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chaosapiant posted:Didn’t he originally start writing the GOT novels because he was tired of writing for TV, and wanted to write about as many characters and locations as he could that would be too expensive and confusing for a TV audience? Yea but now the tv network will bend to his every whim.
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chaosapiant posted:Didn’t he originally start writing the GOT novels because he was tired of writing for TV, and wanted to write about as many characters and locations as he could that would be too expensive and confusing for a TV audience? It's more that he was leaving Hollywood at the time, anyway. His line about being able to include more into a book was just him talking about how freeing it was to go from TV back to books.
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Arc Hammer posted:The big CGI production houses have been on a decline for several years as more and more studios demand their work and animators are grist to be ground in the mill. COVID-19 didn't help matters because the safety measures means fewer actors are legally allowed to be on set so more green screen and composite shots are required to fill out the crowds. Even more work for overworked animators. I don't understand how an uptick in work would lead to a production house's decline. That seems counter-intuitive. Even if there is a shortage of workers to burn through, that demand can be met overseas - not to mention the loving hordes of young animators / 3d modellers our there. The biggest threat to these places ( from my limited experience ) is maintaining the large staff necessary for projects. You need a ton of people for a project and to keep all those people employed you need a stable pipeline of new projects. It doesn't take much for a digital studio to go under - but too much work is an amazing problem to have.
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The CGI in Rings of Power is absolutely impeccable so I guess Bezos didn’t cheap out.
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TERFherder posted:I don't understand how an uptick in work would lead to a production house's decline. That seems counter-intuitive. Even if there is a shortage of workers to burn through, that demand can be met overseas - not to mention the loving hordes of young animators / 3d modellers our there. The biggest threat to these places ( from my limited experience ) is maintaining the large staff necessary for projects. You need a ton of people for a project and to keep all those people employed you need a stable pipeline of new projects. It doesn't take much for a digital studio to go under - but too much work is an amazing problem to have. There's no breathing room in the industry right now, which leads to decline and cannibalisation. You can't skill up workers if you're constantly churning though people who just graduated from college or whose training comes from certification mills and YouTube tutorials. Having too much work is a great problem, having too much work that is basically the same 101/201 level stuff over and over plus crunched timelines leads to corner cutting, ignoring investment in infrastructure, and general mismanagement. This isn't a problem unique to VFX by any means but VFX is a case study where you can see the ripple effects (lovely CGI, burned out staff, etc) in relatively real time. Shimrra Jamaane posted:The CGI in Rings of Power is absolutely impeccable so I guess Bezos didn’t cheap out. Is it actually good? I saw some clips from the Galadriel ice troll fight that looked pretty dire but maybe that was an outlier.
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Mat Cauthon posted:Is it actually good? I saw some clips from the Galadriel ice troll fight that looked pretty dire but maybe that was an outlier. Literally everything else in the show so far has been absolutely bonkers gorgeous. It makes House of the Dragon look like a really well done episode of Xena. And I think the CG in HOTD is pretty good too.
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Rings of power definitely has a leg up in that they're venturing across tons of beautiful natural landscapes while HOTD is stuck in castles we've seen plenty of
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Is Rings of Power a retelling of The Lord of the Rings, or something else spun off from Silmarillion or something like that?
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chaosapiant posted:Is Rings of Power a retelling of The Lord of the Rings, or something else spun off from Silmarillion or something like that? It's inspired by the stories set during the Second Age. Think of it as a prequel to the prologue scene from the Fellowship of the Ring film.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The CGI in Rings of Power is absolutely impeccable so I guess Bezos didn’t cheap out. nah, it looks too much like video games
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chaosapiant posted:Is Rings of Power a retelling of The Lord of the Rings, or something else spun off from Silmarillion or something like that? it's about lotr appendix
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chaosapiant posted:Is Rings of Power a retelling of The Lord of the Rings, or something else spun off from Silmarillion or something like that? It’s pulled from material from the appendices of Return of the King, which includes some overlap with content in the Silmarillion. So the show can include whatever is located there, but where there are gaps that the Silmarillion might fill, it has to zag.
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The new show is extremely boring to me so far
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Yea it’s pretty underwhelming overall.
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Haven't had the chance to check out the new show yet since my friend's media server has been down  The costumes look incredibly nice and I'm curious how the styles will shift after the time jump. I just love dresses 
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RC Cola posted:The new show is extremely boring to me so far Rings of Power has managed to hold my attention way better so far than House of the Dragon has, I find. The only time the show comes alive is when Daemon is on screen doing poo poo.
