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Is it even possible to get Shingrix in the US if you’re under 50? Maybe by an off-label Rx? Based on what I’ve heard about having shingles, I’d love to get vaxxed for it. But I’m still in my 30s and don’t know that I can.
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Zugzwang posted:Is it even possible to get Shingrix in the US if you’re under 50? Maybe by an off-label Rx? Yeah. You have to get a doctor to prescribe it, and insurance probably won’t cover it, but it’s possible. Expect to pay a couple hundred bucks out of pocket.
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JeffLeonard posted:Got the new Moderna booster + flu shot today. I don't like getting both at the same time because both my arms will be sore for a few days. Did you specifically choose Moderna? I always hear Pfizer has fewer side effects. I've got 3 Pfizer shots now and only had a mild headache.
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Sep 5, 2022 02:33
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Platystemon posted:Yeah.
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Sep 5, 2022 02:41
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I got shingles at 37. Thankfully we have some pretty good anti-viral treatments for it now but lol that we all have to live with it because our parents decided letting chicken pox run wild was fine. No lessons to be learned there...
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Sep 5, 2022 02:43
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The reason they let it run wild is that if you get it for the first time as an adult it is much more dangerous. That also complicates vaccination because if only part of the population gets the vaccine then the portion of people who aren't vaccinated are more likely to get it as adults and you can end up in a worse overall situation. I'd call it a success that the US seems to have implemented vaccination such that that didn't happen--maybe that could have been done sooner but maybe not.
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Sep 5, 2022 03:10
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Mu Zeta posted:I don't like getting both at the same time because both my arms will be sore for a few days. Did you specifically choose Moderna? I always hear Pfizer has fewer side effects. I've got 3 Pfizer shots now and only had a mild headache. I got both in the same arm, not the one I sleep on. This makes 5 shots for me, all Moderna. Never chose Moderna, it just worked out that way. My side effects have always been pretty mild, usually just a day of headache & lethargy. So far so good.
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Scarodactyl posted:The reason they let it run wild is that if you get it for the first time as an adult it is much more dangerous. That also complicates vaccination because if only part of the population gets the vaccine then the portion of people who aren't vaccinated are more likely to get it as adults and you can end up in a worse overall situation. I'd call it a success that the US seems to have implemented vaccination such that that didn't happen--maybe that could have been done sooner but maybe not. Yeah I think the answer is to continue childhood chickenpox vaccines and boost anyone who had wild chickenpox with shingrix at like loving 30 or regular intervals or whatever works
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Sep 5, 2022 04:23
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Cretin90 posted:Weirdly specific question goons. I have to go to a national conference type meeting on Wednesday that will no doubt expose me to at least a bit of covid. (Everyone will be COVID tested immediately before the meeting via lovely RAT tests and I suspect 80%+ will be vaccinated.) Should I even bother getting the updated booster tomorrow or should I wait until after the conference when I’ve confirmed I didn’t catch anything (hopefully) and won’t be getting any additional risk for awhile? I would’ve much preferred to get this updated booster weeks ago but here we are. I would not change booster date unless you actually end up being covid positive on the 16th. the booster buff maxes out around 2-4 weeks after you get it. i don't know how the immune response actually scales between day 1 and max titers. i didn't look too hard, but I cannot find any trials on post-exposure prophylaxis with the mrna vaccines, just papers along the lines of https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8127950/. given the current incubation time of like 5 days i would not put stock on getting anything out of boosting right before you expect to get infected. it sounds like you have/use N95s or equivalent so ideally if you keep your mask on while you're in shared air and nothing fails you will keep the covid out of your mucus membranes. if you have the temptation to not mask during the time that you are in shared air at a big conference, that is a ghost trying to trick you. don't listen to it.
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I wonder how much public money was spent on the EU covid vaccine passport. Does anyone know of an estimate? And all based on a faulty assumption, that being vaccinated prevents you from being contagious... I mean, I thought it was a really cool idea at the time, too, but it looks absolutely silly in retrospect.
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Hippie Hedgehog posted:I wonder how much public money was spent on the EU covid vaccine passport. Does anyone know of an estimate? Here in Australia we had a "covidsafe" app which would ping off other users and if a person tested positive and updated their status on the app it'd send an alert to everyone who'd been a 'close contact' so they knew they needed to go get tested. It cost $21 million and over the 2+ years it was running it only identified 17 close contacts who had not already been picked up by manual contact tracers and found 2 covid cases. That's a cool $10.5 million per case it successfully identified. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-10/covidsafe-app-scrapped-what-went-wrong/101317746 What a bargain!
