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Mix. posted:trying to decide if i should do a couple pulls for the new bow for tighnari (who's currently holding battle pass bow) or wait and save for candace's banner in 3.2 Candace is next patch
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:Thinking about the upcoming banner. So whats up with kokomi She's insanely good at healing, even better than before now with the new hydro resonance. She also puts out some decent damage with the clam set. She's easy to equip, plenty of weapons are good on her, including TToDS. If you can fire off her burst before her jellyfish duration runs out, it resets. Do that for every other jellyfish and she's got 100% uptime. She also has very good synergy with Albedo, because her jellyfish is going to hit everything nearby every 2 seconds. Albedo's skill will hit things with a 2 second cooldown, so Kokomi can maximize his DPS. Those two together can handle almost every commission and domain with just about zero effort on your part.
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Sep 4, 2022 06:20
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Kokomi's niche is that she can put "slow" hydro application at 100% uptime while also having hydro normals. In a super min-max mega gamer mode, you don't need a healer because you're dodging all attacks with burst timings. But for the 99% mere mortals, she's a good hydro slot that also fills in buffer+Healer all in one.
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Sep 4, 2022 06:46
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Excelzior posted:alternatively if you choose to banish him you later find evidence he got torn to shreds by riftwolves over in the Lost Nursery I felt bad about choosing the option I did, maybe I shouldn't  In Inazuma (fatui spoiler) I helped the other fatuus fake her death. Kinda wondered if I shoulda done the same, but I clicked the option before really reading them
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Sep 4, 2022 06:53
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Captain France posted:Also makes me wonder: How much do we know about the Hydro Archon? Because I think I can guess which Honkai character they're gonna be. In terms of personality, we've got this quote from one of the Hydro ascension gems quote:My ideals have no stains. and thats it.
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Sep 4, 2022 06:56
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Finally finishing up the (long but interesting) Sumeru chapter. Loving that casual bomb drop confirming that Katheryne is an automaton, but also new information that she's from Schneznaya
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gandlethorpe posted:Finally finishing up the (long but interesting) Sumeru chapter. Loving that casual bomb drop confirming that Katheryne is an automaton, but also new information that she's from Schneznaya I think the second part we've known, and the first part was hitting you with a clue-by-four. Or at least I knew the second part. I don't remember from where, may have been the wiki.
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Sep 4, 2022 07:58
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Talking to the Razor missing lady, she tells you adventures guild HQ is located in not-russia
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Sep 4, 2022 08:00
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Tighnari is now level 90. Collecting the materials for stuff like that really isn't that bad as long as you don't mind waiting a couple weeks. I never really went super hard into farming lotuses and just marked them when I found them and picked them up whenever I was nearby. The recent event was nice for jumpstarting enemy material collection efforts. I realized not too long ago that I was loving up by doing all my exploration with my Tighnari + Electro team (which makes the mushroom things drop a different version of their loot) but remembered to kill all the mushrooms from this event's battle challenges correctly. gandlethorpe posted:Ooh yeah, I'm definitely liking this version of Teizou. XQ feels much more fluid ( This use of XQ for his interruption resistance is making me consider him on other teams where I'd otherwise need Zhongli. Wonder if it might make sense to have both Xingqiu and Yelan on Yoimiya's team (with Xingqiu substituting for Zhongli). Yelan would lose the final "different elements" buff, but gain hydro resonance.
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:Thinking about the upcoming banner. So whats up with kokomi Yeah basically. Mihoyo had no clue what they were doing when designing her and so her ultimate and passives are both pretty much completely useless but hydro is so good and her E applies it continuously in a big AOE for such a long duration that she ended up being really good anyways. You play kokomi just by pressing E and swapping out and enjoying infinite hp and an unlimited supply of freeze / electro-charge / bloom(?) reactions. She doesn't apply hydro fast enough for vaporize teams though.
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Eh, you can actually use Kokomi as an onfield driver in some teams and it works decently. Kokomi/Yelan or XQ/Fischl/Flex is a team that works. If you build for it she does decent damage during her burst. And the passive that makes her burst refresh her jellyfish's duration is pretty critical.
