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Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



forkboy84 posted:


TBH I'm surprised no one has tried to make an electronic device that can detect the aromatic element of the truffle.

Oh they absolutely have! They’re just not as good as pigs or dogs.

Pigs are better than dogs, but can’t be trained not to eat the truffle so you have to contend with that. Dogs aren’t quite as good but you can train them just to find them.

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Miftan posted:

It's mostly dogs now apparently because the pigs kept just straight up eating the truffles they found. I've never heard anything about pigs that made me think they shouldn't be in charge..

Have you not heard of the documentary Animal Farm?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I've heard that the book and the film aren't very similar.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Itzena posted:

Hah, I don't think BBC Breakfast were expecting Martin Lewis to just come on and go "Unless the government acts about energy bills right now thousands of people are going to die this winter"

Beeb: "So, any other tips? "
Martin: "I've been doing this for years and right now? I've got nothing"

Tips from the Tories is "Don't be poor."

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
liz says start a business and make a profit you lazy layabout :nono:

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

NotJustANumber99 posted:

the chickens eat the eggs?

Tricky to get them not to. Turns out that the stuff in eggs is pretty good for egg production, they can't get enough of it. Shells and all.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
While I don't blame them for eating tasty eggs, I don't think chickens are very discerning in their diet. I had some for a while and if I sat down in the garden they'd try to eat the rivets off my jeans.

Clarence
May 3, 2012

We've realised that we don't actually know what the energy cap means.

When it's all boiled down, is it the government saying to the energy companies that they can't charge more than x per unit of electricity, and y per unit of gas?

Is it only gas and electric? What about heating oil? (Which is starting to shoot up in price again so if anyone is putting off getting some now might be the time.)

E: EDF are implementing a queueing system on their website, never mind on the phones. 6 minutes to wait before I can see the front page. I was going to ring them to ask what being on a fixed tariff really meant, but I'm guessing I'd be queueing for hours to get to speak to anyone.

Clarence fucked around with this message at 09:53 on Aug 26, 2022

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


bessantj posted:

Tips from the Tories is "Don't be poor."

You'd think their core demographic would be up for a bit of rationing or something given how much they bang on about the wartime etc, but yours seems to be their actual policy preference

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Clarence posted:

We've realised that we don't actually know what the energy cap means.

When it's all boiled down, is it the government saying to the energy companies that they can't charge more than x per unit of electricity, and y per unit of gas?

Is it only gas and electric? What about heating oil? (Which is starting to shoot up in price again so if anyone is putting off getting some now might be the time.)

E: EDF are implementing a queueing system on their website, never mind on the phones. 6 minutes to wait before I can see the front page. I was going to ring them to ask what being on a fixed tariff really meant, but I'm guessing I'd be queueing for hours to get to speak to anyone.

Actually, this is what they meant by an energy cap

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


Clarence posted:



When it's all boiled down, is it the government saying to the energy companies that they can't charge more than x per unit of electricity, and y per unit of gas?

Yes, on their default flexible tariff
https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/check-if-energy-price-cap-affects-you

It is NOT a cap on your actual bill.


Idk about heating oil, my guess is no though.

e: also, the way the cap is set up it isn't designed to protect against movements in the underlying commodity prices, just excess profits from your retail supplier (i.e. not the producer)

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Are truffles not just factory farmed these days, or is it still some french peasant and his pig out hunting the forests for them?

Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
🔬🍒


There’s a great documentary on iPlayer about truffle hunters, I would definitely recommend it

To summarise, most truffle hunters are nutty old men, they use dogs that they love more than their own wives, they are very difficult to farm so the entire industry relies on people who live near woods who won’t tell anyone (not even their own children) where their best spots are

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Mano posted:

I wanted to ask this the last time you mentioned something. Are you really buying your ingredients in a normal shop? Are there no Engros shops for businesses like e.g topcc or prodega etc like we have in CH?
They’re not necessarily (much) cheaper, but they have things in bigger amounts. (Be careful about VAT).

