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Frozen Pizza Party posted:I'll try that next time, any brand you recommend? 3M Hi-strength 90, the stuff for heavy drywall HAIL eSATA-n posted:lol don't do this Definitely do it and definitely post pictures of what your tires look like once you start riding  VelociBacon posted:They do this when dyno tuning cars and I'm not kidding. I've only seen it needed with a 1k HP Supra. Where do you think I got the idea? Worked at an exhaust company that had a dyno and asked one of the old techs why there was spray adhesive in the explicitly labeled "box o' dyno poo poo." These excellent Colorado beers did the rest. E; in all seriousness, get off your bike. Next time you find a berm that gives you trouble, or if you know one you can go directly to, stop and session it until you're satisfied with the amount of zen you're achieving through it. Preferably with a friend who can give you tips on your body and bike position. Shout-out to Spime Wrangler and the Copper Harbor Big Boy Clinic for making shredding berms the bike skill I'm best at, my friends all _hate_ being in front of me on wavy S-sections now. Car Hater fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Aug 31, 2022 |
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n8r posted:I have a ripmo AF and really enjoy it. The stock assegai tires are pretty drat slow. I have found the suspension to be a bit easy to bottom with ibis recommended settings. They are great for downhill though! Frozen Pizza Party posted:How can I keep my back end from wanting to and/or washing out in berms? The stuff out here in SoCal is mostly loose over hardpack, this weekend was my 2nd time at the bike park and I was riding a little more aggressively than the first. Almost lost the rear a couple times, and lost it completely once but recovered, both while in the apex (I think, by feel?) of the berm. Could it be that I'm entering at a weird angle, and while the front wheel is high on the berm, the back wheel is still in the loose crap at the bottom when I start leaning? Make sure you're leaning the bike and not steering with the bars. Those big rear end knobs on the side are for cornering and gripping. The more angle you can get, the more traction you're gonna get from those knobs. A great drill is to practice cornering on a parking lot or other paved area where you have good grip. Pedal for a bit of speed, then see how far you can lean the bike over while making a turn. Practice increasing speed, tightening the turn, and increasing the angle of the bike. Rocks or cones to mark your path are a good guide. The other advice here is great, too. Although I doubt sticky spray is really the solution.
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Steve French posted:Northstar allows pedaling up and riding their trails for free, so we started doing that. That's awesome -- how many bike parks allow that?
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No sticky spray, got it (/s)Walrusmaster posted:Which trails? I was at snow summit a few weeks ago and only had issues with one specific berm. My bike has some pretty mediocre tires on it. Perhaps you were breaking too hard on the back wheel? Going Green/Turtle specifically, the berm I lost it in was the first hard left on going green after the small downhill roll-in thingy, and turtle was just sloppy and looked to be in some state of disrepair so that could have also contributed. Car Hater posted:E; in all seriousness, get off your bike. Next time you find a berm that gives you trouble, or if you know one you can go directly to, stop and session it until you're satisfied with the amount of zen you're achieving through it. Preferably with a friend who can give you tips on your body and bike position. Shout-out to Spime Wrangler and the Copper Harbor Big Boy Clinic for making shredding berms the bike skill I'm best at, my friends all _hate_ being in front of me on wavy S-sections now. I'm sure there's a spot I could try sessioning at Summit, but I can't think of a spot off the top of my head where I'd want to stop to do so, most of the berm action is in pretty flowy territory and I'd hate to get into somebody's way (another fear of a newish rider). Eejit posted:Make sure you're leaning the bike and not steering with the bars. Those big rear end knobs on the side are for cornering and gripping. The more angle you can get, the more traction you're gonna get from those knobs. Thanks for the tips everyone, will tinker with the form next time I go and hopefully feel better about turning. Speed still scares me a bit, and being a heavy rider I get going fast pretty quickly, it wouldn't surprise me if trail braking into turns is actually braking through turns because of that fear. Leaning isn't really an issue, it's just the confidence on loose that doesn't inspire.
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kimbo305 posted:That's awesome -- how many bike parks allow that? Lots of places allow you to pedal up but only charge for shuttles/lifts so that the trails are "free to use" and therefore fall under the state's recreational use statute, which gives crazy good liability protections.
