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mycatscrimes posted:The idea that someone who is a minor might be gay or have a same sex crush isn't inherently inappropriate because being gay isn't a fetish, it's not some adults only sex thing. That's seriously scary rhetoric. I definitely experienced crushes on older women as a teen. It shouldn't be seen as any less wholesome or taboo to depict or discuss that than the extremely normal trope of a kid with a heterosexual older crush. (Depicted in a way that acknowledges that it happens not in a way that suggests its age appropriate). 
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mycatscrimes posted:The idea that someone who is a minor might be gay or have a same sex crush isn't inherently inappropriate because being gay isn't a fetish, it's not some adults only sex thing. That's seriously scary rhetoric. I definitely experienced crushes on older women as a teen. It shouldn't be seen as any less wholesome or taboo to depict or discuss that than the extremely normal trope of a kid with a heterosexual older crush. (Depicted in a way that acknowledges that it happens not in a way that suggests its age appropriate). Yeah. The first probe/ban was right and good. The second probe was bad.
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Oh wait I just saw the 'the end' at the bottom of the last page is there no more?
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I feel like the 2nd probe was ok and fine, because A.) it's just a 24hr probe, but more importantly B.) It was said to drop it, and with the way the conversation had been going, it was good to put a kibosh on any romance talk for the comic with a 12 year old girl. It's not about fetishizing being gay, it's about not talking about who kids want to date or have a crush on, especially with the power dynamics in play. It also may have been unintentional, but like saying the BDSM dude had a point is not ok.
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The person also said nothing about a young crush and instead talked about being gay as something that can only happen as an adult, and is not ok either. We were able to discuss this subject respectfully with the Multiverse comic because there was cultural context, and it was pretty explicitly following those themes, saying oh yeah this kid is going to be a super gay adult right after someone talked about how she's such a sub, and her employers such a dom isn't Ok. It wouldn't be Ok to say how badly she'd want to date and how straight she'd be when she grew up either. We shouldn't talk about the romantic inclinations of children right after some weird poo poo came up.
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They weren't saying BDSM dude had a point, they were responding to an earlier conversation about general gay themes in the mangaka's work. Please explain how they 'talked about being gay as something that can only happen as an adult?' I can say 'this seems gay' and mean 'this reminds me of my life experiences with gay feels', not 'this looks like these two characters are about to have sex'
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mycatscrimes posted:They weren't saying BDSM dude had a point, they were responding to an earlier conversation about general gay themes in the mangaka's work. Please explain how they 'talked about being gay as something that can only happen as an adult?' I can say 'this seems gay' and mean 'this reminds me of my life experiences with gay feels', not 'this looks like these two characters are about to have sex' Explain how someone can only be gay once they're an adult. Either something is gay or it's not, age doesn't matter because you're born gay. Adding the age of consent is what inherently makes the difference.
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I do understand the context that the earlier comment was likely on the mod's mind, I'm dislike extending that to punishing an innocuous discussion for the crime of discussing lgbt themes after a creeper got hit.
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A story would or wouldn't be gay not based on the age of the characters but the themes.
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I didn't like the post at all because it implied that gay stories can only be adult stories. e: sorry, I'm treating the forums like a chat and just hitting reply after every thought.
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Perestroika posted:Okay yeah, now I am very much reminded of how somebody pointed out earlier in the thread that this comic would have some serious gay vibes if Shirley were an adult. I went back and checked the comment, and my bad for not remembering the last part, but it still doesn't seem nearly as sinister as you're implying. However, it does change the context enough that I understand more why it was hit, I suppose.
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Boba Pearl posted:I didn't like the post at all because it implied that gay stories can only be adult stories. I suspect we agree on a strong rejection of the idea that gay stories can only be adult stories. Anyway, as I said earlier, I fully cop to being both sensitive and anxious about this subject right now, so I'll step back. Thanks for having this convo with me. mycatscrimes has a new favorite as of 06:01 on Sep 2, 2022 |
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You wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt, and I took it more offensively, that's fine, and I think it's Ok, and I'm glad we could talk it out. E: I'm also being sensitive but from the other direction, I think it was good to have a public discussion. That's what forum boards are all about imo.
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Boba Pearl posted:You wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt, and I took it more offensively, that's fine, and I think it's Ok, and I'm glad we could talk it out. Same to you. I'm enjoying your comic by the way, the colorful art's really fun to look at.
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Everyone has been so nice about it and it makes me ecstatic, I have not had a project make me so happy in a long time.
