caretaker for autistic kids, I found the entire Orion and Icon plot to be totally wretched. Anyway YJ hasn't been a kid's show for years so maybe this is the wrong thread. DoctorWhat fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Aug 26, 2022 |
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Aug 26, 2022 02:51
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Ok k.o. is on Hulu now.
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Aug 26, 2022 04:55
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DoctorWhat posted:
what do you mean by this? Wouldn't it be EASIER to hire lesser known black voice actors since they WOULDN'T have to pay them as much as KMR?
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Aug 26, 2022 05:48
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KMR and Payton are both already playing main cast characters and the way union voice acting works, they can be tapped for additional voices on a per-episode basis.
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Aug 26, 2022 05:52
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DoctorWhat posted:KMR and Payton are both already playing main cast characters and the way union voice acting works, they can be tapped for additional voices on a per-episode basis. forgive me if i'm still misunderstanding, but the producers don't NEED to hire them for those roles, do they?
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Aug 26, 2022 07:12
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thought this was funny/interesting: https://twitter.com/jonrog1/status/1562911101649465344 https://twitter.com/jonrog1/status/1562919860144746497
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Aug 26, 2022 07:47
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Mr Interweb posted:forgive me if i'm still misunderstanding, but the producers don't NEED to hire them for those roles, do they? They're reprising roles they had back when it was a full budget series on Cartoon Network
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Aug 26, 2022 07:54
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Mr Interweb posted:thought this was funny/interesting: This is how I learn that John Rogers was behind Jackie Chan Adventures lmao
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Aug 26, 2022 08:27
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Rocket's autism plotline seemed more about making her realize she was being an exceedingly lovely parent by trying to excuse her son's behavior as it wasn't conforming to the norm/resisting accomodations that would benefit him. She was more focused on how others perceived him than his specific needs. But I felt they did A Neurodivergent better with Greg Bugg anyway. Mr Interweb posted:forgive me if i'm still misunderstanding, but the producers don't NEED to hire them for those roles, do they?
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Aug 26, 2022 13:30
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I regret putting off watching the last season of Infinity Train.
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Aug 27, 2022 21:40
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JT Smiley posted:I regret putting off watching the last season of Infinity Train. You didn’t miss much honestly, it’s not terrible per se but it’s definitely the weakest of the 4 seasons
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Aug 27, 2022 21:51
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Senerio posted:This is how I learn that John Rogers was behind Jackie Chan Adventures lmao Jackie Chan Adventures is 1000% better than a show with that premise had any right to be.
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Aug 27, 2022 22:01
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Covok posted:Jackie Chan Adventures is 1000% better than a show with that premise had any right to be. What is truly wild is that it's the basically the only successful version of that kind of cartoon they kept trying to make where it's like "Hey, let's make a Mr T cartoon" or whatever. I mean, I'm sure those made money for their investors, but people actually have really fond memories of Jackie Chan adventures and still talk about it. I mean, mostly in the sense that it was way better than it should have been.
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Aug 27, 2022 22:31
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Yeah I remember and quite liked that show.
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Aug 27, 2022 23:11
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I liked that the Tarakudo season gave Tohru time to shine as a chi wizard because before they'd been dealing with Chinese demons and sorcerers so they were all Uncle's forte, but Tarakudo was a Japanese demon so Tohru took point because it was his mythology.
