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Iron Chef Ramen posted:There's nothing a $350 an hour "expert" could do that you couldn't with some googling and file searches on the computer. This this this.
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Everyone in the cryptocurrency community is extremely trustworthy and in this economy, paying less than $350/hr to the wallet inspector is unheard of
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Sep 3, 2022 23:26
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Also there's nothing to stop him from just transferring any crypto he can access to himself.
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Sep 3, 2022 23:28
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Saying that he needs to be alone with her is the biggest red flag there could possibly be. Insist to your friend that this person represents a severe danger to her, not just in terms of fraud, but physical harm as well. If she insists on going through with the appointment, then show up at her house and be there for it anyway. This person cannot be left alone with her under any circumstances.
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Sep 3, 2022 23:35
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MinutePirateBug posted:I hate bitcoin and I hoped I would never have to have anything to do with it. he's bullshitting her he's just going to copy all the other poo poo on her computer, plant a bunch of viruses, and empty her normal bank account of real dollars while stealing her identity and if by some chance he could get into the wallet, he would quietly take almost all the coins for himself
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This is an outright scam, he is dangerous, she is in danger, do not let the crypto fucker near her under any circumstance.
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Sep 3, 2022 23:48
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I would just write off that crypto fortune the deceased had and pretend it doesn't exist before I had to rely on some random dude I met in a dog park that wants to be alone with my computer. (obligatory "this is good for bitcoin") Unperson_47 fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Sep 4, 2022 |
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Sep 3, 2022 23:49
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yeah best case scenario is that grandma here gets her identity stolen
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if you have a good graphics card I think there are some software on github to brute force the wallet password but do not, under any circumstances, allow her to let the random dog park tech support person into her home those five characters on the paper makes me a bit curious though - are they all lowercase letters, or are there uppercase/numbers/symbols mixed in? seems way too short to be a password though
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Sep 4, 2022 00:01
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For $500/hr I will send in Bill Murray’s wallet security team to help stop this. We will erect firewalls around your friend and the computer, then distract the crypto enthusiast by signposting a fake under-16s disco in the property next door. During the confusion, we will smuggle the hard drive out and to the nearest landfill for safeguarding. Simply sign my smart contract to accept.
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Sep 4, 2022 00:09
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ymgve posted:if you have a good graphics card I think there are some software on github to brute force the wallet password Lower case letter followed by three digits followed by an indefinite letter possibly lower case letter, may be part of the serial number of an airplane. I can find random programs on github, but I would be leery of downloading anything like that I would want to put it on an isolated computer. How safe do you think these things on github are? Yes, I have been stressing she shouldn't meet this guy, I'm waiting on her email replies and I'll probably call her in 10-20 minutes if I don't get a response. MinutePirateBug fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Sep 4, 2022 |
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Sep 4, 2022 00:19
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MinutePirateBug posted:Lower case letter followed by three digits followed by an indefinite letter possibly lower case letter, may be part of the serial number of an airplane. I can find random programs on github, but I would be leery of downloading anything like that I would want to put it on an isolated computer. How safe do you think these things on github are? I think this is the most commonly used program but I have never used it myself: https://github.com/3rdIteration/btcrecover The Electrum wallet format decryption is shown here, if anyone wants to verify that those bytes do not contain any private keys: https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/blob/master/electrum/ecc.py#L523 edit: I misread some things in the code, it's not possible to do with just the 50 first/40 last bytes after all ymgve fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Sep 4, 2022 |
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Sep 4, 2022 00:39
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Losing only $350/hr might be an above-average outcome for crypto enthusiasts
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Main Paineframe posted:he's bullshitting her Its this, all of it. Your internal alarm bells are going off for a reason
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Okay, the consensus that was reached is - supposedly I am going to meet with her tonight have dinner, probably try to access the wallet again, possibly try the github stuff. Then abandon trying to recover the wallet if things fail tonight and have nothing to do with the bitcoin guy. But in the conversation she kept trying to insist we should research the guy to find out if the guy is legit, so in the long term I do not know what she will do.
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MinutePirateBug posted:Okay, the consensus that was reached is - supposedly I am going to meet with her tonight have dinner, probably try to access the wallet again, possibly try the github stuff. Then abandon trying to recover the wallet if things fail tonight and have nothing to do with the bitcoin guy. well let us do the research for you, do you know the dude's name?
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MinutePirateBug posted:But in the conversation she kept trying to insist we should research the guy to find out if the guy is legit, so in the long term I do not know what she will do. 
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Download one of the linked programs. Tell her you'll do it for free, and that if the key is recoverable, one of these programs will find it, and if it doesn't work, the key isn't recoverable.
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ymgve posted:well let us do the research for you, do you know the dude's name? I'll find out tonight she is walking at the dog park right now and not available by phone, I am a dumbass I should've asked earlier.
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MinutePirateBug posted:But in the conversation she kept trying to insist we should research the guy to find out if the guy is legit, so in the long term I do not know what she will do. She sounds desperate to be scammed. It may be a good idea to hammer on the fact that the wallet isn’t going anywhere by itself. Just sitting on it for a bit would give her time to get other things in order, and not rely on introducing strangers into her life and granting them access to her finances.