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Aww Boba  I saw your edit 
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cant cook creole bream posted:Edit: Actually, these guys look a bit scrotumish. Better spoiler that. what the gently caress does your scrotum look like
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BasicLich posted:what the gently caress does your scrotum look like Turn on your monitor
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BrigadierSensible posted:Turn off your monitor
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BrigadierSensible posted:Turn on your monitor
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BrigadierSensible posted:Turn off your monitor
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This idea that you just get to be gay at any age is some serious american libertarian bullshit. Over here in europe you can't even get your learner's permit until at least age 16 and you have to pass both a written and a practical exam before you get your actual license. Even so the costs involved are often prohibitive and many people have to rely on a gay partner or (if you live in the bigger cities) public pride events.
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mycatscrimes posted:The idea that someone who is a minor might be gay or have a same sex crush isn't inherently inappropriate because being gay isn't a fetish, it's not some adults only sex thing. That's seriously scary rhetoric. I definitely experienced crushes on older women as a teen. It shouldn't be seen as any less wholesome or taboo to depict or discuss that than the extremely normal trope of a kid with a heterosexual older crush. (Depicted in a way that acknowledges that it happens not in a way that suggests its age appropriate). ...you know what, you're quite right - and I don't think you're overreacting. Depictions of crushes, especially re. young people and especially re. someone not around their age is always going to be... Controversial? But it being gay shouldn't be one of the qualifying aspects of said controversy. Now, the capitalist exploitation inherent in the read of a crush relationship, THAT I'm fine with saying flat out is controversial.
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Samovar posted:...you know what, you're quite right - and I don't think you're overreacting. I wouldn't have probed that post personally, I briefly considered it and decided not to but I can see why it was. At the end of the day it's only 24 hours for poking at a sore spot so let's move on. If anyone still feels strongly you can shoot a PM to the mod. Also I loled at this post Mr. Sunshine posted:This idea that you just get to be gay at any age is some serious american libertarian bullshit. Over here in europe you can't even get your learner's permit until at least age 16 and you have to pass both a written and a practical exam before you get your actual license. Even so the costs involved are often prohibitive and many people have to rely on a gay partner or (if you live in the bigger cities) public pride events. some plague rats has a new favorite as of 07:47 on Sep 2, 2022 |
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Mr. Sunshine posted:This idea that you just get to be gay at any age is some serious american libertarian bullshit. Over here in europe you can't even get your learner's permit until at least age 16 and you have to pass both a written and a practical exam before you get your actual license. Even so the costs involved are often prohibitive and many people have to rely on a gay partner or (if you live in the bigger cities) public pride events.
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shirley is a lovely comic about a girl being exploited by her landlord forming 244-248 last time: apam cried at a sentient Gender Fortress until it let him in, so that he could hire assassins to kill the ruler of the universe       i fuckin love this upcoming sequence. no arsing around with weird animals or whales, just straight-up batshit character design in a futuristic hell fortress
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Yeah it's just weird that they're drawn like literal toddlers, especially when no-one else is anime is bad
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ChubbyChecker posted:anime is vlad
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Trixie Slaughteraxe for PresidentHempuli posted:Samantha 6  Samantha 12  Samantha 13  Samantha 14  So yeah, as mentioned, the comic has a pretty outdated depiction of mental disorders. :/  Talking character deaths: 15 Deaths altogether: 51+
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Starting to think the order of assassins are kind of jerks!
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Emzedoh posted:
Thought about taking a break from posting DHC and went poking through my folders for something else, accidentally reread Guy Delisle's Shenzhen start to finish, gave up and got another DHC chapter ready. Episode 11: Yoshida, the Slime and a Home Visit Yeah, it's a Yoshida and Senpai chapter.       thetoughestbean posted:Starting to think the order of assassins are kind of jerks! Oh yeah, big ones.
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thetoughestbean posted:Starting to think the order of assassins are kind of jerks! Hey, it's in the name. Twice, even!
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I think it's pretty clear that Perestroika missed the weird post entirely and only remembered the earlier not weird one. Unfortunately since their post didn't make it clear which other post they were referring too, the mod assumed it was the weird one and thus probed them. A slight misunderstanding but at only 24 hours, not a too harmful one. I think we're all on the same page now and it'll be ok.
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alright thanks for deciding that
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CrocodileKingSaysNO posted:Oh wait I just saw the 'the end' at the bottom of the last page is there no more? We've got a few more chapters to go, I certainly wouldn't just post the last chapter and make no mention of that it is.
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When both parts of a couple cheat on each other it cancels out, that's just science.
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