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I was gonna stick with Moderna because that's what I've always gotten but walgreens didn't have any Moderna so I decided to just go with Pfizer this time. I haven't had barely any side effects even with Moderna. But we'll see
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:LOL you lucky ducks getting to choose, here in Australia we only just got provisional approval for the Moderna bivalent vax and the first shipment still won't arrive for another few weeks and it'll only be the BA.1 bivalent vax and not the BA.5 bivalent vax like in the US, even though cases in Australia at the moment are almost completely BA.5 with a little BA.4 and a tiny tiny amount of BA.2/BA.2.75 and BA.1 almost completely disappeared way back in April. There's no word on whether we'll be getting the BA.5 bivalent vax at all. Here is Switzerland we're still on version 1.0 of the vaccines/boosters. The medical regulator recommended only last week that the Federal Office for Public Health should start the discussion on the bivalent vaccines. Our summer wave never really took off somehow so I'm expecting a lot of people to get sick when school starts up again. Looks like I'm going to get a fourth jab of the OG vax rather than wait for whatever discussions to happen and then navigate the gatekeeping bullshit that happens with every new treatment here.
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Sep 5, 2022 10:23
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I'll be first in line to get it and I'll be bugging all my friends and family to get it as well.
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Cuttlefush posted:I would not change booster date unless you actually end up being covid positive on the 16th. the booster buff maxes out around 2-4 weeks after you get it. i don't know how the immune response actually scales between day 1 and max titers. i didn't look too hard, but I cannot find any trials on post-exposure prophylaxis with the mrna vaccines, just papers along the lines of https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8127950/. given the current incubation time of like 5 days i would not put stock on getting anything out of boosting right before you expect to get infected. Thanks, appreciate the response. I believe the conference will actually be outdoors as well so it’s definitely not a sure thing that I will catch it…. Just a likely thing.
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I’m currently at my in-laws in Montreal, and the city gives boosters to whoever wants one. Even if you’re not Canadian, like me. However, they give the old boosters, and I’ll get the new one, adapted to omicron in about a month or so in Belgium. Should I still get this one? I never got a second booster, Belgium opted to wait for the new ones. Or are these boosters too close to each other?
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mrfart posted:I’m currently at my in-laws in Montreal, and the city gives boosters to whoever wants one. Even if you’re not Canadian, like me. However, they give the old boosters, and I’ll get the new one, adapted to omicron in about a month or so in Belgium. Should I still get this one? I never got a second booster, Belgium opted to wait for the new ones. Or are these boosters too close to each other? I’d get the American omicron booster if you can iirc the European omicron is for BA.1-2 which has pretty much disappeared. US is for BA.5 which is currently running rampant (but 2.75-76 is on the move). They’re not even allowing the original booster in the US anymore. For the record, I was a mere 7 weeks out from my 4th booster when my kid gave me omicron.
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DickParasite posted:I got shingles at 26 after a nasty bout of the flu. I recommend getting it ASAP. My old boss got shingles at 34, and it developed into postherpetic neuralgia that—as far as I know—she still has 3 years later. It was really hosed up watching her be in constant pain to the point that she's fighting back tears sometimes. It ended her military career, and from what I can tell she's still in neverending pain. Ever since I saw that, I've been pretty determined to get the shingles vax, and I don't give a gently caress if it's out-of-pocket. Yes, this is like another case I posted in this thread, and it's depressing
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I'm about to turn 37 and I am very much considering trying to find a doctor who will prescribe me shingles vax, because I am gonna be out of work for a while in march/april no matter what and I am totally down to pay out of pocket and get hosed up by that thing (my boss and my dad had a bad time with it) while I'm getting UI.
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Oracle posted:I’d get the American omicron booster if you can iirc the European omicron is for BA.1-2 which has pretty much disappeared. US is for BA.5 which is currently running rampant (but 2.75-76 is on the move). If I understood correctly, the one here in Montreal isn’t for omicron yet at all.
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mrfart posted:If I understood correctly, the one here in Montreal isn’t for omicron yet at all. Yeah, as far as I know, the earliest deliveries to Canada aren't expected until later this week.
