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cinci zoo sniper posted:Stop shitposting. No jokes allowed on these here comedy forums
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 16:08 |
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Judgy Fucker posted:No jokes allowed on these here comedy forums If they are jokes, they are some of the worse jokes I've read. Of course they aren't jokes, it's just posting without adding anything to the conversation. Similar to the shitposting of this post.
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 16:11 |
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Holy poo poo a talking black pot
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 16:18 |
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Kalit posted:If they are jokes, they are some of the worse jokes I've read. Are spoilers some sort of magic shield where your poo poo post doesn't count?
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 16:25 |
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Part of the reason the FBI was terrified about Trump leaving those 700 pages of documents laying around in a closet is that they had multiple instances of cases like this one: Where a 33-year old Ukrainian-born woman with a Russian passport infiltrated Trump's inner circle at Mar-a-Lago by claiming to be "Anna De Rothschild" a minor relative of the De Rothschild banking family. She was also wanted in Canada for fraud, potential espionage, and other financial crimes. She frequented Mar-a-Lago and was not subject to background checks or traditional security measures. When the FBI arrested her, she had two fake passports (from the US and Canada), a real Russian passport, a real Ukrainian passport, a fake U.S. driver's license, and a fake Canadian driver's license. The U.S. won't say whether she is being investigated for espionage or not, but they did say she was part of a global criminal network of people who were getting close access to wealthy people and politicians. This woman also made her way into the inner circles of Senator Lindsey Graham, Former Missouri Governor Eric Greitens, a Russian billionaire, a Miami CEO, the heads of several major U.S.-based charities, Donald Trump Jr.’s fiancee, Kimberly Guilfoyle, major Trump donor Richard Kofoed, the rapper Ray J, and Italian car designer Horacio Pagani using different fake identities. https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1563179881411686406 quote:PALM BEACH, Fla. — For a time, Anna de Rothschild boasted of her family roots to the European banking dynasty, donning designer clothes, a Rolex watch, and driving a $170,000 black Mercedes-Benz SUV.
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 16:34 |
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Judgy Fucker posted:No jokes allowed on these here comedy forums Funny jokes are allowed.
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 16:35 |
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the redacted trump affidavit has been unsealed and posted to PACER, so anyone can download approximately everyone is trying to download, and because PACER is a 90s-era piece of poo poo, it has crashed and nobody can see it https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1563195430569414656?s=20&t=e_TfyMVOqpLedrcMOQJkBA
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 17:06 |
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Turn off poster names/avatars in this thread for a week for a fun whacky gimmick. Will reports go up or down? What unions will be sundered, what alliances will he broken? Maybe everybody will be nice to each other. Will posters be able to resist cosplaying as their rivals? Anyway I didn't think biden/dems/anybody would cut any band-aid debt relief election checks and address the symptoms of unsustainable higher education systems, nor achieve insufficient climate preservation measures, or even somewhat mitigate a terrible SCOTUS's terrible ruling. I am legitimately sincerely "happy to be wrong", and I would be super "happy to be wrong" to endure the complicated chain of "happy to be wrong"s it will take to meaningfully solve any of the issues of perilous urgency that we face. I will gladly eat all these loving hats if that future somehow comes to be.
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 17:07 |
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I was able to review the memorandum that the DOJ filed to justify their redactions. It is mostly redacted, but it has a table describing the reasons each paragraph in the affidavit (which I cannot yet access) was redacted: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.617854/gov.uscourts.flsd.617854.98.1_3.pdf Virtually every single entry on that table is redacted, except for the parts that disclose they redacted the name of the agent for their safety. So, uh, don't expect to see much in the affidavit itself.
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 17:12 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:If you're going to write in someone with no chance of winning, then you should write in something funnier so you can be on the news if they do a recount. Like the "Lizard People" guy that Al Franken's campaign fought (successfully) to get counted. I shall be writing in the honorable Harry S. Crotum
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 17:13 |
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They don’t have
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 17:15 |
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haveblue posted:They don’t have but they are willing to explain just how juicy the stuff they won't explain is https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/1563197715084742658?s=20&t=cmf_7rANXhpFRSh_fD8S-A
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 17:15 |
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Listening to reporting on the toob. Multiple witnesses and informants. Lots of birds singing it sounds like.