Used Costco when I was in London, but since moving way out into the country the distance between here and my nearest cash and carry means that in the volume I currently buy in, there’s no benefit to economy. I work from home, so I don’t have (for example) large scale refrigerated storage for the dairy items I use, nor the space to store dry goods beyond a week-on-week basis.

Though given how my operations are expanding that’ll probably change in the next six months. When I started I was making about five kilos a week; I’ve made 60kg in the past ten days now and have recently formed a cooperative with some close friends to help with packaging and hitting more markets.

Lady Gaza
Nov 20, 2008

kecske posted:

every prime minister since 1945 morphed into one:



I used the prompt “An average of every British prime minister, oil painting” in Dall-E and got this

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Dabir posted:

Tricky to get them not to. Turns out that the stuff in eggs is pretty good for egg production, they can't get enough of it. Shells and all.
"Eggs are full of all the things you need for egg production, like egg." is strong Bob Mortimer energy.

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Perhaps chickens are the key to making a perpetual motion machine.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


keep punching joe posted:

Are truffles not just factory farmed these days, or is it still some french peasant and his pig out hunting the forests for them?

Truffles as I understand have a symbiotic relationship with the trees they live around. The fungi are linked to the root system and provide nutrients & water in exchange for sugars. Now you can seed a sapling with the fungus but you're still getting pretty low yields, and relying on dogs to find the stuff. The most desirable truffles are pretty fussy about soil conditions as well

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
According to the Nicolas Cage movie Pig, truffle hunters are also really into holding underground fight clubs for some reason

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009

big scary monsters posted:

While I don't blame them for eating tasty eggs, I don't think chickens are very discerning in their diet. I had some for a while and if I sat down in the garden they'd try to eat the rivets off my jeans.

They peck stuff to figure out what it is. They were probably attracted to the shininess.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
Truffles are probably one of the last few food items we haven't industrialised, the reason being they are incredibly fussy. They only grow around specific tree roots, soil too wet or too dry and won't grow, too much light won't grow. The prima donna of fungi.

It's completely reliant on people walking around specific forests looking for them. It's why they are so expensive.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Matsutake is like that too, The Mushroom at the End of the World is an interesting case study about the mycelium-like interweaving of forests, migrant groups, ethnicity, local markets, and globalized commodity supply chains.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Jippa posted:

They peck stuff to figure out what it is. shininess.

Yet when I try this same level of inquisition down the pub I get the poo poo kicked out of me.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Brendan Rodgers posted:

Perhaps chickens are the key to making a perpetual motion machine.

Yes, but where do you start?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Eggs, the first thing that we could call a chicken came from an egg laid by something that was not a chicken because eggs predate chickens by a wide margin.

escapegoat
Aug 18, 2013
So if you don't need a chicken to make an egg but do need an egg to make an egg then which came first, the egg or the egg?

team overhead smash
Sep 2, 2006

Team-Forest-Tree-Dog:
Smashing your way into our hearts one skylight at a time

I think it’s implied that it’s what came first the chicken or the chicken egg.

Which begs the question is a chicken egg a chicken egg because:

1) It was laid by a chicken.
Or
2) A chicken hatched from it.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Are junglefowl chickens? Most people would be hard pressed to tell the difference, and the first chickens hatched from eggs laid by them.

RDevz
Dec 7, 2002

Wasn't me Guv

Darth Walrus posted:

Just to be clear, that's three and a half thousand quid over what time period?

It’s over a 12 month period, under the assumption that the rates stay the same for those 12 months (they won’t), and that you use exactly 3600 kWh of electricity and 12000 kWh of gas (you won’t). If you use more than these amounts, you’ll pay more in total than the cap - it’s the combined unit rate and standing charge at the reference consumption amount that’s capped.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
I don't get why on earth back at the dawn of time, anyone would see a thing like this lurking in the woods and EAT IT! :shockprobe:

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum

RDevz posted:

it’s the combined unit rate and standing charge at the reference consumption amount that’s capped.