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mrfart posted:If I understood correctly, the one here in Montreal isn’t for omicron yet at all. He asked if he should get the (non omicron) 4th booster in Canada or wait til he got back to Belgium, which is doing its own BA.1 version of an omicron booster. I answered none of the above and to shoot for a BA.5 which far as I know is only available in America, which Montreal is not that far from so Is a realistic option.
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I've seen 3M Aura N95 masks for sale at Home Depot I believe they are the ones that are generally recommended right? Are there different versions of the Aura? I have a 5 hour flight coming up later this month and I will take any recommendations on what N95 to wear for the entire duration of the trip.
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Yep, Aura's are good assuming they fit comfortably on your particular face. Go ahead and buy some and try wearing them for a few hours to see what you're in for. There are different versions but they're harder to find. One has woven nylon straps instead of rubber and another has an exhale valve though that one is tighter on the face for some reason. I used to wear Auras all day at work but I ended up switching to the 3M VFlex because they're even more comfortable on my face. Kinda odd looking though.
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I got shingles in my early twenties and the spot still feels like it’s burning sometimes.
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Oracle posted:He asked if he should get the (non omicron) 4th booster in Canada or wait til he got back to Belgium, which is doing its own BA.1 version of an omicron booster. I answered none of the above and to shoot for a BA.5 which far as I know is only available in America, which Montreal is not that far from so Is a realistic option. Getting an ESTA can be a pain in the rear end though, so it might not be a realistic option to go to the US for a booster.
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McCracAttack posted:Yep, Aura's are good assuming they fit comfortably on your particular face. Go ahead and buy some and try wearing them for a few hours to see what you're in for. There are different versions but they're harder to find. One has woven nylon straps instead of rubber and another has an exhale valve though that one is tighter on the face for some reason. I've been using the 3M V-Flex masks when I actually go to the office because I can speak through them way more clearly than with other masks. They aren't the most comfortable masks I've used, and tend to leave very obvious marks on my face where they seal, but feel like good protection and really help improve my ability to communicate verbally.
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:My old boss got shingles at 34, and it developed into postherpetic neuralgia that—as far as I know—she still has 3 years later. It was really hosed up watching her be in constant pain to the point that she's fighting back tears sometimes. It ended her military career, and from what I can tell she's still in neverending pain. The shingles vax is an every 3 years one. When I had shingles I was like "I would pay any amount of money to make this go away" but afterward it went away $300 every 3 years seemed like too much. Can't wait for future me to curse my penny pinching ways when I inevitably get it again.
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I had no idea I could get shingles before 50. I had chicken pox as a child, and never had a vaccine for it. I guess I have to figure out what they call shingles where I live and how much a vaccine costs. Just give me all the vaccines please.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:I've been using the 3M V-Flex masks when I actually go to the office because I can speak through them way more clearly than with other masks. They aren't the most comfortable masks I've used, and tend to leave very obvious marks on my face where they seal, but feel like good protection and really help improve my ability to communicate verbally. Yeah there's just no substitute for trying on a bunch and seeing what fits your face. Long term comfort is also very different than initial comfort. A mask may just be "okay" when you first put it on but if it still feels "okay" at the end of a 9 hour work day that's an important factor. I've got some "comfortable" masks that actually hurt my nose after 4 hours.
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binge crotching posted:Getting an ESTA can be a pain in the rear end though, so it might not be a realistic option to go to the US for a booster. I got an esta, because I’m meeting up with US friends tomorrow. But I doubt the cabin at a lake in Vermont is anywhere near a vaccination center, nor do I think a non US citizen can get vaccinated?
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Facebook Aunt posted:The shingles vax is an every 3 years one. When I had shingles I was like "I would pay any amount of money to make this go away" but afterward it went away $300 every 3 years seemed like too much. Can't wait for future me to curse my penny pinching ways when I inevitably get it again. Oh holy crap really?? I apologize for giving the wrong info here and will go edit my post!!!
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Facebook Aunt posted:The shingles vax is an every 3 years one. When I had shingles I was like "I would pay any amount of money to make this go away" but afterward it went away $300 every 3 years seemed like too much. Can't wait for future me to curse my penny pinching ways when I inevitably get it again. Spinz posted:Oh holy crap really?? There are multiple shingles vaccines. quote:Shingrix provides strong protection against shingles and PHN. In adults 50 years and older who have healthy immune systems, Shingrix is more than 90% effective at preventing shingles and PHN. Immunity stays strong for at least the first 7 years after vaccination. In adults with weakened immune systems, studies show that Shingrix is 68%-91% effective in preventing shingles, depending on the condition that affects the immune system.