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ok her ultimate and 2/3rds of her passives are useless (and the third passive is something fischl gets a better version of for free without even needing a passive for it) she's still really strong though!
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I wouldn't be talking about useless passive talents while bringing up Fischl favorably. I know her A4 is possibly the best one in the entire game, but I like reminding people that the other one exists. Anyway, I get good use out of Kokomi's entire kit. People just read her burst and think they have to play her as a DPS. She's more of a healer/enabler who can fill in with damage if need be. gandlethorpe fucked around with this message at 10:02 on Sep 4, 2022 |
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believe it or not dps kokomi DOES exist though, it's just not 'slap a weapon on her and go', you have to actually artifact/team build for it... and her ult is really useful for that, because it buffs her attack and jellyfish damage by a scaling amount of her max HP, which at level 7 is around 7% of her max HP. which can scale up pretty drat high with the new hydro resonance. (its around 11% at level 7 for charge attacks/jellyfish). you really want her C1 for that though, because it gives her ult an extra effect where the final attack in her NA chain fires off a fish that deals damage equal to 30% of her max HP with no cooldown on it
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ninjoatse.cx posted:I think the second part we've known, and the first part was hitting you with a clue-by-four. Or at least I knew the second part. I don't remember from where, may have been the wiki. Yeah, I'm pretty sure we didn't know that first part, but between several of the Harbingers being Mad Scientist types, IIRC one of them being specifically into making artificial people, and this Tae posted:Talking to the Razor missing lady, she tells you adventures guild HQ is located in not-russia Some people called it. (Ashikai on youtube is the one I saw) --edit Although personally, I was expecting a much, much later reveal that she's a servant of whoever is responsible for the fact that the sky is a lie. Also it is loving incredible that that still hasn't really been followed up on. Captain France fucked around with this message at 10:29 on Sep 4, 2022 |
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Sep 4, 2022 10:24
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Kokomi with ult and clam set does enough damage to solo clear element immune enemies like big slimes and pre nerf spectres in reasonable time even in abyss, from a healer slot. This niche fact made her probably my most used character in the inazuma patches even if most of the time she is not even part of the dps rotation and only comes up to deal with shields or the aforementioned elemental immune enemies.
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AParadox posted:Kokomi with ult and clam set does enough damage to solo clear element immune enemies like big slimes and pre nerf spectres in reasonable time even in abyss, from a healer slot. This niche fact made her probably my most used character in the inazuma patches even if most of the time she is not even part of the dps rotation and only comes up to deal with shields or the aforementioned elemental immune enemies. Hmm that's good to know, I had no interest in another water healer since I have Barbara and also don't particularly like Kokomi's personality or aesthetic.
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Yeah, I rarely have to use her as a DPS filler, and it's almost always in Abyss. But it's extremely cool that my full support (TTDS+TotM) healer who makes my team unkillable can occasionally come out to do 8-9k autoattacks.
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Captain France posted:Just played the latest Honkai update, and man (spoilers, but honestly aside from visuals they're for the update before last) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abdGGfCnacI Personally I thought Mobius summer skin was the cooler Kokomi
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hm my cyno setup is looking pretty good its very funny that white tassel is looking to be his best non-5* option.
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Oh No! The robot is sad and now I'm sad!  Poor clicking puppy
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Kokomi ult can also help with hp threshold bosses, so you don't have to waste a full rotation to get them to switch phase. https://i.imgur.com/1GSOccI.mp4 Full duration of kokomi ult with non burst build yae turrets are enough to clear that first phase of abyss kenki too.
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Goddamn how do I get my yae to do those kinds numbers 
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Xun posted:Goddamn how do I get my yae to do those kinds numbers C6 Sara and Kazuha.
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R5 widsith rolling damage can make the numbers huge, but it's pretty hard to manage.
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I’ve been rolling on the Zhongli banner a couple more sets because Fischl seems to be amazing and buffing her would be cool. What I’m now at is Fischl C1, Collei C5 and Diana or whatever the last one is called hasn’t dropped. Perhaps I’ll just start stocking up gems for the next banner.
