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Help, I’m lost in the Liefeld homage Twitter and I can’t stop scrolling. https://twitter.com/lie_felled/status/1553406964176003072?s=21&t=dOizgkPznuwqN4YDEaW6PA
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I got a huge kick out of that this morning so thanks John Mirra. I don't have a Twitter account so I can't view all of it but seeing him gently caress up Watchmen really brings home how god awful that 90's EXTREME poo poo really was. Now I want to see that guy him do Kingdom Come and The Dark Knight Returns. ... We had a thread a long long time ago where goons took Spiderman and took turns making him more and more Liefeldian, adding pouches and lens flare each time, where the end result was amazing. I think it was Spiderman anyway but I can't find the thread. Liefelding up classic comic panels, covers or pages might make for a cool thread actually.
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Sep 4, 2022 17:40
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I can’t wait for Tintin Liefeld
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Sep 4, 2022 19:33
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Flesh Forge posted:god this guy is amazing lmao I am 1000% convinced that Rob is actually running this account and drawing all this.
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Sep 4, 2022 20:00
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X-O posted:I am 1000% convinced that Rob is actually running this account and drawing all this. The backgrounds are too good By virtue of the fact there are backgrounds at all
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Sep 4, 2022 20:21
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yeah if it was rob drawing it, it would look like his modern work, which is actually significantly worse than his early work
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Sep 4, 2022 21:01
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Alaois posted:yeah if it was rob drawing it, it would look like his modern work, which is actually significantly worse than his early work I remember when I was doing my Claremont Uncanny read through and hitting what I think was Liefeld's first issue for Marvel (aliens invade Australia, most people don't notice) and thinking "hey, this is a little rough, but a lot of fun."
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Sep 4, 2022 21:06
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I mean yeah Liefield was insanely popular at that time and it was for a reason, even if his technical skills were very rough. Sad to hear he never got better
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Sep 4, 2022 22:53
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I know it's just dogpiling at this point, but the detail I can't get over is how Fighting American's upper half seems to have rotated as an independent entity from the rest of his body. His belt buckle and belt loops are centered to his torso but also completely out of alignment with his pelvis.
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Sep 5, 2022 00:04
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Liefeld bascially draws like a 14 year old kid. is only real strength is that, for better or worse, his stuff absolutely screams off the page and nobody would ever say it's boring. It's all just so loving LOUD and he renders every character the same way. If I were to pay him a compliment, besides somehow getting rich drawing comics, it's that his poo poo is nothing but nonstop action, appeals to kids and you can tell he has a hell of a lot of fun drawing that poo poo. Except he's a horrible story teller. But imagine him trying to illustrate Sandman or a Batman noir detective story. Watchmen. Daredevil.
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Sep 5, 2022 01:11
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Funny thing is early 90s Mark Pacella. Even as an X-Force loving little poo poo who thought Liefeld was pretty rad stuff, even then when I saw Pacella imitating Rob I was all "that is nasty that is dog poo poo"BiggerBoat posted:We had a thread a long long time ago where goons took Spiderman and took turns making him more and more Liefeldian, adding pouches and lens flare each time, where the end result was amazing. I think it was Spiderman anyway but I can't find the thread. Erik Larsen beat y'all by about 25 years 
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Sep 5, 2022 01:21
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Someday I'd love to see some kind of deep-dive on all the historical, political, and cultural factors, both in and out of the comic industry, that led to the early 90's/Image/eXtreme aesthetic. It's simultaneously perfectly representative of the era and totally unique within it.
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Sep 5, 2022 01:55
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Keromaru5 posted:Someday I'd love to see some kind of deep-dive on all the historical, political, and cultural factors, both in and out of the comic industry, that led to the early 90's/Image/eXtreme aesthetic. It's simultaneously perfectly representative of the era and totally unique within it. Apparently part of it was manga; Liefeld and some other creators were huge fans of Masamune Shirow’s Appleseed, which had big guns and military equipment galore.  
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:Funny thing is early 90s Mark Pacella. Even as an X-Force loving little poo poo who thought Liefeld was pretty rad stuff, even then when I saw Pacella imitating Rob I was all "that is nasty that is dog poo poo" Does Cyber-Spider-Man (Spyber-Man?) have shutters on his cyber-shoulder? And what's with the ring of cyber-eggs on his cyber-bicep?
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Sep 5, 2022 03:57
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Sep 5, 2022 04:59
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That doesn't look like Moon Knight at all.
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Sep 5, 2022 08:36
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The Housecat of Khonshu has been awakened and set upon the transgressing parakeets...
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Libra posted:Does Cyber-Spider-Man (Spyber-Man?) have shutters on his cyber-shoulder? And what's with the ring of cyber-eggs on his cyber-bicep? I think the shutters are supposed to look like samurai armor and the eggs are i dunno, healy orbs. Spiderman broke his arm and CYBORG X gave him that as a sort of cyber cast because it was the 90s and that stuff was cool as poo poo. Here's a page from the book, I happen to own this one because CyberSpidey is awesome. 
