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domhal
Dec 30, 2008


0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself *sad*. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/aug/29/horrible-winter-lies-ahead-next-pm-inherit-nhs-knees-crisis
‘A horrible winter lies ahead’: next PM will inherit an NHS on its knees

quote:

Jeremy Hunt, the chair of the health and social care committee, is equally concerned. “The new PM will inherit an NHS facing the most serious crisis in its history,” he warns. “A&Es, ambulances, general practice and social care are in serious peril across the country.”

LMAO how did it get that way Jeremy?

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Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face
Musing that sometimes it's a little unclear whether people are using "Tories" to refer to Tory MPs, members of the Conservative Party or people who vote Conservative.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Maugrim posted:

Musing that sometimes it's a little unclear whether people are using "Tories" to refer to Tory MPs, members of the Conservative Party or people who vote Conservative.

They're all tories, some of them are paid to be tories.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

OwlFancier posted:

The smarter ones might correctly deduce that a degree of public services are necessary to stop society collapsing and them no longer having a pile to be on top of, but the tory leadership has been progressively burning through the passably intelligent ones and we are now left with the absolute stupidest and most unhinged they can dredge up.
Funniest are the ideologues who are so opposed to public spending and taxation that they boast about their private health insurance, private guards on their gated community, and private pension / 401k; paying profit-making companies ten times what they would in taxes to a properly funded government.

Except they don't pay it because they list it as a donation from the non-profit their accountant set up in the caymans, or whatever tax loophole they get to use for being rich.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Darth Walrus posted:

Water quality in England and Wales was a horrorshow unique within the continent even a year before Brexit. The idea that we aren't going to get a flood (ahem) of lethal tap water scandals as our already-crumbling water infrastructure gets steadily more toxic seems like far more wishful thinking.

Have you got a source on this? or are you talking rivers etc? Cos those sure, they are in an awful state. But as far as I'm aware tap water in the UK is pretty good, generally regarded as some of the best in europe.

stev posted:

They're all tories, some of them are paid to be tories.

Then lots of them drink tap water.

Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Aug 29, 2022

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Funniest are the ideologues who are so opposed to public spending and taxation that they boast about their private health insurance, private guards on their gated community, and private pension / 401k; paying profit-making companies ten times what they would in taxes to a properly funded government.

Except they don't pay it because they list it as a donation from the non-profit their accountant set up in the caymans, or whatever tax loophole they get to use for being rich.

I think the point for them is honestly they need to see other people having-not in order to feel like they have. It's not enough to simply have a good quality of life, there needs to be a lot of people to look down on.

Lady Demelza
Dec 29, 2009



Lipstick Apathy
Do you remember the time when people were chucking milkshakes over pro-Brexit politicians? I do, every time I read an article about politicians who voted to allow sewage to be dumped in rivers. Except not milkshakes.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
You can get a complete reverse osmosis unit for 80 quid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPdzLJWb4R8

Poor water quality will be something that only directly affects the poorest and those precarious rental accommodation, while costing the masses a bit more money every year, benefiting the bold innovators selling them by a bit, and benefiting water executives a lot.

That's completely aside from if they're using wastewater reclamation, standard treatment, desalination, dowsing, hydromancy, or cold fusion.

It would be very bad, it would kill people at the people at the bottom, while everyone else is

Bobby Deluxe posted:

paying profit-making companies ten times what they would in taxes to a properly funded government

"Be your own water treatment plant" is a bad proposition all round, but I'm not sure that's enough to stop it given to material benefit to bold disruptors and decaying infrastructure.

Shakespearean Beef
Jul 12, 2008

Ask me all about how I proudly marched alongside literal NEO-NAZIS to protest against the GOVERNMENT taking away our FREEDOMS because of nothing mote that the common FLU!!! I'm holding aloft the TORCH of FREEDOM!!

Lady Demelza posted:

Do you remember the time when people were chucking milkshakes over pro-Brexit politicians? I do, every time I read an article about politicians who voted to allow sewage to be dumped in rivers. Except not milkshakes.

go do it then

Lady Demelza
Dec 29, 2009



Lipstick Apathy
My local MP uses the same definition of 'local' that Ryanair does.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

OwlFancier posted:

Being lazy is a full time commitment if you're good at it.

