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Explosionface posted:Yeah, even just looking at device manage, you see USB Host Controller. Yeah but main and secondary absolutely don't mean anything close to master and slave in any other context, so that sucks. Not to mention you'll often have a main and secondary slave (or whatever you decide to call it) thing.
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Flipperwaldt posted:I've never in my life heard that applied to usb. It's always been usb host and usb device as far as I've seen. If nothing else, it's an established alternative, if you were looking for one. Right, that's undeniably a lot better. I'll change it.
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Master and puppets
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It seems that industry protocols moved on from that nomenclature in the 90's - see Modbus serial master/slave vs Modbus/TCP server/client. Same with DNP3 serial vs DNP3 over Ethernet.
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We should name them like quarks.
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Strange Dom Charm Sub Up Bottom Down Top
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up bottom down top that's the way we like to snop
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TotalLossBrain posted:It seems that industry protocols moved on from that nomenclature in the 90's - see Modbus serial master/slave vs Modbus/TCP server/client. I deal with a lot of modbus and bacnet over 485, which explains where I come from. I like the manager/subordinate idea, so I think I'm stealing it.
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Explosionface posted:I deal with a lot of modbus and bacnet over 485, which explains where I come from. I haven't had to use 485 in so long.
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Thomamelas posted:I haven't had to use 485 in so long. I just used it today, installing a brand new system. At least we finally switched to Ethernet cable ends.
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Nocheez posted:I just used it today, installing a brand new system. At least we finally switched to Ethernet cable ends. Isn't that EIA-485? RJ45 connectors are going to be the obsolete tech at my job, not nearly soon enough. I think we are replacing them with M12 connectors.
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RS-485 to USB through an adapter. Still only using 4 wires.
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Horace posted:I bought a new TV, didn't even occur to me to check what inputs it had. I just assumed it'd have loads, and it only has HDMI. Had to buy a new DVD player off eBay because the old one was SCART. I haven't seen a SCART input on new televisions for years now, most I've seen only have a single composite in for legacy devices. Honestly, I'm glad we're finally rid of that obsolete and failed tech. I remember having to reach out behind the massive 16:9 CRT to change leads and the fuckers would never align right without having to move the entire set to get all close and personal behind there.
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A lot of poo poo breaks the A/B Host/Device dichotomy, so saying it "should" be a certain way is, at best, expressing a wish that the universe operate with some sense. I know my 8bitdo arcade stick does A to A when hooked up over USB.
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USB A to A cables are explicitly against the USB specification even though people make them and use them for some reason. If people are blatantly breaking the spec then all bets are off anyway. edit: USB On the Go was originally designed so that an OTG device has a micro B socket on it that is turned into a type A socket with an adapter. That way there's still an A to B cable in the mix. C to C is the only type of USB cable that is supposed to have the same plug on both ends under the spec. edit 2: And it's still "host" and "device" depending on which device is acting as such regardless of the cables BattleMaster has a new favorite as of 17:18 on Aug 31, 2022 |
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Horace posted:I bought a new TV, didn't even occur to me to check what inputs it had. I just assumed it'd have loads, and it only has HDMI. Had to buy a new DVD player off eBay because the old one was SCART. I still have my small collection of DVDs, but really just for sentimental reasons. The last time I recall actually watching one was... probably about 10 years ago? To watch one today, I'd have to go find the USB DVD drive that I know is in my computer parts pile, plug that into a laptop or something, and connect from there into the TV's HDMI input. And depending on the relative obscurity of whatever it is I want to watch, it's honestly a toss-up whether I could do that any faster than I could just torrent it and pop it onto the Plex server. Come to think of it, exactly this situation happened just this summer, when I wanted to find a particular Star Trek episode. It was right up there on the DVD shelf but it didn't even occur to me to rig up a way to play it; I went straight to the high seas and had the episode I wanted (in Blu-Ray quality, even) in minutes.
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For some reason, I still prefer being able to go to my shelf, grab a disc, pop it in the slot on my Xbox and press play.
