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Sep 4, 2022 03:09
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Any credible JFK assassination theories left? Does anyone care anymore? I know Mortal Error was very en vogue in the last decade but I think it's been thoroughly debunked.
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Sep 4, 2022 04:55
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Any credible JFK assassination theories left? Does anyone care anymore? I know Mortal Error was very en vogue in the last decade but I think it's been thoroughly debunked. It was pretty obviously the CIA. Whether they meant for it to happen like this or it was a bungle we'll never know, but there's so much poo poo around them and JFK that it's inarguable at this point.
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Sep 4, 2022 04:58
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Any credible JFK assassination theories left? Does anyone care anymore? I know Mortal Error was very en vogue in the last decade but I think it's been thoroughly debunked. why do you think its been thoroughly debunked?
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Sep 4, 2022 05:53
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Sep 4, 2022 06:55
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allen dulles had it done, george hw bush was involved, jack ruby killed oswald because he was trying to spoil the game. there's so much more but i'd rather keep this post brief. Accepting anything that tries to interpret what happened as anywhere close to the Warren conclusions, is willfully ignorant at this point.
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Sep 4, 2022 07:05
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Some Guy TT posted:why do you think its been thoroughly debunked? Have you ever been to the Epstein thread
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Sep 4, 2022 07:39
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Carlos Marcello went with Guy Bannister's crew at the last minute instead of Ward Littel's Chuck Rogers and Jean Mesplède were the pro shooters who took out Kennedy. J D Tippett was meant to kill Oswald (who didn't actually shoot) but hosed it up and got owned
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Sep 4, 2022 07:49
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MonsieurChoc posted:It was pretty obviously the CIA. Whether they meant for it to happen like this or it was a bungle we'll never know, but there's so much poo poo around them and JFK that it's inarguable at this point. For what? I'm not saying they didn't do it, I just don't get why'd they kill 1% anticommunist pro industrialist.
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Sep 4, 2022 11:20
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Fish of hemp posted:For what? I'm not saying they didn't do it, I just don't get why'd they kill 1% anticommunist pro industrialist. The CIA was an empire unto itself under Eisenhower. As leftists, we might think Kennedy was still miles from being progressive, but Bay of Pigs and Vietnam and rapprochement was still more than the CIA could bear, considering how freely they operated otherwise.
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Sep 4, 2022 11:24
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Fish of hemp posted:For what? I'm not saying they didn't do it, I just don't get why'd they kill 1% anticommunist pro industrialist. Internal powerstruggles is the number one reason for 1% anticommunist pro industrialists to get murked.
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Sep 4, 2022 11:31
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Fish of hemp posted:For what? I'm not saying they didn't do it, I just don't get why'd they kill 1% anticommunist pro industrialist. his brother was tough on the mob and he was a filthy Catholic
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Sep 4, 2022 12:02
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paul_soccer12 posted:Carlos Marcello went with Guy Bannister's crew at the last minute instead of Ward Littel's The underworld trilogy is pretty good. I should reread it.
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Sep 4, 2022 13:22
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Fish of hemp posted:For what? I'm not saying they didn't do it, I just don't get why'd they kill 1% anticommunist pro industrialist. iirc Kennedy was really pissed off with the CIA for how they ballsed up the Bay Of Pigs, and he tried to come down hard on them after that, starting with firing Allen Dulles, and this was their revenge anyway, that's not the common narrative (since the common narrative is that Oswald and Ruby acted alone), but idk if we can trust any narratives pushed by the US government at this point, if we ever could
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Sep 4, 2022 14:17
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Kennedy thought the CIA loving sucked and was filled with idiots (as they were) since they couldnt get rid of Castro no matter how much money and men they threw at the problem
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Sep 4, 2022 14:58
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His stoping the bay of pigs pissed off lots of killers and cost them potential money and real money and that's worth killing for.
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Sep 4, 2022 15:13
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Of course the real reason Dulles had JFK killed is because JFK would not have let Suharto massacre every single leftist in Indonesia
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Sep 4, 2022 15:13
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The plague bombs in Korea and the swine flu in Cuba actually happened though
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Sep 4, 2022 15:23
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Some Guy TT posted:why do you think its been thoroughly debunked? Maybe I've made an error of my own
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Sep 4, 2022 15:37
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Dr. Jerrold Coe posted:The plague bombs in Korea and the swine flu in Cuba actually happened though It's bugging me that this NAFO account is wrong! They're wrong, Jerry!
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Sep 4, 2022 15:44
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"But how can you say that communique was hoaxed, Kramer?" "Because I wrote it, Jerry!"
