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ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

I like the joke with fry sitting in his room listening to classical music and it's baby got back

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DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

Icon Of Sin posted:

I feel like some futurama episodes should be in here. Not the dog one (that one was too sad even when it aired), but episodes like the Gender Bender or Bend Her. I

The Comedy Central series, for some reason, sort of did a "double down" on the Bend Her episode with Neutopia.

First, an alien makes all the Planet Express crew genderless, but then sees they still are down to clown, so gives them their genders back but gets it "backwards" and is killed by Zapp before he can fix it.

With such biting social commentary jokes on the differences between men and women like these:

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

the renewed episodes were too terrible for me to watch the first time around

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Aug 20, 2010
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MrUnderbridge posted:

SNL did a skit where the joke was that only the common people had phone getting smaller.

"Cammy Diaz has a phone the size of a brick!"

Much like jokes about the ever increasing size of boom boxes (do those still exist?), a tech change reverses what seems like a universal trend.

Ghetto blasters definitely do still exist! Do you still have that collection of Beastie Boys and Alice in Chains cassettes laying around somewhere?



Or maybe you'd like something with a CD player so you can listen to Two Princes on repeat?



Or something a little more modern, with bluetooth?

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012
If u work in a loud warehouse, there is a boombox

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Icon Of Sin posted:

I feel like some futurama episodes should be in here. Not the dog one (that one was too sad even when it aired), but episodes like the Gender Bender or Bend Her. I feel like the writers were going with “Bender will do literally anything to win or make a quick buck”, and idk how they stuck the landing when airing those episodes…but now they just fall flat.

That’s in addition to all the random pop culture stuff whose references are lost on a lot of people now :v:

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BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
Wasn't that just an Ally McBeal joke? Never saw that show though.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
:thejoke:

Especially so since Ally Mcbeal aside from that Futurama reference more or less has passed from the public consciousness even though it was a hit show at the time.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

skooma512 posted:

:thejoke:

Especially so since Ally Mcbeal aside from that Futurama reference more or less has passed from the public consciousness even though it was a hit show at the time.

We've discussed it in this thread in the past, but Ally McBeal did not age well on any level.

David E. Kelley is a very weird creator.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
The dancing baby, however, is timeless.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
Remember when it was a big deal a show put an internet meme in it? Or even referenced internet or video games existing at all?

Now some shows are all ripped off memes, and when they're not doing that, half the show is just watching the character's imessage feed or instagram.

The Drew Carey Show did an entire episode in The Sims 1 it owned.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



skooma512 posted:

The Drew Carey Show did an entire episode in The Sims 1 it owned.

How did I miss that? I need to look that one up.

skooma512 posted:

Remember when it was a big deal a show put an internet meme in it? Or even referenced internet or video games existing at all?

Now some shows are all ripped off memes, and when they're not doing that, half the show is just watching the character's imessage feed or instagram.

It's been brought up before but I still can't believe they did this in 2021.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiRLEfSDaH8

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

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Humerus posted:

One of my favorite early 2000s jokes that doesn't track now is "cell phones are getting too small!" stuff. Futurama definitely did it (I think Amy swallows her phone multiple times) but it was also a gag in Zoolander and I feel like there was some SNL stuff with it too.

Then we got the ability to watch porn on our phones and nothing was big enough.

There was a Ben Elton joke in This Other Eden where the POV character's phone is so small he keeps losing it, which is an intentional design choice so you have to replace them every few months. Pre-dated the invention of Airpods by 23 years.

Elton is a heavy handed writer but he does get a few good shots in.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




ilmucche posted:

I like the joke with fry sitting in his room listening to classical music and it's baby got back

We're only a few decades away from Gin and Juice being considered classical music.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

DrBouvenstein posted:

The Comedy Central series, for some reason, sort of did a "double down" on the Bend Her episode with Neutopia.

First, an alien makes all the Planet Express crew genderless, but then sees they still are down to clown, so gives them their genders back but gets it "backwards" and is killed by Zapp before he can fix it.

With such biting social commentary jokes on the differences between men and women like these:



The war of the sexes poo poo has to be the most dated part of Futurama

Shiroc
May 16, 2009

Sorry I'm late
The relationship with Fry and Leela in the original seasons just keeps getting worse with time. I usually think of that kind of "I'll just keep trying until she says yes" as Urkeling and always hate to see it now that I can recognize it for what it is. Thankfully it seems like that specific pattern has fallen out of newer shows or I just don't watch the ones that still have it.