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VelociBacon posted:If you aren't buying a pass you aren't interacting with their waivers about injury etc so I would be really surprised if you were able to bike up on private land and ride potentially dangerous features a business has made without doing so. Most bike parks in the western US are on public land and operate under special use permits from the Forest Service, so you’re generally allowed to pedal up and ride down. As was mentioned, state recreational use statutes generally limit liability for landowners and permit holders. Some parks require special passes for certain trails (Banana Peel at Trestle), but those are few and far between.
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Even on private land the recreational use statutes are often stronger protection than anything a waiver could provide. For example, in Michigan, you have to prove either Gross Negligence or Willful Misconduct on the part of the landowner or land manager to have grounds to sue. Neither of those are easily signed away. Liability exposure is significantly higher if you charge for access to your trails (ie regular-rear end negligence might now count), and your insurance costs are going to go through the roof. Generally speaking the point of insurance for well-run trail organizations is to cover the cost of proving in court that someone who got injured has no legal standing to sue. Our major local trail system crosses municipal, county, state, and private land and all of those landowners face the same legal landscape for liability, regardless of whether a for-profit entity built the trail or features.
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I had a bike fit today finally. Been fighting shoulder and neck pain for a couple years and I'm hoping some new parts (riser stems) in the mail will fix it. Cheaper than the new bike I was considering...Hopefully riding will be fun and pain free again soon! E:I got the seat fore aft position and height right for me prior but learned more about what's tight muscle wise and good is affecting my riding. Got a bunch of stretches to do to help some of that. Pretty neat process and totally worth it. It's a place that also does PT and the guy is a mtber and gravel rider so I felt like I was in pretty good hands. Suburban Dad fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Sep 1, 2022 |
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Double posting to say I rode with spwrozek and the streak of "good dudes and fun times" with others ITT remains unbroken. Gotta be up to 3 or 4 now. Thanks for being cool and chill people, y'all. 
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VelociBacon posted:If you aren't buying a pass you aren't interacting with their waivers about injury etc so I would be really surprised if you were able to bike up on private land and ride potentially dangerous features a business has made without doing so. Northstar is on private land but provides (or at least did in the past) a free “pedal pass” technically required to ride up yourself, which involves signing waivers. Never heard of anyone being hassled for one, though. Uphill ski access in the winter around here at the resorts that allow it is the same deal.
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Suburban Dad posted:Double posting to say I rode with spwrozek and the streak of "good dudes and fun times" with others ITT remains unbroken. Gotta be up to 3 or 4 now. Thanks for being cool and chill people, y'all. Yeah, was a good time. Thanks for coming over this morning. Michigan still has fun trails and good times.
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I've been trying to buy a bike for ages (budget around $1k), I originally posted on a different bike specialist forum and everyone just argued about how poo poo all my options were and recommended bikes that were double my budget. they're all really gung ho about things like 'if you dont get modern geometry you might as well get a $400 wallmart bike' (actual quote) and anything except for 29" wheels is not worth bothering with. I think I need to stop asking them for advice. I've ridden trails like 3 times and just want to get into it as a weekend activity since i've moved to the north Georgia mountains. I dont even know what modern geometry means or why it's important, what i can gather from reading online a lot of things have moved by 10mm here, 5mm there or 15 here. Bikes are longer? If i'm planning to hit up trails once every 2 weeks and do some riding with my wife on paved/light gravel roads, do I even need it? I have the chance to buy a 2020 roscoe 8 with a couple of upgrades. what's a fair price for this?
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cubicle gangster posted:I've been trying to buy a bike for ages (budget around $1k), I originally posted on a different bike specialist forum and everyone just argued about how poo poo all my options were and recommended bikes that were double my budget. they're all really gung ho about things like 'if you dont get modern geometry you might as well get a $400 wallmart bike' (actual quote) and anything except for 29" wheels is not worth bothering with. I think I need to stop asking them for advice. They're longer wheelbase, lower to the ground at the crank, seat tubes / saddle position have your butt closer to being straight above the crank, and they generally have a slacker angle at the head tube. Short version, makes going fast over rough and/or steep stuff easier to control, and easier to not go over the bars when you gently caress up. quote:If i'm planning to hit up trails once every 2 weeks and do some riding with my wife on paved/light gravel roads, do I even need it? Depends on the trail, but from what you're describing, no. quote:I have the chance to buy a 2020 roscoe 8 with a couple of upgrades. what's a fair price for this? This could be a great buy, if it's the right size for you. What's the size and how tall are you? Price depends on the condition, are there pictures of the bike we could look at? Do you know what the upgrades were? The bike would have been around $1800 new. afflictionwisp fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Sep 2, 2022 |
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cubicle gangster posted:I dont even know what modern geometry means or why it's important, what i can gather from reading online a lot of things have moved by 10mm here, 5mm there or 15 here. Bikes are longer? Bikes being longer means the wheels are further apart, specifically, the front wheel is further away from you. This is not only achieved with a longer frame for a given size (and short stem keep reach to the bars the same), but also slacker and slacker head tube angles, which make descents more manageable. Depending on when "modern" is for you, the handlebars might be a lot wider, too. Frames are probably 60-80mm longer than they used to be for the same size, and wheelbases even more. quote:I have the chance to buy a 2020 roscoe 8 with a couple of upgrades. what's a fair price for this?