It's lucky that 'self help singh' is on the case then :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8An2SxNFvmU

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

domhal posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/aug/29/horrible-winter-lies-ahead-next-pm-inherit-nhs-knees-crisis
‘A horrible winter lies ahead’: next PM will inherit an NHS on its knees

LMAO how did it get that way Jeremy?

so we’re actually forced to privatise it to save it you see

Halisnacks
Jul 18, 2009

Maugrim posted:

Musing that sometimes it's a little unclear whether people are using "Tories" to refer to Tory MPs, members of the Conservative Party or people who vote Conservative.

I regret to say that I have spent time with both (i) Tory voters and (ii) Tory members. The latter are worse by an order of magnitude.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Halisnacks posted:

I regret to say that I have spent time with both (i) Tory voters and (ii) Tory members. The latter are worse by an order of magnitude.

I saw an article the other day where one of them was boo-hooing about being stereotyped as a weirdo loony, just for being a member of the party which [gestures at everything]

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

Bobstar posted:

I saw an article the other day where one of them was boo-hooing about being stereotyped as a weirdo loony, just for being a member of the party which [gestures at everything]

In that vein, I came across this today:

https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1564202925068623874?s=20&t=CHe7_63Yd0wUfxMM4-sYbw

One of the most amazing twitter threads I've seen in a while; just a string of terminal lib-brain JAQ-ing off about how "isn't it extraordinary how the tolerant left don't want to be in close personal relationships with conservatives?"

https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1564205536421224448?s=20&t=CHe7_63Yd0wUfxMM4-sYbw

"Methinks it so strange that you, who professes to be tolerant, won't tolerate intolerant people...this is mysterious and I am very clever :thunk:"

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

BalloonFish posted:

In that vein, I came across this today:
:wow: he kept digging.

https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1564228971016880128

I wonder what values he believes are strongly predicted by race. A minority group is more likely to be antiracist than a majority one, that's just called having skin in the game, but beyond that you end up going straight into "Black people believe X and..."

https://twitter.com/Hal_Duncan/status/1564264704918568961

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Is chucking a milkshake at a MP now considereda terrorism that'll get you sent to a hole in Rwanda?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Chucking a milkshake is now illegal because it wastes precious moisture.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Microplastics posted:

Chucking a milkshake is now illegal because it wastes precious moisture.

Only those who have read the first three Dune books will be allowed stillsuits. :colbert:

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice

Just Another Lurker posted:

Only those who have read the first three Dune books will be allowed stillsuits. :colbert:

What do we get if we sat through the SciFi channel TV adaptation

McFlurry Fan #1
Dec 31, 2005

He can't kill me. I'm indestructible. Everybody knows that

domhal posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/aug/29/horrible-winter-lies-ahead-next-pm-inherit-nhs-knees-crisis
‘A horrible winter lies ahead’: next PM will inherit an NHS on its knees

LMAO how did it get that way Jeremy?

We're just going to have to explain to every patient that comes in with various cold and malnutrition related illnesses that they should really be working harder and trust that our betters in big business have got our best interests at heart.

In all seriousness it's going to be first come first served once it gets even slightly cold because no fuckers house is going to be habitable and care jobs are still working poverty jobs - and trust me even the posh cunts who can pay for private carers are going to have a shock when can't advertise for one of the local poors to care for their relative for £8 an hour or whatever.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

McFlurry Fan #1 posted:

We're just going to have to explain to every patient that comes in with various cold and malnutrition related illnesses that they should really be working harder and trust that our betters in big business have got our best interests at heart.

In all seriousness it's going to be first come first served once it gets even slightly cold because no fuckers house is going to be habitable and care jobs are still working poverty jobs - and trust me even the posh cunts who can pay for private carers are going to have a shock when can't advertise for one of the local poors to care for their relative for £8 an hour or whatever.

We've got a woodburner so have been spending some time at the local woods grabbing stuff to burn, we only take fallen stuff thats dried.

A top tip is to get an electric chainsaw, beats the piss outta a screaming 2 stroke.. we use a dewalt & one battery will cut enough to fill the car.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
They've pulled Liz from her interview with Nick Robinson.

I assume because they think she'll crumble.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Wonder what kitchen appliance she will hide inside to avoid reporters.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

xtothez posted:

What do we get if we sat through the SciFi channel TV adaptation

Your water will be shared with the tribe

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

xtothez posted:

What do we get if we sat through the SciFi channel TV adaptation

A body shield (not to used near lasers, Shai-Hulud or Liberal Democrats). ;)

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Trainee PornStar posted:

We've got a woodburner so have been spending some time at the local woods grabbing stuff to burn, we only take fallen stuff thats dried.

A top tip is to get an electric chainsaw, beats the piss outta a screaming 2 stroke.. we use a dewalt & one battery will cut enough to fill the car.

