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It's Elseworlds or whatever but Joker nuked Metropolis in Injustice.
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# ? Aug 27, 2022 19:15 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 13:58 |
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Well that happened almost 4 decades later. The penguin Affair was published in 1990.
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# ? Aug 27, 2022 21:02 |
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Mr Hootington posted:Well that happened almost 4 decades later. The penguin Affair was published in 1990. 3 decades, I'm old, but I'm not that old.
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# ? Aug 28, 2022 01:46 |
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Was the Joker's backstory in The Killing Joke intended to be canon? It's a very absurd story, but then again absurdity is normal in superhero comics. The book doesn't give any indication that it's a bullshit story made to mess with Batman or just some delusion in the Joker's mind.
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# ? Aug 29, 2022 09:43 |
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Kurzon posted:Was the Joker's backstory in The Killing Joke intended to be canon? It's a very absurd story, but then again absurdity is normal in superhero comics. The book doesn't give any indication that it's a bullshit story made to mess with Batman or just some delusion in the Joker's mind. There is the (pretty famous) part where the Joker says to Batman "that sometimes he remembers it one way. Sometimes another. If I am to have a past, I'd rather it be multiple choice." Which has always been interpreted that the Joker can have different origins if a writer wants. Historically even before the Killing Joke, a Batman comic in the 50s had the Joker's origi being that there was a criminal called the Red Hood who committed a series of burglaries before the Batman kicked him into a vat of chemicals, which is why he has the green hair and white skin. But that story didn't have any inclination about him being a failed stand up or the like.
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# ? Aug 29, 2022 10:42 |
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The Question IRL posted:But that story didn't have any inclination about him being a failed stand up or the like. It sounds like the ridiculous sob story a manipulative psychopath might cook up on an impulse. But in this story we don't see the Joker share this story with Batman. Is he lying to himself instead? Or maybe it is real. It's an absurd story but comic book stories are often like that.
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# ? Aug 29, 2022 12:40 |
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It works for me, I like to think of it as his origin. My interpretation of remembering it is that he himself doesn't remember well enough, like some day he might just kinda forget, losing grips with his roots. But we the audience saw it anyway. So we might know even if he doesn't. Also for me while darkly comic and tragic, it doesn't feel too ridiculous. But I'm used to that style since it's used a good bit in 2000AD, Judge Dredd etc, that style mixing absurd and poignant.
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# ? Aug 29, 2022 16:21 |
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I personally like to interpret the joker's origin story as never having a stable base. Every version of it is just another lie, like the different stories the heath ledger version tells in the dark knight. Even he does not remember, because it is simply not important. He is chaos animate. Trying to pin him down and failing - even with his backstory - is just how he operates. You wanting to know and not being able to tell is part of the charm.
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# ? Aug 29, 2022 17:24 |
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When Alan Moore wrote The Killing Joke he didn't think it would be canon.
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# ? Aug 29, 2022 21:13 |
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I know he mentions that in the context of the Barbara Gordon stuff. Since it did end up being canon, I just think it's a nice piece of writing, a fitting (possible) origin for Joker. And I like the idea of the origin being out of the way, and done well by a writer in their prime, so other writers won't be tempted to bring in a new annoying origin (Wolverine style) in the future.
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# ? Aug 29, 2022 22:20 |
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Let me tell you all about the Three Jokers...
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# ? Aug 29, 2022 23:59 |
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Ha oh yeah, that reminds me, I saw mention of the Three Jokers in a preview for Chip Zdarksy's Batman. Is that happening for real, or just a funny reference? I thought that previous thingy might be non-canon.
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# ? Aug 30, 2022 00:10 |
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Three jokers was an interesting premise and would have been better if it ended with golden age joker or the more "jokey" joker surviving instead of the modern mass murderer.
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# ? Aug 30, 2022 00:19 |
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Did the story explain why there were three jokers or who the three jokers were? I am almost intrigued enough to read the story.
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# ? Aug 30, 2022 00:39 |
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Three Jokers is noncanon but the lead up to it in Rebirth is canon, so in the mainline books Batman found out there were three Jokers but has remained entirely uncurious about that fact.
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# ? Aug 30, 2022 00:47 |
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Madkal posted:Did the story explain why there were three jokers or who the three jokers were? I am almost intrigued enough to read the story. Yes it did and you should not spend money on it. It isn't on Infinite, but check out your local library, hoopla, or libby. A lot of people will poo poo on it, but I do think the story had some very good parts. People were offended Johns tried to do a killing joke. Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Aug 30, 2022 |
# ? Aug 30, 2022 00:58 |
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I have been doing a lot of books/comics through the library lately so I'll do this one. Doesn't cost me anything if its bad or not.