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Bargearse posted:For some reason, I still prefer being able to go to my shelf, grab a disc, pop it in the slot on my Xbox and press play. Downloading update ..... 6 hours remaining
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Arrath posted:Downloading update ..... 6 hours remaining gently caress you for reminding me of that 
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Powered Descent posted:I still have my small collection of DVDs, but really just for sentimental reasons. The last time I recall actually watching one was... probably about 10 years ago? To watch one today, I'd have to go find the USB DVD drive that I know is in my computer parts pile, plug that into a laptop or something, and connect from there into the TV's HDMI input. And depending on the relative obscurity of whatever it is I want to watch, it's honestly a toss-up whether I could do that any faster than I could just torrent it and pop it onto the Plex server. I'm part of a Discord server that streams out of print/old movies and one of my gimmicks is streaming Laserdiscs live including angles of the player complete with lense assembly rotating around the LDs to get to side two.
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https://twitter.com/frogmut/status/1565046477327581189?s=20&t=tjZhGOWfiF8-NRAa9603iQ
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barbecue at the folks posted:I haven't seen a SCART input on new televisions for years now, most I've seen only have a single composite in for legacy devices. Honestly, I'm glad we're finally rid of that obsolete and failed tech. I remember having to reach out behind the massive 16:9 CRT to change leads and the fuckers would never align right without having to move the entire set to get all close and personal behind there. Obsolete, yes, but not failed. Scart was THE connector in Europe for over twenty years, and it was good, with some nice features like auto source switching and wake from standby. Plus it was good for cable management to only have one wire between TV-vcr-cable box etc. The plugs were awful though - enormous but also somehow impossible to get into the socket blind, and quite difficult to seat properly. Powered Descent posted:I still have my small collection of DVDs, but really just for sentimental reasons. The last time I recall actually watching one was... probably about 10 years ago? To watch one today, I'd have to go find the USB DVD drive that I know is in my computer parts pile, plug that into a laptop or something, and connect from there into the TV's HDMI input. And depending on the relative obscurity of whatever it is I want to watch, it's honestly a toss-up whether I could do that any faster than I could just torrent it and pop it onto the Plex server. Admittedly, I bought a replacement DVD player with HDMI and connected it but have not actually used it yet. It's been a few months.
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Horace posted:Obsolete, yes, but not failed. Scart was THE connector in Europe for over twenty years, and it was good, with some nice features like auto source switching and wake from standby. Plus it was good for cable management to only have one wire between TV-vcr-cable box etc. The plugs were awful though - enormous but also somehow impossible to get into the socket blind, and quite difficult to seat properly. Yeah, SCART with a centronix plug or whatever would have been the connector to end all connectors up until HDMI.
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All I remember about SCART is that it loving sucked when a plug/socket was getting sloppy in the connection, and it was getting dragged out of the socket by its own weight. Big ol' donkey dick of a cable. e: I remember my parents TV had a lot of scuff marks around the SCART port due to upthread mentioned fumbling with the connector. Oh man, this is bringing up memories!
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European retrogamers on okcupid like "I'm gonna make you SCART"
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old bean factory posted:scuff marks cannot wait until "computer peripherals should be piano black" is obsolete, as it is already failed
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Code Jockey posted:cannot wait until "computer peripherals should be piano black" is obsolete, as it is already failed I miss beige, it's calming to me. If it's possible to make beige plastic again without it being so susceptible to UV over the years, that'd be great.
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The yellowing is like the rings in a tree trunk. It is hard earned
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old bean factory posted:I miss beige, it's calming to me. If it's possible to make beige plastic again without it being so susceptible to UV over the years, that'd be great.
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Yellowing can be removed with hydrogen peroxide and UV light (or the sun)
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Yeah but each time you do it, it casts +5 to embrittlement on whatever you're cleaning.
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gently caress black, beige, and brushed metal, just give me bright plastic in Ferrari red
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barbecue at the folks posted:gently caress black, beige, and brushed metal, just give me bright plastic in Ferrari red HIT BIT
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barbecue at the folks posted:gently caress black, beige, and brushed metal, just give me bright plastic in Ferrari red sexy af
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barbecue at the folks posted:gently caress black, beige, and brushed metal, just give me bright plastic in Ferrari red I don't know that I've ever seen an MSX platform computer that didn't strike me as sexy in some fashion. Some more than others, of course.
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Explosionface posted:I don't know that I've ever seen an MSX platform computer that didn't strike me as sexy in some fashion. Some more than others, of course. You've never seen a Spectravideo ?!?
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