Wood poacher. Verdict: guilty. Sentence: Chop his hands off with his electric chainsaw.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

serious gaylord posted:

They've pulled Liz from her interview with Nick Robinson.

I assume because they think she'll crumble.

When I apply for jobs and they offer me an interview, I decline it saying, no I think this will only harm my chances, go on what you already have.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

Wonder what kitchen appliance she will hide inside to avoid reporters.
Caught trying to hide in a soda stream.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Blender would be better

Ouroboros
Apr 23, 2011
Anyone got a simple rundown of all jk Rowlings insanity in one place? I saw one a while back but I can’t find it now

Umbra Dubium
Nov 23, 2007

The British Empire was built on cups of tea, and if you think I'm going into battle without one, you're sorely mistaken!



OwlFancier posted:

Wonder what kitchen appliance she will hide inside to avoid reporters.

She will pretend to be a photo of herself petting the dulux dog.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Did Bojo leave office yet? Or is he just pulling a stealth Trump coup or something?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


TulliusCicero posted:

Did Bojo leave office yet? Or is he just pulling a stealth Trump coup or something?

He won't leave office until the Tories elect a new leader, and that should be 5th September

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Ouroboros posted:

Anyone got a simple rundown of all jk Rowlings insanity in one place? I saw one a while back but I can’t find it now

You just need to check out her later books, and then her Twitter account, it's all good stuff. (You shouldn't actually check out either, and none of the stuff is good)

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

TulliusCicero posted:

Did Bojo leave office yet? Or is he just pulling a stealth Trump coup or something?

he's cranking his hog on a beach in Greece, saying 'wow such a shame all that stuff going on back home, if only I was in a position to do anything about it. oh well time for another strenuous red-faced wank!'

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1564168390196985856

oh dear what a shame, who could have thought he would do such a thing

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


OwlFancier posted:

https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1564168390196985856

oh dear what a shame, who could have thought he would do such a thing

Wow, are there no depths Jeremy Corbyn won't go to?

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
If you're wondering about keeping the heating off this winter and concerned about mould, here's a couple of charts for you:

A. Relative Humidity v Temp (sadly in F)

To convert F to C use the formula C= (5/9)*(F-32)

To nearest .5C:

60F = 15.5C, 65F = 18.5C, 70F = 21C, 75F = 24C, 80F = 26.5C, 85F = 29.5C

Example: your indoor temp is 15.5C, it's raining so relative humidity 90% = 3 or 4 days to mould on wood in a crawl space. The PI is paper preservation and I'm not sure how to interpret that other than lower numbers are worse and your papers will probably get mouldy too. (NB - I stand to be corrected on this if someone has knowledge of this area!)



For the above chart:

quote:

There are often many factors and measures in science where knowing a few allows you to determine others. With Temperature and Relative Humidity you can determine Dew Point of air, Preservation Index of paper, “Days to Mold” of wood, and finally, Equilibrium Moisture Content of wood, respectively. 100% of the above information was laboriously extracted from DPCalc.org which has a good thing going, but people tend to stick between 60F – 80F (with their living conditions) and tolerate rough math at an increasingly delightful rate, and are quite happy with a 1-pager that fully encompasses all the environmental conditions a seasoned building scientist who travels the globe will encounter. Each chart goes from “No-Risk” to “everything you have is garbage in 3 days”. Thank you google for making the Stetten Home Services “Mold-Chart” the number 1 google result on earth.


B. Relative Humidity v Temp (C)




I know some of you have got dehumidifiers, but I just read that they start to become less efficient under 18C and don't function below 10C.

I have lived in a flat where the indoors in unheated areas was 9C in winter (in Cairo as it happens) and that is very bloody cold and Brits saying 'oh but it's 2C here - not in your bloody home it isn't).

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Aug 30, 2022

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winegums
Dec 21, 2012


Hard not to feel utterly despondent at everything that's going on.

Energy companies just hiking prices with no end in sight.
Inflation careening through the roof.
Government refusing to do anything
Opposition parties also refusing to do anything.
Everyone is striking everywhere (which is fine, but the causes of strikes are very bad).

Feels like electoral politics has utterly failed to deal with any of the issues facing us. Everything Corbyn tried to put in policies against has come together in an awful shitshow. And nobody wants to learn these lessons, if anything they're memory-holing everything he did and everything they did to discredit him.

I don't know what's worse, the anticipated misery of this winter, or the inevitable indifference of everyone important.

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