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# ? Aug 30, 2022 01:02 |
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It's a 5th week so it's mostly a bunch of specials today. The Saved by the Bell Reve one has a bunch of good stories and so does the Harley Quinn TAS one . https://twitter.com/_Xelkelvos/status/1564952775586463745 https://twitter.com/_Xelkelvos/status/1564972283738955778 Xelkelvos fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Sep 1, 2022 |
# ? Sep 1, 2022 02:52 |
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Has there ever been a scene where someone uses the phrase "Arkham's razor"? Like to describe the revolving door of the Asylum.
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# ? Sep 2, 2022 18:19 |
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Give me ivy's super weed tia
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# ? Sep 2, 2022 18:38 |
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Has there ever been a scene where someone uses the phrase "Arkham's razor"? Like to describe the revolving door of the Asylum.
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# ? Sep 2, 2022 18:51 |
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Spoilers, but not in any way that matters (other than being funny) https://twitter.com/CBR/status/1567177770173595649?s=20&t=EYyqvqzxTKcgvLO6FHeoeg
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# ? Sep 6, 2022 23:50 |
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Whatever, he's always Joe Kerr to me.
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# ? Sep 6, 2022 23:59 |
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Well what is it?
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# ? Sep 7, 2022 00:21 |
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Jack white is the man who lives in the Flashpoint universe that would have been the equivalent to main universe joker.
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# ? Sep 7, 2022 00:26 |
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I am willing to bet soooo much money that by the end of whatever issue and/or storyline they put this reveal in, they pull a "remembered it wrong" OR it's revealed that that's not the real Joker.
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# ? Sep 7, 2022 01:12 |
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TwoPair posted:I am willing to bet soooo much money that by the end of whatever issue and/or storyline they put this reveal in, they pull a "remembered it wrong" OR it's revealed that that's not the real Joker. Did you read the article or my post? It isn't the "real" joker.
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# ? Sep 7, 2022 01:22 |
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Dumb clickbait was what I was expecting, so thanks for reporting.
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# ? Sep 7, 2022 01:24 |
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Mr Hootington posted:Did you read the article or my post? It isn't the "real" joker. I didn't read the article and I thought your post was just stating a fun fact, my bad.
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# ? Sep 7, 2022 01:29 |
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That same issue also has some loving insane poo poo where they're trying to recontextualize the ~omniverse~ by going "hey guys did you know time exists" and it doesn't make one ounce of sense But also it birthed this panel and I cackled like a hyena reading it
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# ? Sep 7, 2022 02:05 |
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Abroham Lincoln posted:That same issue also has some loving insane poo poo where they're trying to recontextualize the ~omniverse~ by going "hey guys did you know time exists" and it doesn't make one ounce of sense Grant Morrison at their most Grant Morrison
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# ? Sep 7, 2022 03:05 |
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Going back in time to kill Marv wolfman to stop CoIE from happening
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# ? Sep 7, 2022 03:14 |
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thetoughestbean posted:Grant Morrison at their most Grant Morrison Is that Morrison? It sounds like a bad imitation. For every person who cares deeply about DC timetravel mechanics, I will show you a hypercube full of folks who just want to see Hawkman fighting dinosaurs off with a mace.
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# ? Sep 7, 2022 03:34 |
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StumblyWumbly posted:Is that Morrison? It sounds like a bad imitation. It’s somebody at their most Morrison
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# ? Sep 7, 2022 03:39 |
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It's Geoff Johns which should have been clear to everyone immediately.
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# ? Sep 7, 2022 03:45 |
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StumblyWumbly posted:Is that Morrison? It sounds like a bad imitation. I'd rather see Hawkman fighting dinosaurs than any omniverse bullshit
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# ? Sep 7, 2022 13:27 |
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Forgot about some of this from the Harley Quinn TAS comic I won't spoil who the person on the left is, but it's a really good reference for some die hard DC fans No comment necessary
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# ? Sep 7, 2022 22:43 |
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I think the batman flashpoint was supposed to come out after dark crisis.
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# ? Sep 7, 2022 23:19 |
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Abroham Lincoln posted:That same issue also has some loving insane poo poo where they're trying to recontextualize the ~omniverse~ by going "hey guys did you know time exists" and it doesn't make one ounce of sense I'm simultaneously laughing and facepalming at the circled DC like, "DO YOU GET IT? DO YOU SEE HOW CLEVER I AM?"
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# ? Sep 8, 2022 01:03 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 13:58 |
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TwoPair posted:I'm simultaneously laughing and facepalming at the circled DC like, "DO YOU GET IT? DO YOU SEE HOW CLEVER I AM?"
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# ? Sep 8, 2022 04:09 |