The high points of the original Futurama seasons were extremely high but it had a lot of junk. It never hit something comparable to Simpsons' absolute peak run where every episode was great.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
boomboxes and tabletop radios still exist and even still have that mysterous aux in/out hole that no one knows does even though they have bluetooth.

also for some reason weather band isnt a standard universal thing, hell even AM gets dropped as a feature in some radios.

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003

PhazonLink posted:



also for some reason weather band isnt a standard universal thing, hell even AM gets dropped as a feature in some radios.

I know I am in the right age for analogue horror because the weather stations always creeped me out.

sweet geek swag
Mar 29, 2006

Adjust lasers to FUN!





Shiroc posted:

The relationship with Fry and Leela in the original seasons just keeps getting worse with time. I usually think of that kind of "I'll just keep trying until she says yes" as Urkeling and always hate to see it now that I can recognize it for what it is. Thankfully it seems like that specific pattern has fallen out of newer shows or I just don't watch the ones that still have it.

The high points of the original Futurama seasons were extremely high but it had a lot of junk. It never hit something comparable to Simpsons' absolute peak run where every episode was great.

Also I think the first two seasons treat Fry and Leela's relationship a little more equally, in that generally he isn't specifically trying to date her so much as find some common ground between the two of them to bond over, and she generally returns his affection to some degree. It's more of a will they/won't they. Then in Season 3 she actually starts dating him when he has the parasites and that ends in disaster. From that point on they are basically exes, and viewed from that lens a lot of his actions are a lot creepier. I think what they were trying to go for was that Fry and Leela would make a good couple except for zany sci-fi disasters coming in between them, but having Leela make so clear as she does in Parasites Lost and Time Keeps on Slippin' that she isn't interested undercuts that badly.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Mooseontheloose posted:

I know I am in the right age for analogue horror because the weather stations always creeped me out.

:same:

Frakas
Mar 6, 2022
futurama was never good hth

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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mandatory lesbian posted:

If u work in a loud warehouse, there is a boombox

I like those ones that are suspended within an incredibly overengineered rigid cage, like it could get dropped from orbit and play Smell Yo Dick without a skip the whole way down.

RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

Mater Dolorosa

skooma512 posted:

Remember when it was a big deal a show put an internet meme in it? Or even referenced internet or video games existing at all?

Now some shows are all ripped off memes, and when they're not doing that, half the show is just watching the character's imessage feed or instagram.

The Drew Carey Show did an entire episode in The Sims 1 it owned.

How is the Drew Carey Show? It's weird how - at least in my circle of family, friends, and online spaces, I've really not heard anyone mention that show in decades, but I seem to recall it being pretty big back in its heyday.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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RoboChrist 9000 posted:

How is the Drew Carey Show? It's weird how - at least in my circle of family, friends, and online spaces, I've really not heard anyone mention that show in decades, but I seem to recall it being pretty big back in its heyday.

I remember it generated a lot of buzz

:v:

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

How is the Drew Carey Show? It's weird how - at least in my circle of family, friends, and online spaces, I've really not heard anyone mention that show in decades, but I seem to recall it being pretty big back in its heyday.

It was ok to watch, but I also watched it 20 years ago when I was a preteen, so idk what I'd think of it now. Had good jokes though, some scenes I still remember and would quote it if you as said, anybody remembered.


Lewis (Ryan Stiles) and Oswald (Diedrich Bader) having a poker game but they're babysitting a garbage bag of cash for reasons I don't recall. Lewis wins every hand simply by flopping the garbage bag on the table and making Oswald fold by not being able to match. This is how the housing market now works.


IIRC there's also issues with the rights so it isn't streaming anywhere and they only released the first season on DVD. Their excuse is music, so :rip:

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

How is the Drew Carey Show? It's weird how - at least in my circle of family, friends, and online spaces, I've really not heard anyone mention that show in decades, but I seem to recall it being pretty big back in its heyday.

There are a lot of shows like this now, but I remember back in the 90s knowing and having seen a lot of decades old shows.

My guess about why was that it had to do with streaming. In some ways streaming makes it easier for people to have access to older shows but I think that only matters for the really good or cult old stuff. You never have a situation where there's nothing on tv so you're like "yeah sure I guess I'll watch Bewitched, it's the only thing on and what else am I gonna do."