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Aug 27, 2022 23:14
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Covok posted:Jackie Chan Adventures is 1000% better than a show with that premise had any right to be. There are two big factors in it's success; 1) unlike a lot of celebrity driven cartoons this wasn't just a callous grab for money, it was something of a passion project for Jackie Chan who had had a life long dream of seeing himself immortalized in animation, and 2) Adelaide Productions during it's 20 years of existence were the nigh undisputed masters of licensed cartoons
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Aug 28, 2022 01:23
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I Am Fowl posted:What is truly wild is that it's the basically the only successful version of that kind of cartoon they kept trying to make where it's like "Hey, let's make a Mr T cartoon" or whatever. I mean, I'm sure those made money for their investors, but people actually have really fond memories of Jackie Chan adventures and still talk about it. I mean, mostly in the sense that it was way better than it should have been. I think it also helps that Jackie Chan actually has a skillset that translates to kid-friendly cartoon action, and his whole stock character personality actually works for the formula. When the first episode has the henchman tell their boss he beat them up with windscreen wipers, you know you're in for a good time. BioEnchanted posted:I liked that the Tarakudo season gave Tohru time to shine as a chi wizard because before they'd been dealing with Chinese demons and sorcerers so they were all Uncle's forte, but Tarakudo was a Japanese demon so Tohru took point because it was his mythology. There was also an episode where Jackie accidentally ends up taking over a mission for the more James Bond style secret agent, of the high-tech spy agency that normally supports them but is out of their depth with magical foes.
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Aug 28, 2022 07:38
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Larryb posted:You didn’t miss much honestly, it’s not terrible per se but it’s definitely the weakest of the 4 seasons I figured. I watched the first episode or two and decided to just wait till it was all done cause I wasn't really feeling it.
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Aug 28, 2022 07:51
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Weirdly, I was in a charity shop yesterday and they had the chicken talisman from Jackie Chan Adventures as a pendant. Kind of regretting not getting it.
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Aug 28, 2022 08:37
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Larryb posted:You didn’t miss much honestly, it’s not terrible per se but it’s definitely the weakest of the 4 seasons If someone was watching the show from the start nowadays I'd tell them to watch 1 2 4 3, 3's a better ending and 4 can go anywhere.
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Aug 28, 2022 09:15
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MikeJF posted:If someone was watching the show from the start nowadays I'd tell them to watch 1 2 4 3, 3's a better ending and 4 can go anywhere. Especially since 4’s a prequel and doesn’t really have any straight connection to the others (though I imagine they might have bridged the gap had the show been allowed to keep going as planned) But yeah, Book 3 definitely feels like a better note to end on
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Aug 28, 2022 12:53
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Something I appreciated in JCA was how they used foreshadowing with images that were actually important in hindsight, like Tarakudo's whole arc. Tarakudo was the same design that Jade tattooed on her leg in one episode to accidentally become queen of the Shadow Khan, and of course in a later season the demon himself shows up and it's like "OH, she was tapping into this guys power that day. Neat" A lot of it was probably on the fly, but that it at least felt foreshadowed helped. Apparently the final season was kind of a mess, but that's probably why I don't remember it. I still remember some of the demon's names this far apart from seeing it too, like Po Kong the mountain demon and Hsi Wu the sky demon (Shendu goes without saying though)
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Aug 28, 2022 14:25
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I know its alittle off topic. But why did ATT fight for years to buy warner media? I remember it was ATT wanted to have a content library for its own streaming service (sorta like what disney did to fox) Then ATT learned they dont know how to run a media company so now they sold it to discovery? I remember Ted Turner in the late 1980's bought MGM in bankruptcy took their catalog of films spooled up the studio and then sold it. hell I thought cartoon network was created because turner media had the Hannah Barbara library etc. Has the streaming landscape just turned to poo poo?
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Aug 28, 2022 15:38
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Ups_rail posted:Has the streaming landscape just turned to poo poo? Yes.
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I guess Turner was more interested in revitalizing and repurposing Hannah-Barbera because it was company founded for and experienced with making television animation, which was a mainstay of TV, while MGM had its big library (which it had also spent its time buying up and katamari-ing others' content and distribution rights into their library), but the actual making-movies part would be a distraction from the intent to make more TV content. ATT apparently was going through its own cost-cutting, and I guess they just put the newest acquisition on the chopping block. Streaming has always been a fairly small pond with only a few players, it's just now that some people have shifted entirely to streaming services for their entertainment, that's really enhancing the visibility of the problems.
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