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kimbo305 posted:In this market, $1000 sounds like a decent price for it. If they upgraded away from the NX drivetrain, that would make it more desirable. afflictionwisp posted:This could be a great buy, if it's the right size for you. What's the size and how tall are you? It's a large and i'm 5'10 - puts me at the bottom range of needing a large, but based on measuring and trying to decipher information, I think I picked up that older geometry I may lean more towards a large, but newer geometry I could end up preferring medium - is that right? I am going to sit on it before handing over cash, but I also hope that I would be able to even tell if it was too big for me. The upgrades were minor - pedals, seat, decent lights. About $200 worth of stuff new but all necessary stuff i'd have bought if buying a brand new bike at $1k. Apparently barely used - purchased early covid, didnt get out as much as they thought. Seeing a lot of bikes listed for sale like that, absolutely amazed at how many 2 year old $5k bikes are being listed with around 100 miles on them - Kimbo, I guess thats what you mean by 'this market'. It's the matte paint option and the listing says it doesn't have a scratch, which seems impressive. I know matte paint scratches if you breathe on it too hard. I can get it for $1k flat, yeah. Sounds like it could be good! As far as what modern means to me, i have no idea. All I know is this other forum I asked of mountain bikers kept saying the frame of the bikes i was looking at 6 months ago were 'not modern', like did this massive shift in mountain bike design happen during covid? I really appreciate you guys being much more pleasant. I should have posted here in the first place, I might have ended up with a bike 6 months ago. I just went back and re-read my original thread on there and nobody is agreeing with each other. everyone has a wildly different opinion, but it's only about what isnt worth getting and whats poo poo, which eventually covers all options I'd been looking at. One guy in there 6 months ago recommended I up my budget to get the roscoe 6 instead of the marlin, and I was just told not to get the 2020 roscoe 8 over a $400 wallmart bike because it's got the same frame as the current roscoe 6 which is poo poo. just a bunch of miserable elitists.
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cubicle gangster posted:All I know is this other forum I asked of mountain bikers kept saying the frame of the bikes i was looking at 6 months ago were 'not modern', like did this massive shift in mountain bike design happen during covid? No, this is bullshit. A petty significant shift has happened between, like, 2016 and now, but if you don't have experience on other bikes to compare it to, then it doesn't really mean anything. My gateway drug to mountain biking was a 2016 aluminum hardtail at around the same price point as you, and I was riding that and having a blast until last fall. I've watched dudes ride some pretty aggressive trails in Maryland in the Frederick watershed (the rock garden at the end of this scares me to death) on old Trek hardtails from the early 2000s and crush it. Newer bikes are not a substitute for experience and skill. The best bike is the one you enjoy riding.
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cubicle gangster posted:Seeing a lot of bikes listed for sale like that, absolutely amazed at how many 2 year old $5k bikes are being listed with around 100 miles on them - Kimbo, I guess thats what you mean by 'this market'. Anyways, with elevated new bike prices, the used market also rose up quite a bit. There's of course gonna be a ton of regional variation. But my point was that your $1000 has less buying power now than it used to. quote:and I was just told not to get the 2020 roscoe 8 over a $400 wallmart bike because it's got the same frame as the current roscoe 6 which is poo poo. just a bunch of miserable elitists. Some people would claim there's a decent bike for every price point. There's definitely some dead zone from $300 to maybe $800, but at $1000, considering used bikes, you can get plenty of bike.