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Yeah that clip was witdsith high roll, I just got kazuha at the time and wanted to see the new big numbers. I usually roll with Lost prayer but with the other 4* dps cata, solar pearl, the burst does about 70% of that damage https://i.imgur.com/mHJijiu.mp4
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Kale posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abdGGfCnacI She DOES have the jellyfish. . . But Elysia has the pink hair, the weird shorts, and all those fishy movements. It is weird that they went to the mermaid thing thrice though.
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Real Cool Catfish posted:I’ve been rolling on the Zhongli banner a couple more sets because Fischl seems to be amazing and buffing her would be cool. Rolling for four stars is the true pain.
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Endorph posted:Hakushin on Kokomi? I've had proto amber on her with clam and her bubble pops are regularly 45k+ during burst.
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How is Collei in general? Can she make a good second Dendro for Tighnari? Now that I'm finished with everything except his talents, I should start grabbing mats for someone else (the mushrooms she uses actually seem much less common than Tighnari's lotuses, though maybe once I start marking them on the map it'll improve).RPATDO_LAMD posted:Yeah basically. Mihoyo had no clue what they were doing when designing her and so her ultimate and passives are both pretty much completely useless but hydro is so good and her E applies it continuously in a big AOE for such a long duration that she ended up being really good anyways. Her "no crit chance" thing is weird, because it's not like she'd be eve remotely "overpowered" with it. Xun posted:Goddamn how do I get my yae to do those kinds numbers drat, yeah, mine is pretty strong but doesn't quite reach that. As they mention, Sara + Kazuha would make a difference. Mine hits for like ~45k with her burst blasts. My Sara doesn't have C6 yet, though (but I fully ascended/leveled her for when I finally roll it someday). Though not sure if Sara + Kazuha would straight up double the damage. I wonder if it would make sense to substitute Sara for Raiden on my Tighnari team. Not sure if Yae's Electro application is enough of a regular application on its own, without Raidens skill. The Sara attack buff might be nice, since Tighnari has low attack and I think Sara adds a flat value. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Sep 4, 2022 |
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Collei is like designed wrong on purpose. Her dendro application is too slow. I guess eventually they'll make a character that doesn't want too much dendro for some reason, but ????
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Tae posted:Collei is like designed wrong on purpose. Her dendro application is too slow. I guess eventually they'll make a character that doesn't want too much dendro for some reason, but ???? Both Collei and DMC really suffer from those big holes in their kit and like...does Kusanali really need the sales help that badly? She's an archon people are going to buy her regardless if Collei is actually decent or not. I love Collei's design and it really sucks the Dendro Amber meme is real.
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They're pretty clearly terrified about potentially releasing an early-game-4*-powerlevel character for the new element by accident.
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Tae posted:Collei is like designed wrong on purpose. Her dendro application is too slow. I guess eventually they'll make a character that doesn't want too much dendro for some reason, but ???? I kinda find her more usable in my em keqing, dendro, kazuha, kuki team. With dmc I have two issues unique to him: First, vs single target, in my kuki->dmc->kazuha->keqing rotation kauzha often has to wait a while before being able to swirl electro since dmc's dendro keeps eating all the electro procs from kuki. This is more kuki that dmc problem tbh but it works better with collei. Second, vs crowds, many enemies often never get hit by any dendro so the em on keqing and kuki are often wasted while collei hits everyone in her not so great AOE. With that said both options don't feel that great, I'm waiting for a better dendro applicator, healer if possible so I can slot fischl in instead of kuki. Pope Urbane II posted:I've had proto amber on her with clam and her bubble pops are regularly 45k+ during burst. How? It has a hard cap of 30K per bubble and vs most normal enemies this translates into 27K after resists. As far as I know the only way to increase it is resist shred and with a rare unintended super conduct the highest I've seen is 36K.
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Collei is way better than amber and is a perfectly passable unit. Shes not amazing or anything but she does the thing shes designed to do adequately. Feels like as soon as a 4* isnt as good as xingqiu or fischl or whoever they get derided as garbage.
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Endorph posted:Collei is way better than amber and is a perfectly passable unit. Shes not amazing or anything but she does the thing shes designed to do adequately. Feels like as soon as a 4* isnt as good as xingqiu or fischl or whoever they get derided as garbage. https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FatNarrowImperatorangel-mobile.mp4
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