This is the abhorrent part. It means the standing charge is the one that gets raised significantly because while everyone scrambles to reduce their usage it just pulls you back to the cap.

piano chimp
Feb 2, 2008

ye



They smell amazing though, I wouldn't blame them for shoving at least a little bit in their mouth

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Gonzo McFee posted:

I got probated for a week because I thought it was funny that the guy had almost the exact same name as a wrestler and posted it in a wrestling thread! Good Times.

haha the article has now been retracted and the editorial board are very embarassed, and even better the guy has been suspended from his PhD pending a police investigation. I don't fancy his chances if they choose to check his hard drive.

What a way to utterly torpedo your own career lmfao.

Meanwhile he hasn't even locked down his twitter account, which, well, wow.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

distortion park posted:

You'd think their core demographic would be up for a bit of rationing or something given how much they bang on about the wartime etc, but yours seems to be their actual policy preference

Bear in mind one would have to be approaching their 80s to even remember rationing as a child. The British disease is being absolutely dead sure you lived through the Blitz when you were born in '57.

Sanford
Jun 30, 2007

...and rarely post!


team overhead smash posted:

I think it’s implied that it’s what came first the chicken or the chicken egg.

Which begs the question is a chicken egg a chicken egg because:

1) It was laid by a chicken.
Or
2) A chicken hatched from it.

As per Jurassic Park - the dinosaurs hatch from alligator eggs - an egg is defined by what laid it, not what hatches from it, so the chicken came before the chicken egg.

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

Bear in mind one would have to be approaching their 80s to even remember rationing as a child. The British disease is being absolutely dead sure you lived through the Blitz when you were born in '57.

My dad is 72 and remembers a few things being rationed. Sweets, I think? Edit: he doesn’t remember the blitz and is not keen on rationing.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

ThomasPaine posted:

haha the article has now been retracted and the editorial board are very embarassed, and even better the guy has been suspended from his PhD pending a police investigation. I don't fancy his chances if they choose to check his hard drive.

What a way to utterly torpedo your own career lmfao.

Meanwhile he hasn't even locked down his twitter account, which, well, wow.

IIRC, his previous work made it clear that he viewed mainstreaming child pornography as his real career anyway. Manchester University was just his latest vehicle.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

ThomasPaine posted:

haha the article has now been retracted and the editorial board are very embarassed, and even better the guy has been suspended from his PhD pending a police investigation. I don't fancy his chances if they choose to check his hard drive.

What a way to utterly torpedo your own career lmfao.

Meanwhile he hasn't even locked down his twitter account, which, well, wow.

Poor guy became a paedophile for the same reasons I'm thinking about getting into Hillwalking groups, to get me out of the house and meeting people.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Rationing ended 6-8 years before I was born so my parents would have been mid-teens at that time. It was quite fresh in their memories. Mum's 84 now.

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Aug 26, 2022

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

OwlFancier posted:

I think honestly for the kind of people who mostly buy cookers, i.e landlords and homeowners, the idea of an all in one great big sheet metal thing with a massive void over the hobs and included splashback is pretty unappealing. Everyone wants the fancy tile or brushed steel splashbacks built into the wall, with an extractor hood. Having the cooker, grill, splashback and extractor all be the same appliance sounds like a recipe for trouble if one of them breaks and doesn't at all work with fitted kitchens of varying heights.

Yeah, homeowners like me who don't give a poo poo about a fitted kitchen (since mine is like 8' by 8' and I have any number of things I'd rather spend my derisory wages on anyway) are apparently nonexistent these days. I do like that salamander though, but I need a standalone cooker so it's no good.

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Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post


The Express had a screamy article yesterday, "Macron slaps Britons abroad in France with eye-watering new tax due to EU law" which turned out to be about rent freezes on houses in the lowest energy efficiency bands. Trying to provoke war with France as the latest distraction tactic?

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