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 17:19 |
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Yiggy posted:Listening to reporting on the toob. Multiple witnesses and informants. Lots of birds singing it sounds like. if they have a copy of the unsealed affidavit, they're the only ones
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evilweasel posted:but they are willing to explain just how juicy the stuff they won't explain is Quick, copy and paste the black lines into notepad
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 17:23 |
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evilweasel posted:if they have a copy of the unsealed affidavit, they're the only ones Maybe a bunch of government background reporting that was embargoed until the redacted affidavit was released
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 17:25 |
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Tiny Timbs posted:Quick, copy and paste the black lines into notepad i tried already on the redaction explanations, they did it right. it looks like they may have redacted it multiple times just to be very very sure. it is always very funny when they don't, though
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 17:26 |
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affidavit here: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.617854/gov.uscourts.flsd.617854.102.1.pdf edit: the government knew there were 15 boxes ahead of time is the first juicy thing I see edit edit: nevermind these are the 15 boxes that were returned evilweasel fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Aug 26, 2022 |
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quote:From May 16-18, 2022, FBI agents conducted a prelimina1y review of the (this is stuff that was returned previously)
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 17:30 |
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there's basically nothing useful in the redacted affidavit aside from the stuff about what was already returned, which I posted above, aside from that they were previewing "we declassified everything lol" argument before the raid but they do seem to have known where the documents were: quote:Based upon this investigation, I believe that the STORAGE ROOM, FPOTUS's
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 17:33 |
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Not a ton of new stuff, most everything juicy is redacted. Here's what I've got from it so far: - There are multiple witnesses/snitches at Mar-a-Lago. - They have convened a grand jury for some evidence. - They believe Trump, or someone else there, has undertaken "efforts used to unlawfully collect, retain, and disseminate sensitive government information, including classified NDI." - The FBI sent A LOT of angry letters to Trump to secure the documents, give them back, or be honest about how many he had. He ignored most of them and pretended he had given all of them up. The FBI didn't believe him and knew there were additional boxes and documents. - Trump's lawyers wrote the FBI threatening to scream that any movement they make will be viewed as political and they will personally put in effort to convince the public that any accusation or action is political if they don't back off.
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 17:34 |
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apparently the reference to "HCS" data in the boxes returned to NARA means that Trump had documents that would identify human intelligence sources (i.e. spies, i.e. people who would get shot if identified) sitting around at mar-a-lago and that's just what he gave back
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:
Is the "and" here significant, or just wholesale quoting from some statute or something?
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ColdPie posted:Is the "and" here significant, or just wholesale quoting from some statute or something? I'd need to find that in the relevant filing, but the "and" there sounds significant as written because you cannot write that sentence without a reason to believe Trump is doing ALL of those three things (including "disseminate")
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SourKraut posted:I shall be writing in the honorable Harry S. Crotum I use Dickens Cider, personally.
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ColdPie posted:Is the "and" here significant, or just wholesale quoting from some statute or something? He's not necessarily saying that Trump did all three of things. But, he is saying those three things are what his expertise is in, that is what is defined as illicit activity in the statute, and based on his expertise he believes that the threshold of the statute is met and asks for the search warrant.
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 18:01 |
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evilweasel posted:apparently the reference to "HCS" data in the boxes returned to NARA means that Trump had documents that would identify human intelligence sources (i.e. spies, i.e. people who would get shot if identified) sitting around at mar-a-lago
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 18:08 |
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Biden's behavior in the past ~3 months really speaks of one major thing now. He and his administration have come to understand that the MAGA train has effectively destroyed the republican party's ability to effectively fight back against any of his plans with legislation or voting power. The GOP ended up tying itself to what's become a more and more extremist radical agenda that turned out to not float with most mainstream republican voters. In a way, they've isolated themselves, in a really really bad way. The recent voting behavior shows that all that terrible extremist poo poo is causing republicans to lose votes, lose funding, and will probably cause them to lose seats come midterms. As well, and maybe most importantly, Biden has found it completely obvious that the MAGA train is smaller in size than it seems, may be super vocal on social media, but in the end is really all bark no bite. They're powerless and incapable of raising a finger to actually fight back or affect legislation. So Biden is just getting anything and everything passed right now. Loan forgiveness, DACA, maybe codifying Roe, maybe even weed legalization. He's also calling a spade a spade over and over, and just vivisected the MAGA crowd and any associated GOP politicians during his speech yesterday. The white house twitter account going to war in a hilarious way is rad in its own right. It's all just them knowing they can dunk hard because the republicans have totally hosed up. Even if, right now, the GOP completely denounced trump and MAGA, such a schism would cause such loud blowback from the extremist 30% and such loss of voting excitement in their mainstream blocs that it would hurt them even more. The mainstream republican congress (ie the non "performance artists" like MTG and such) have had their organs ripped out by the effects of the MAGA train and I don't think its even close to rock bottom for them yet. Biden is firing on all thrusters and walking all over them right now unopposed and it really owns.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Not a ton of new stuff, most everything juicy is redacted. It's seeming more like Trump just kept the documents to force a confrontation and fund-raise off of feigned martyrdom at this point.
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 18:13 |
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Mercury_Storm posted:It's seeming more like Trump just kept the documents to force a confrontation and fund-raise off of feigned martyrdom at this point. Too much credit. The dude's a deeply broken, astonishingly lazy malignant narcissist. There was no plan. The toddler saw a shiny thing, wanted it, and kept it. No further thought went in to any of this. I want it, I'm keeping it, gently caress you make me give it back.