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Alright, i'm going to go see the bike tomorrow! i've got my checklist of things to look out for and watched a few videos of someone doing the pre-owned once over, so I can hopefully not get caught out by anything. Thanks, guys, much appreciated.
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cubicle gangster posted:I can get it for $1k flat, yeah. Sounds like it could be good! Priced at $1K out the door that's a decent deal as long as the drivetrain is in good condition (not rusty, shifts cleanly up and down, brakes brake). I say send it OP. "Bike people" can be like "car people" or "horse people" and they forget that not everyone is going to throw down $5K right out the gate on a new hobby. The Trek Roscoe is a solid entry-level bike. The NICA team I coach for probably has half a dozen riders on Roscoes. It will run cross-country trails all day long. Where it falls down is more chunky terrain and it's definitely not suited to more downhill riding. If you get this bike it will serve you well until eventually you'll progress to the point that you may want a more X or Y type bike. re: 'modern geo' - yeah I guess some people have a point that there is a tendency towards longer slacker geometry on hardtails which means that they ride descents with more stability, but again that won't hold you back from the kinds of trails you're going to ride in your first year or two. "One guy in there 6 months ago recommended I up my budget to get the roscoe 6 instead of the marlin, and I was just told not to get the 2020 roscoe 8 over a $400 wallmart bike because it's got the same frame as the current roscoe 6 which is poo poo. just a bunch of miserable elitists." This person is shitposting OP. No the Trek Roscoe isn't a high end bike, but it's far more capable than a $400 WalMart special. Anyway welcome to the sport and I hope you enjoy it!
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cubicle gangster posted:Alright, i'm going to go see the bike tomorrow! i've got my checklist of things to look out for and watched a few videos of someone doing the pre-owned once over, so I can hopefully not get caught out by anything. Sounds like everyone gave you solid answers already, so if you do end up picking it up, enjoy your new ride! Post some pics!
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Arishtat posted:Anyway welcome to the sport and I hope you enjoy it! Thanks! Appreciate all your points, nice to be going into (maybe) dropping a significant sum with a little confidence. I'm looking forward to checking out some trails nearby. I've got blankets creek and taylor randall bike trails pretty close (enough for a midweek ride in the morning before work if I get super into it), and a ton more an hour away.
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A Walmart bike will maim or kill you. Even a decent Kent Trouvaille is probably assembled by some underpaid teenager at the store that knows nothing about bikes. https://youtu.be/7UmOzPopJNE
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On the flip side, there’s this. Granted he’s an insanely talented rider and pushing this bike way beyond its limits. https://youtu.be/wkMnk_eCDQU
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For sure. Seth has later videos with the same bike on real trails and it does mostly fine, but he’s a professional mountain bike YouTuber with a garage full of parts and knowledge on how to work on bikes. For a newbie, dangerous things on a bike aren’t so obvious. I’m still a newbie at riding but spent a lot of time working on my bike and learning how to do maintenance but I wouldn’t want to take a Walmart bike and go ride a trail with it.
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You will learn a lot with your first bike. Mine is a 2020 roscoe 8 I bought new and have since upgraded the bits of it that pissed me off. The only thing that is likely to come up for you is the headset, which is loose cage bearings instead of sealed, but that's a $40 (+labor at a shop) upgrade whenever it gets crunchy from dirt ingestion. It has otherwise been quite bulletproof and I've taken it to the downhill park and it did fine until I crashed which was just me running out of skill. Its a stout as hell frame and wheelset you're unlikely to really gently caress up and all other components on it are fairly cheap replacements as they wear out. Pedals, stem length, bar style, grips, etc are all pretty cheap to change out to whatever your personal preference is while you figure out what works best for you. 
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I’m racing this in a DH at Northstar tomorrow. Did a few practice runs today and it’s hilarious and terrifying, mostly but not entirely because it’s like two sizes too small for me Four total people in the retro bike category.
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Guess who didn't know to install the 2mm spacer before the cassette on his hub? Guess who didn't realize his slip-on direct mount stem pieces wouldn't go around the knuckles on the new fancy handlebars he bought?  Its-a-me. The spacer should be easy to buy (I have no idea where the one is that came with my hub) but I guess I'm going hunting for some direct mount stem pieces that can come apart.
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My buddy rides a Roscoe 8 (2018/19 maybe) on all the trails in Colorado. Hell i rode a 2007 trek 6500 on all the front range trails until 2019 when i bought a FS finally. For $1k if it is in good condition it will be a great bike and will realistically be able to ride it all.