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thetoughestbean posted:Apparently part of it was manga; Liefeld and some other creators were huge fans of Masamune Shirow’s Appleseed, which had big guns and military equipment galore. Liefeld wishes he could draw firearms as well as Shirow does. All these years later he still draws every gun like it's a tube or shaped like a bar or chocolate.
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Sep 5, 2022 17:09
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Skwirl posted:https://twitter.com/SienkiewiczArt/status/1566636480860127233?t=tvK299J7c2TCyLMh4yj49A&s=19 The iconic poster for CATS came out in 1981. I wonder if that influenced this at all.
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Sep 5, 2022 17:09
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NC Wyeth Death Cult posted:The iconic poster for CATS came out in 1981. I wonder if that influenced this at all. Came out November '82 apparently, so I think that's likely.
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According to this: https://www.marvel.com/comics/issue/70416/moon_knight_1980_29 that issue was 1983 so lmao yeah probably
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mind the walrus posted:According to this: https://www.marvel.com/comics/issue/70416/moon_knight_1980_29 Cover Date is when retailers are supposed to take something off the shelves and return the cover for costs, not when it was released.
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Sep 5, 2022 17:37
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How silly to think the word "published" meant "published."
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Sep 5, 2022 17:59
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mind the walrus posted:How silly to think the word "published" meant "published." I was going off this https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Moon_Knight_Vol_1_29 which said the cover date was March 83 and the cover says March, I'm guessing whatever intern typed that up doesn't know what a cover date is. Edit: Yeah, clicking through for a few issues the "Date published" is just the first of whatever month is printed on the cover. Air Skwirl fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Sep 5, 2022 |
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thetoughestbean posted:Apparently part of it was manga; Liefeld and some other creators were huge fans of Masamune Shirow’s Appleseed, which had big guns and military equipment galore. I... I think I'm having a panic attack. I can see how Liefeld could be inspired by it, but... It's at least competent?! Help!!! Also Parkingtigers posted:Help, I’m lost in the Liefeld homage Twitter and I can’t stop scrolling. That last panel had me literally snickering at work, so thanks for nothing.
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  Still working my way through Peter David's X-Factor, and Larry Stroman has been a lowlight on art. Anyone who isn't a main character looks like some sort of troll, and even the main characters suffer at times.
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Libra posted:Does Cyber-Spider-Man (Spyber-Man?) have shutters on his cyber-shoulder? And what's with the ring of cyber-eggs on his cyber-bicep? he only wore this getup for like 6 pages before his broken arm healed. Only as I got much older did I realize how loving weird that run got, complete with Spidey and the Punisher taking on a military academy commandant or some poo poo who was trying to replace the dollar with cocaine.
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Samovar posted:I... I think I'm having a panic attack. I can see how Liefeld could be inspired by it, but... It's at least competent?! Help!!! Well now I want to know where they got the way they draw women, especially that weird hip thing.
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 Too busy drawing robot bugs to finish Wonder Woman, I guess.  And then Superman is turning into a Star Trek alien. Earth 2 #0 (2012) Pencils/Inks: Tomas Giorello
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Attacking a swarm entity with fists and a sword seems a bit of a poor choice.
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Chinston Wurchill posted:
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Stroman's art in the original run he did on X-Factor was great. He's got a unique style that isn't for everyone, but it stood out against the usual 90s stuff. His art later from that run you posted isn't great, though. I don't know if it's age or different coloring or inking but it just looks sloppy. Maybe he was rushed. I still like his art overall though
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Keromaru5 posted:I knew Shirow was a big influence on a lot of late 90's artists, but never would have thought of the early 90's ones. Given some of his other...output, probably also Shirow.
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goatface posted:Attacking a swarm entity with fists and a sword seems a bit of a poor choice. Look he's not Silver Age Superman, he doesn't have some bullshit like singing at a note that will kill robot bugs.
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Is coloring in B&W art ever a good idea? I heard about the upcoming Best of 2000AD collections but the previews that are obviously colored after the fact look pretty lame, although it’s not the worst I’ve seen. Am I just a weirdo for preferring things stayed B&W?
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david_a posted:Is coloring in B&W art ever a good idea? I heard about the upcoming Best of 2000AD collections but the previews that are obviously colored after the fact look pretty lame, although it’s not the worst I’ve seen. Am I just a weirdo for preferring things stayed B&W? There’s a fan trend of coloring in popular manga and I pretty much always think it looks terrible.
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Black & white art is usually drawn with the contrast between black and white in mind, so yeah, introducing colour can turn it into a mess.
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david_a posted:Is coloring in B&W art ever a good idea? I heard about the upcoming Best of 2000AD collections but the previews that are obviously colored after the fact look pretty lame, although it’s not the worst I’ve seen. Am I just a weirdo for preferring things stayed B&W? Scott Pilgrim color edition is good
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david_a posted:Is coloring in B&W art ever a good idea? I heard about the upcoming Best of 2000AD collections but the previews that are obviously colored after the fact look pretty lame, although it’s not the worst I’ve seen. Am I just a weirdo for preferring things stayed B&W? Unless Brink was originally in B&W the only piece of art on that page which was not originally in colour is the Halo Jones spread, which looks pretty good to me.
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