I'm surprised no one talks about the OC anymore. That was huge for a while and teen dramas seem to have some kind of staying power in the cultural memory I guess. We all forgot that was a thing real fast.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

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Drew Carey did have full creative rights over the show, so while a lot of it was your standard sitcom fair, there were some genuinely weird stuff like episodes full of mistakes and weird stuff you could write in for a contest, Whose Line is it Anyway crossover eps where large parts are improved, and stuff like that.

https://1900hotdog.com/2021/06/loving-day-ally-mcbeals-rear end-cpr-episode-%F0%9F%8C%AD/

Also with Ally McBeal there's an extra badly aged episode about how fat people don't deserve love, or helped by CPR.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
There's a lot of shows from the late 90s/early 00s that were fairly successful at the time and just up and left realm of media consciousness.

Plus, tons of stuff on the cusp of the 80s/90s that was revolutionary then was basically tame as hell after the Sopranos kickstarted a golden age of TV. Shows like thirtysomething, Northen Exposure, Hill Street Blues, literally never really mentioned or brought up in discussions of media unless its for one extremely specific reason.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Brawnfire posted:

I remember it generated a lot of buzz

:v:



Oh also.



e;
All this aged well tho. Better than most sitcoms.

MariusLecter has a new favorite as of 03:18 on Sep 3, 2022

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

skooma512 posted:

:thejoke:

Especially so since Ally Mcbeal aside from that Futurama reference more or less has passed from the public consciousness even though it was a hit show at the time.

There's a blink and you'll miss is bit in the new She Hulk show, where Ally McBeal is playing on the TV in a bar she walks into.

DontMockMySmock
Aug 9, 2008

I got this title for the dumbest fucking possible take on sea shanties. Specifically, I derailed the meme thread because sailors in the 18th century weren't woke enough for me, and you shouldn't sing sea shanties. In fact, don't have any fun ever.

Vandar posted:

It's been brought up before but I still can't believe they did this in 2021.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiRLEfSDaH8

I'm irrationally mad that they hosed this up. The freeze frame should be before the bad thing happens, not a split second after.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

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Brawnfire posted:

I remember it generated a lot of buzz

:v:

4loko B4 4loko.

2mimi?

Shiroc
May 16, 2009

Sorry I'm late
I watched a bunch of Drew Carey Show episodes a few years ago because it was on one of the weird old syndication channels and I could record it. Some of it aged really badly but there were a lot of jokes that were still great.

It probably didn't help that, other than my early teenage crush Christa Miller, the cast was a bunch of fat or otherwise Hollywood ugly people and the premise was everyone working dead end jobs in Cleveland. Compare that to Friends where everyone is hot and living cool, comfortable lives in Manhattan.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

sweet geek swag posted:

Also I think the first two seasons treat Fry and Leela's relationship a little more equally, in that generally he isn't specifically trying to date her so much as find some common ground between the two of them to bond over, and she generally returns his affection to some degree. It's more of a will they/won't they. Then in Season 3 she actually starts dating him when he has the parasites and that ends in disaster. From that point on they are basically exes, and viewed from that lens a lot of his actions are a lot creepier. I think what they were trying to go for was that Fry and Leela would make a good couple except for zany sci-fi disasters coming in between them, but having Leela make so clear as she does in Parasites Lost and Time Keeps on Slippin' that she isn't interested undercuts that badly.

It's one of those cases where writers just absolutely can't let 'will they or won't they' ever ever ever end. And doesn't help that whole archetype basically created the Nice Guy and in general a generation of young men with genuinely no idea how to approach women romantically besides stalking. Romcoms have a lot to answer for.

Thing is that their relationship does/did have some genuinely good chemistry and themes. I've heard the fun theory that the subtext is, given what we see of Leela's own dating life, is that she has very high standards- she's usually seen on dates with wealthy and successful men. The alien who seemed to own his own planet, the mayor's assistant, even Zapp qualifies. Possibly because she's not wanting to be in the position of being the one rejected. The usual theme, when the writers can keep it straight, seems to be that she does like Fry and enjoys his company, but is turned off by his immaturity, lazy lifestyle and contentment in a dead-end job. (Of course, Fry loves his job, and why wouldn't he? He genuinely likes his co-workers and is friends with them, and he gets paid a moderate amount to go on adventures around the world and in far corners of space) Of course she ends up (almost) marrying Lars, who is literally a more mature Fry.


Shiroc posted:

I watched a bunch of Drew Carey Show episodes a few years ago because it was on one of the weird old syndication channels and I could record it. Some of it aged really badly but there were a lot of jokes that were still great.