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Roscoe 8 is a really solid bike. Current one has a 66deg hta, 140mm fork, tubeless 2.6in tires, gx eagle, 4 piston Shimano brakes with a 200 mm front rotor, and a dropper. Can handle some pretty serious trails. I suppose a nicer fork would be cool but at least it has 35mm stancions. In related news my procaliber showed up today. Now I just need to buy a few more things, strip it down to the frame, build it the way I want, and build a whole 2nd bike to sell all the take off parts and offset the spiraling cost of this thing. I got those new fancy bontrager wheels, some xx1 cranks, level ultimates, have a transfer sl from the hei hei, am ordering a sid sl, and then need a derailleur/shifter/cassette. Leaning toward mechanical xx1 but derailleurs are out of stock. Considering the gx axs upgrade for the hei hei, then putting my mechanical xo1/gx on there and getting a new derailleur when they're available. jamal fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Sep 3, 2022 |
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Are those adjustable bars? What are they if you don't mind my asking, I've got weird wrists and this could potentially be a godsend.
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Frozen Pizza Party posted:Are those adjustable bars? What are they if you don't mind my asking, I've got weird wrists and this could potentially be a godsend. Fasstco flexx bars. They're a huge thing in the moto scene but basically unheard of in MTB. That's the dh version but the enduro version is very similar. I don't know if it will help you with your wrists but they are a game changer for fast chunky braking bump sort of stuff, apparently. I have some kind of issue with my hand/finger joints so I'm hoping it will help. If you just need your bars in a certain position there is probably a way way cheaper way to get that done. These aren't adjustable, theres an elastomer in there for shock absorption.
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I bought the bike! The size is perfect. It was in great condition - few minor dings on the handlebars and pedals which i'd have made within a week of owning it new anyway. The guy had been convinced to give trails a go early covid, got a year out of it and it's been in his garage since, he's selling it to get a road bike again.  I immediately took it for a test ride on some beginner trails near my house, and it's a lot of fun! A significantly better ride than the rentals I've used in Miami and my wife's marlin 5. Suspension is clearly improved - it's more invisible for lack of a better word. I can see how bumpy the ground is... but i dont feel it. The gears shift smoother than any other bike i've ridden, and the brakes are noticably better. I was unsure how much i'd get out of the dropper post when i first started looking into bikes 6 months ago, but this is such a great invention. So nice being able to adjust the seat height whenever you want, to whatever you want. Super happy i was able to get a bike with one already because I love it. I did realize something when riding the trails though - I used to ride a fixie in Miami, did it for 8 years. Before that the last time I had a bike was as a teenager growing up. Both of those locations are very flat, and this means i've actually NEVER ridden a bike up any kind of hill before. Such a strange thing to realize that in 35 years I dont think i've ever gone up an incline on a bike. gently caress it's difficult. I was on a peloton a few times a week through covid, I did not think I was out of shape... but I had to walk up so many parts of this beginner trail because it felt like my heart was going to explode. I guess it's a different enough movement that I need to train it. cubicle gangster fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Sep 3, 2022 |
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Happy New Bike Day!!! If it has been sitting that long without use or care, it may be worth having a shop service the fork. Edit: Spec sheet for that bike says it has an air spring fork - if you don't have one, you should pick up a high pressure pump so you can keep it consistent. afflictionwisp fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Sep 3, 2022 |
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Congrats! Bike looks good. I don't go up inclines either!
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afflictionwisp posted:Happy New Bike Day!!! I plan to get it serviced, this was just getting over-excited and taking it out for a real test ride! Thanks for the tip on the pump. our old bike tyre pump is a bit poo poo - is there a high pressure one that can handle both?
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Mountain biking up hills is super hard work, I've walked plenty. Everyone has been there. It's an awesome feeling when you improve and can ride up things you've previously had to walk. Just ride a little more each time. That bike has dope graphics  e: a shock pump is different than a tire pump and I've never seen anything dual purpose. The shock will need to be pumped up to something like 200psi. A shock pump is optimized for high pressure and low volume. You could theoretically use a shock pump for a tire but it would take forever to fill it with air. Even if a tire pump could handle the pressure needed for a shock, you wouldn't be able to pump it because you don't have enough mechanical advantage. taqueso fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Sep 4, 2022 |
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