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MinutePirateBug posted:Okay, the consensus that was reached is - supposedly I am going to meet with her tonight have dinner, probably try to access the wallet again, possibly try the github stuff. Then abandon trying to recover the wallet if things fail tonight and have nothing to do with the bitcoin guy. you did just research him
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Old people just lose their minds around bitcoin. A relative of mine who is retired and rich due to a bunch of inherited property nearly fell for a Facebook scam promising effectively <5% returns for a 250k investment into some crypto portfolio. It was presented as “$250/week in profits” and that was apparently intriguing enough for her to call us and ask if it was legit. At least she was smart enough to do that, but loving hell
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MinutePirateBug posted:Okay, the consensus that was reached is - supposedly I am going to meet with her tonight have dinner, probably try to access the wallet again, possibly try the github stuff. Then abandon trying to recover the wallet if things fail tonight and have nothing to do with the bitcoin guy. there is no such thing as a bitcoin recovery specialist. by default, anyone claiming to be that is not legit it's the virtual equivalent of claiming to be the wallet inspector she's gotta give up on it. if the wallet contained anything worthwhile, the husband probably would have converted it to cash or written the password down before he died
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there are a looooooot of things I hate about crypto but it (intentionally) being yet another easy way to scam elderly folks out of their life savings is right near the top of the list. my parents have done a lot of dumb poo poo and I hope if I ever do get the call it's before they do something stupid
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Main Paineframe posted:there is no such thing as a bitcoin recovery specialist. by default, anyone claiming to be that is not legit there are some legit recovery folks like this guy (longtime computer security dude) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT9y-KQbqi4 but he's not hanging around in dog parks asking for $350 an hour
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ymgve posted:well let us do the research for you, do you know the dude's name? Sir John Notaponzi the 2nd.
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MinutePirateBug posted:Lower case letter followed by three digits followed by an indefinite letter possibly lower case letter and it's a 12 word phrase? Book code. first letter of book's title, 3 digit page number, enter the first line on that page starting with that lower case letter
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Tunicate posted:and it's a 12 word phrase? I don't know if this is accurate, but I want to believe that this goon reunites granny with her crypto fortune.
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So I got a name, a phone number, and a home address, from my friend. Can't find anything else on the guy with a casual google search. Found a file on a raspberry pi which is entitled mywallet, has a string of characters but not 32 characters.
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MinutePirateBug posted:So I got a name, a phone number, and a home address, from my friend. Can't find anything else on the guy with a casual google search. of course you can't find anything on the guy, he's a scammer there is no guarantee that the name, number, or address are even real and a professional crypto dude would not advertise their services exclusively through word of mouth at the dog park she needs to give up on this. if the husband thought this poo poo was important, he would have cashed out or told her the password sometime in the last TEN YEARS
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MinutePirateBug posted:So I got a name, a phone number, and a home address, from my friend. Can't find anything else on the guy with a casual google search. She is going to get rinsed. I know it’s underhanded as hell, but at this point the best thing you could probably do for this person would be to introduce another “Bitcoin expert” that you trust. Have them make the same empty promises so she has something to hang her hat on, and let them run out the clock for a bit while she deals with the grief that is clearly clouding her judgement.
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Do estate services include nowadays protected account management? I imagine as part of drafting a will the lawyer will ask for all sensitive info so it can be disseminated. This story seems like a good reminder of that.
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notwithoutmyanus posted:Sir John Notaponzi the 2nd.
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Just ate. Going through the couple lines of text exchanged on her phone the guy is "a Consultant for bitcoin forensics". While eating she reaffirmed she wouldn't meet with the guy, but said she would pay him for his time, what???? MinutePirateBug fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Sep 4, 2022 |
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Long shot but: is she religious? And if so, is there a figure of authority at the place of worship that’d be up for explaining how it’s a scam? I’ve heard a few last ditch anti-scammer measures for the “old lady taken by foreign boyfriend who needs money type” where getting a priest to do it helped because of the added appeal to authority aspect.
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MinutePirateBug posted:Just ate. Going through the couple lines of text exchanged on her phone the guy is "a Consultant for bitcoin forensics". Please put her in touch with me, I am also an expert at something and she can pay me to do nothing.
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Okay final results - since she needed to go to bed - she said she would cancel meeting with Bitcoin guy, but she still wants to pay him for canceling their meeting, so $350. So the main panicky event is resolved hopefully, even if it hasn't been resolved super well. I am going to review the python code for github program that was previously recommended until I understand it and feel comfortable using it. Also there are still a lot of random usbs and notes and other things laying about that I still need to go through. No she isn't religious. Thank you for your help goons.
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MinutePirateBug posted:Okay final results - since she needed to go to bed - she said she would cancel meeting with Bitcoin guy, but she still wants to pay him for canceling their meeting, so $350. So the main panicky event is resolved hopefully, even if it hasn't been resolved super well. Hopefully he really was a brilliant white knight bitcoin forensics expert all along, and will reject the $350 as his services were not utilized and of course he has no actual need for worthless fiat
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Why is she paying the expert for doing no work. Scheduling a meeting then canceling is not a $350 event.
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