It probably didn't help that, other than my early teenage crush Christa Miller, the cast was a bunch of fat or otherwise Hollywood ugly people and the premise was everyone working dead end jobs in Cleveland. Compare that to Friends where everyone is hot and living cool, comfortable lives in Manhattan.

I do remember the episode where Drew wins a ride in the Batmobile, and the ones about how one of his friends works as a janitor in a mad science laboratory. They bring up the Monkeypotamus multiple times!

skooma512 posted:

:thejoke:

Especially so since Ally Mcbeal aside from that Futurama reference more or less has passed from the public consciousness even though it was a hit show at the time.

Kinda funny how Futurama possibly accidentally predicted that given the whole premise of the episode is that literally no one cared about the show's finale enough to preserve it, and even by the standards of the 31st century where Star Trek is vaguely remembered in infamy, it's a footnote utterly lost to history.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Ghost Leviathan posted:

I do remember the episode where Drew wins a ride in the Batmobile, and the ones about how one of his friends works as a janitor in a mad science laboratory. They bring up the Monkeypotamus multiple times!

No no, Drew won the Batmobile itself in a contest. He became it's owner...

...and then had to give it back because he had sex in it and the Batmobile comes with a morality clause. Oops!

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

skooma512 posted:

IIRC there's also issues with the rights so it isn't streaming anywhere and they only released the first season on DVD. Their excuse is music, so :rip:

This is basically the same thing that killed Murphy Brown. Their love of using 70s soul and R&B to the point where it's baked into the scenes meant that it was an extra difficulty for syndication. And that meant that Murphy Brown couldn't maintain audience interest after it wrapped up, which meant that nobody bought it when they actually did take the effort to release it on DVD, which meant that nobody really cared enough to bring it to streaming, which also meant that nobody gave a drat about when they tried to do a revival season.

There's a lot of shows that were actually pretty big, but were so designed for the original airing that they just fell off the face of the earth afterwards because reruns couldn't happen. Murphy Brown was legitimately important in terms of commercial success, landmark storylines and even impacting discourse in American politics, but none of that does crap when it's three years after the series finale and there aren't reruns anywhere.

thiccabod
Nov 26, 2007

Vandar posted:

No no, Drew won the Batmobile itself in a contest. He became it's owner...

...and then had to give it back because he had sex in it and the Batmobile comes with a morality clause. Oops!

Heroes don't do that

Shiroc
May 16, 2009

Sorry I'm late

Cleretic posted:

This is basically the same thing that killed Murphy Brown. Their love of using 70s soul and R&B to the point where it's baked into the scenes meant that it was an extra difficulty for syndication. And that meant that Murphy Brown couldn't maintain audience interest after it wrapped up, which meant that nobody bought it when they actually did take the effort to release it on DVD, which meant that nobody really cared enough to bring it to streaming, which also meant that nobody gave a drat about when they tried to do a revival season.

There's a lot of shows that were actually pretty big, but were so designed for the original airing that they just fell off the face of the earth afterwards because reruns couldn't happen. Murphy Brown was legitimately important in terms of commercial success, landmark storylines and even impacting discourse in American politics, but none of that does crap when it's three years after the series finale and there aren't reruns anywhere.

Wasn't Murphy Brown also incredibly heavily tied to the news of the moment? Like if you wanted to know what the jokes and plots even were supposed to be about you needed to know the dumb thing Dan Quayle had just said?

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



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A bit. But, like most sitcoms, it was really about interpersonal relationships.

Murphy had a live-in house painter plot that had nothing to do with current affairs and all her interactions with her coworkers were about the same. The only thing you'd need to know at-the-time current events for were the 30 seconds you see of her doing her anchorwoman bit.

I mean, technically Frasier was about well educated wealthy socialites who worked in mental health fields. But mostly it was about them being idiots.

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pentyne posted:

There's a lot of shows from the late 90s/early 00s that were fairly successful at the time and just up and left realm of media consciousness.

Plus, tons of stuff on the cusp of the 80s/90s that was revolutionary then was basically tame as hell after the Sopranos kickstarted a golden age of TV. Shows like thirtysomething, Northen Exposure, Hill Street Blues, literally never really mentioned or brought up in discussions of media unless its for one extremely specific reason.

Homicide: Life On the Street is soooo 1991, but it holds up pretty decently. It's based on David Simon's book, so is basically proto-The Wire. Very stacked cast like Andre Braugher, Giancarlo Esposito, Clark Johnson, Richard Belzer, and Yaphet Kotto

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