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bird food bathtub posted:Too much credit. The dude's a deeply broken, astonishingly lazy malignant narcissist. There was no plan. The toddler saw a shiny thing, wanted it, and kept it. No further thought went in to any of this. I want it, I'm keeping it, gently caress you make me give it back. I'm personally just waiting for some hard evidence to be uncovered for my theory that he was channeling the gossiping slumlord that is his core being and piling up blackmail material that nobody else would have access to, and in the process some nuclear info papers slid off a counter and into the box.
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Epic High Five posted:I'm personally just waiting for some hard evidence to be uncovered for my theory that he was channeling the gossiping slumlord that is his core being and piling up blackmail material that nobody else would have access to, and in the process some nuclear info papers slid off a counter and into the box. Not only was he actually reading these papers, but he was taking notes. He wouldn't be doing that if he was just going to hand the whole box off to a spy somewhere. He wanted to know what was in those papers himself - and this is from a guy who's notorious for not reading things. https://twitter.com/obarcala/status/1563208189591429124
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Main Paineframe posted:Not only was he actually reading these papers, but he was taking notes. He wouldn't be doing that if he was just going to hand the whole box off to a spy somewhere. He wanted to know what was in those papers himself - and this is from a guy who's notorious for not reading things.
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SubG posted:Is there something that suggests that the notes were made after the papers were filched? As opposed to suggesting that he just grabbed every piece of paper he'd doodled on when he was stripping the White House on his way out the door? No. Unlikely you'd be able to determine that easily anyway.
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 18:48 |
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bird food bathtub posted:Too much credit. The dude's a deeply broken, astonishingly lazy malignant narcissist. There was no plan. The toddler saw a shiny thing, wanted it, and kept it. No further thought went in to any of this. I want it, I'm keeping it, gently caress you make me give it back. Yeah, Trump is not the type of person to ever admit that he has something that he actually isn't supposed to have. No matter how clear-cut the case is, and no matter how important it actually is to him on a personal level. He'd sooner nuke the world than voluntarily give up anything to anyone.
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Mercury_Storm posted:It's seeming more like Trump just kept the documents to force a confrontation and fund-raise off of feigned martyrdom at this point. My theory, lacking any proof but I like it, is that he was just grabbing whatever he could hoping to sell it off. He was told "don't do that" and instead of just returning the stuff did what he always does and act like a sugar addled toddler throwing a temper tantrum because he was told no.
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 19:08 |
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"I want these boxes to look at for my own amusement/as keepsake treasures of my victory" "No. You have to give them back." "Ah well I can use these as part of my strategy of looking like a victim, and employ every sleazy landlord legal strategy I can think of to keep them anyway, since my legal team is down to similar moron scumbags anyway"
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 19:19 |
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somebody please commission ben garrison to draw a political cartoon of a tiny bernie sanders controlling joe biden by the hair ala ratatouilleSodomy Hussein posted:"I want these boxes to look at for my own amusement/as keepsake treasures of my victory"
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# ? Aug 26, 2022 19:26 |
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Blind Rasputin posted:Biden's behavior in the past ~3 months really speaks of one major thing now. He and his administration have come to understand that the MAGA train has effectively destroyed the republican party's ability to effectively fight back against any of his plans with legislation or voting power. The GOP ended up tying itself to what's become a more and more extremist radical agenda that turned out to not float with most mainstream republican voters. In a way, they've isolated themselves, in a really really bad way. The recent voting behavior shows that all that terrible extremist poo poo is causing republicans to lose votes, lose funding, and will probably cause them to lose seats come midterms. As well, and maybe most importantly, Biden has found it completely obvious that the MAGA train is smaller in size than it seems, may be super vocal on social media, but in the end is really all bark no bite. They're powerless and incapable of raising a finger to actually fight back or affect legislation. So Biden is just getting anything and everything passed right now. Loan forgiveness, DACA, maybe codifying Roe, maybe even weed legalization. He's also calling a spade a spade over and over, and just vivisected the MAGA crowd and any associated GOP politicians during his speech yesterday. The white house twitter account going to war in a hilarious way is rad in its own right. It's all just them knowing they can dunk hard because the republicans have totally hosed up. Even if, right now, the GOP completely denounced trump and MAGA, such a schism would cause such loud blowback from the extremist 30% and such loss of voting excitement in their mainstream blocs that it would hurt them even more. The mainstream republican congress (ie the non "performance artists" like MTG and such) have had their organs ripped out by the effects of the MAGA train and I don't think its even close to rock bottom for them yet. As much as I like the recent Ws, we really really cannot get cocky and declare victory before midterms. MAGA is mainstream Republicanism now, and is far from powerless.
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Neo_Crimson posted:As much as I like the recent Ws, we really really cannot get cocky and declare victory before midterms. MAGA is mainstream Republicanism now, and is far from powerless. Agreed. Who knows how economic trends shape up between now and November? Jerome Powell just caused a big market drop by stating that the Fed is not convinced that inflation is under control enough to start phasing out interest rate hikes.
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