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Sep 4, 2022 15:45
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HerraS posted:Kennedy thought the CIA loving sucked and was filled with idiots (as they were) since they couldnt get rid of Castro no matter how much money and men they threw at the problem the reason i like the mortal error theory is because i too have read THE JAKARTA METHOD and have concluded that while spook branches of the government are indeed incredibly evil they are also insanely loving stupid and a fake assassination attempt by the cia to scare kennedy being ruined because they failed to take into account the fact that the secret service was staffed by drunken idiot yahoos is extremely onbrand for all involved parties
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Sep 4, 2022 21:41
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JFK also was a big admirer of Patrice Lumumba, who got merked by the Belgians with CIA assistance, and then the CIA had the UN Secretary assassinated too. JFK was not a real leftist, but he was bothering the people really in charge of America.
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Sep 4, 2022 21:58
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I’ve never read much on the assassination but the conspiracy theories have never really struck me as possible due to the bullets being matched to Oswald’s rifle. maybe there was a gang of Cuban fascists there to do the same but Oswald was the first to act if there was another assassin or assassins
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Sep 4, 2022 22:43
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I still love the idea that Oswald fired 2 shots, one that missed and one that hit Kennedy but that the fatal headshot was someone else. Without him having fired at least some shots, I have a hard time explaining his actions. He was by literally all accounts, behaving like a guy who at least tried to shoot Kennedy. If he truly was just chilling at work and watching the parade, I don't know why he would sprint out the building thinking they were gonna pin it on him.
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Sep 4, 2022 22:46
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MonsieurChoc posted:JFK also was a big admirer of Patrice Lumumba, who got merked by the Belgians with CIA assistance, and then the CIA had the UN Secretary assassinated too. They didn't even tell JFK they took out Lumumba until days later
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Sep 4, 2022 22:56
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Oliver Stone's JFK is a really fun movie but the best part is this monologue that Kevin Costner screams after he gets blackpilled quote:It's not about our well-being, alright? It's not about our two cars and our TVs and your kitchen. It's about our kids grow up in a shithole of lies and I'm angry about it! My life is hosed because of it. If you could see it that way, you'd see your life is hosed too. My life is also hosed because I grew up in a shithole of lies (2000's America)
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Sep 5, 2022 01:52
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Oliver Stone's Nixon where CIA Director Richard Helms played by Sam Waterston has his eyes go completely black while talking about how they might JFK Tricky Dick if he doesn't play ball (they did oust him, they just didn't murder him)
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Sep 5, 2022 02:13
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Allen Dulles was on the advisory board of Scholastic, which partnered with the Texas Book Depository Building. Lee Harvey Oswald was hired to work there a month before the assassination; at this time, CIA informant George de Mohrenschildt, who was in contact with George H.W. Bush, suspected that Oswald had already tried to shoot General Edwin Walker. The physical and video evidence all lines up with JFK being killed by Oswald's rifle. I think the notion of a second gunman is a red herring not supported by the evidence. The connections between Oswald, Dulles, and Bush are highly suspicious, but there's no smoking gun proving they orchestrated the assassination. https://twitter.com/nirol__/status/1562626125775642624
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The CIA, having realized they bungle any operation they get seriously involved in, just found lone gunmen and helped them get in place to take their shot. If Oswald hadn't succeeded, Kennedy would've just been shot by some other lone gunmen somewhere else.
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just the figure of oswald is weird and suspicious and almost certainly involved with the US security state i don't know much else, but everything about the guy screams "asset", from his sojourn to the soviet union to his incredibly odd fair play for cuba stuff to his sudden and effortless association with people way out of his social league who were also themselves incredibly spooky
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Sep 5, 2022 11:07
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oswald wasn't ever aware of the degree he was being used. the CIA via de Mohrenschildt hyped the guy up to do violence and they wanted him to do something like shoot Gen. Edwin Walker, which would have had genuine use in anti-communist propaganda. him hauling off and shooting Kennedy was problematic for a number of reasons, not the least that the guy had intelligence fingerprints all over him. what the CIA did in the aftermath of the shooting was an extremely hasty cover-up of them juicing up a violent dipshit who ended up in exactly the right place at exactly the right time. there were thousands and thousands of guys just like Oswald stashed all over the US, it just happens that they got extremely lucky/unlucky with this one.
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Sep 5, 2022 13:15
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The idea that the CIA finally managing to kill a major head of state when they gently caress up an intended non lethal assassination attempt as scare tactic/warning message/whatever against their own president is one of those things that sounds too perfect to be true.
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Don’t forget that there were back channels to normalize relations with Cuba and it was looking pretty promising
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