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i just did a search to see if the bivalent booster is available in my city and it says it's coming "after labor day" so i'll check back next week i suppose. i'm a little pissed that this poo poo is being made available so late after it was developed though since i finally caught covid a couple of weeks ago after having been infection-free for two years. i also had a second booster shot scheduled a couple weeks before i was infected but i canceled hoping that the bivalents would be made available here (and i didnt want to make myself ineligible for receiving the new one compared to a potentially less effective OG covid formula one). better late than never i suppose. im on a college campus and all the kiddos are back and don't have to mask indoors, seems like a recipe for supercovid or something but idk maybe i just have doomer brain poisoning from catching a """"mild"""" case and feeling super scary sick for a couple of days.
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mrfart posted:I got an esta, because I’m meeting up with US friends tomorrow. But I doubt the cabin at a lake in Vermont is anywhere near a vaccination center, nor do I think a non US citizen can get vaccinated? Vermont will likely have plenty of vaccination centers because it’s one of the least chudy states, and my Thai relatives were telling me about chartered plane loads of rich Thais jetting into California for shots, so no, they don’t care. You’re on vacation and didn’t bring your id but saw the shots were available and figured hell with it. They’ll hook you up. Just make sure to tell them you’re fully vaxxed.
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Charliegrs posted:I've seen 3M Aura N95 masks for sale at Home Depot I believe they are the ones that are generally recommended right? Are there different versions of the Aura? I have a 5 hour flight coming up later this month and I will take any recommendations on what N95 to wear for the entire duration of the trip. i have a big melon and the ones with threaded straps dont fit my dome. the blue elastic ones fit amazingly well tho.
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i did the dumb thing and tried to wear powercom kn95’s instead of my auras at school so i’d seem ~*~less weird~*~* but theyre so uncomfortable for long periods i said gently caress it and switched back to auras. they are without a doubt the most comfortable masks ive worn, n95 or otherwise.
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McCracAttack posted:Yeah there's just no substitute for trying on a bunch and seeing what fits your face. Long term comfort is also very different than initial comfort. A mask may just be "okay" when you first put it on but if it still feels "okay" at the end of a 9 hour work day that's an important factor. I've got some "comfortable" masks that actually hurt my nose after 4 hours. I have two sets of N95's for this reason: one I can wear long-term at work, and another one that I wear at the gym. The gym-one is annoying to wear because it folds easy (but is very secure so it doesn't leave my head), but my regular one has a longer snout so if I'm doing military presses or something it gets in the way.
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Charliegrs posted:I've seen 3M Aura N95 masks for sale at Home Depot I believe they are the ones that are generally recommended right? Are there different versions of the Aura? I have a 5 hour flight coming up later this month and I will take any recommendations on what N95 to wear for the entire duration of the trip. The Aura 9205 is the one I bought at Home Depot, with the blue elastic straps. the straps snap REALLY easily, so I splurged a whole dollar on 6 feet of fabric elastic at the dollar store and stapled backup straps onto it. Aura 9210s seem like the exact same mask with the better straps pre-installed, but I haven't seen a store nearby actually ordering them in. Hellblazer187 posted:I had no idea I could get shingles before 50. I had chicken pox as a child, and never had a vaccine for it. I had what I think was shingles in my late 30s. I got a crazy weird rash on my shoulder blade and it scarred really badly and still feels kind of numb. I had chicken pox BAD when I was a kid, so I assume my body is like 40% viral material at this point. I had them on my tonsils, on my eyelids, inside my ears. My doctor was like "holy poo poo" which is not reassuring when you're a 9 year old kid. And then all my friends were told to come over and play because their moms wanted them to get it over with too 
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Zil posted:I'm scheduled for my bivalent booster and flu shot next Saturday. If you are old enough to have gotten chicken pox and not the vaccine as a kid, definitely get the shingles vaccine as soon as they let you. I got shingles in my 20s somehow and it was absolutely miserable. I'm fortunate in that I had no permanent damage, but you do not want shingles it's no joke.
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