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Sep 5, 2022 21:05
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nine-gear crow posted:Rings of Power has managed to hold my attention way better so far than House of the Dragon has, I find. The only time the show comes alive is when Daemon is on screen doing poo poo. I am incredibly biased but personally I find Tolkien’s extended writings regarding his legendarium just so much more fascinating and imaginative than GRRM’s nebulously pop history-Medieval but with dragons and maybe magic who knows setting. And that’s accounting for Rings of Power having to take huge creative license with the source material.
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TERFherder posted:I don't understand how an uptick in work would lead to a production house's decline. That seems counter-intuitive. Even if there is a shortage of workers to burn through, that demand can be met overseas - not to mention the loving hordes of young animators / 3d modellers our there. The biggest threat to these places ( from my limited experience ) is maintaining the large staff necessary for projects. You need a ton of people for a project and to keep all those people employed you need a stable pipeline of new projects. It doesn't take much for a digital studio to go under - but too much work is an amazing problem to have. outsourcing to overseas teams is not nesessarily a smooth process, new hires has less experience and are often net-negative in terms of value added for the first year or two of their tenure nine-gear crow posted:Rings of Power has managed to hold my attention way better so far than House of the Dragon has, I find. The only time the show comes alive is when Daemon is on screen doing poo poo. I like the Viserys actor more and more as the show goes on
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Deptfordx posted:That would make an incredible amount of sense. Which means it's probably not going to happen. you could do hedge knight/sworn sword/mystery knight in 1 season prob those stories are really self-contained
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Typo posted:I like the Viserys actor more and more as the show goes on He’s been fantastic. I’ve never seen a performance get across better the “Heavy is the head that wears the crown” idea.
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kaworu posted:I also really hope that’s the direction they head in, I mean…. I think maybe they could stretch the material out to three arson’s if they include the whole winding-down of the Dance of Dragons - meaning stuff like The Hour of the Wolf, Tyland Lannister’s fascinating and selfless reign as a disfigured and castrated Hand to a boy-king he once tried to have killed, all the stuff with Unwin Peake trying to repeatedly grab power, the early adventures of Alyn Oakenfist. The hour of the wolf is logically the last eps or two of the DoD arch to wrap everything up every "main" character we see now except Corlys will be dead by then anyway, having fan-favorite Stark guy wrapping up the fate of the remaining characters is logically how you would end it
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MrMojok posted:He’s been fantastic. I’ve never seen a performance get across better the “Heavy is the head that wears the crown” idea. I love the way he's playing Viserys's slow degeneration over the years with each episode, and how in this last one you can't really tell if his various outbursts are either that good old Targaryen Crazy™ starting to rear its ugly head and he gets closer and closer to death, or if he's just that goddamn fed up with all the bullshit in his life and everyone around him.
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Hot D is ok at best, I mean it's well done with the costumes etc. but it feels like a rather boring Game of Thrones remix with slightly different characters (most of which have same last names as GoT characters) Haven't read Fire & Blood but I've read the relevant parts of the Targ history from ASOIAF wiki years ago or whatever and even though I know there's a war and whatever other conflict coming, it's still just not very interesting to watch Granted, Rings of Power has the same "issue" that I know the story they're going to tell (not a problem really, first three seasons of GoT were the same before it went off the railz and it didn't bother me in the slightest), but even just two episodes in it's managed to be more engaging and visually more interesting than more of the same GoT style we just had eight seasons worth Gonna watch 'em both anyway tho  e: it's funny is that the first HotD episode had a bunch of obligatory T&A for obvious reasons, this is the adult GRRM fantasy series but I don't think there's been a titty on screen ever since which is just fine since no one needs another play with her arse ALLAN LASSUS fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Sep 5, 2022 |
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I keep harping on this, but I feel more engaged with Rings at the moment because I can loving hear the lines. There was a scene in Hot D last night where characters were all whispering important dialogue at a feast, and the sound of food hitting plates was twice as loud as any one actor's voice. I still like Hot D. Its main problem is that it is setting up so much and nobody would have put up with it this far if Paddy wasn't carrying all of his scenes.
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I feel like sound mixing in general has gotten a lot worse over the years. Seriously, why would you let music and background noise overtake the spoken dialouge. This isn't nitpicking one specific show I feel like it's everywhere
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The throne in that famous fanart is eye-rollingly grimdark.
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Pennsylvanian posted:I keep harping on this, but I feel more engaged with Rings at the moment because I can loving hear the lines. There was a scene in Hot D last night where characters were all whispering important dialogue at a feast, and the sound of food hitting plates was twice as loud as any one actor's voice. lol yeah, i had to use subtitles to understand what the were mumbling about
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^^^What kid of soundbar/audio setup do you have? I'm in a high ceiling loft and had to focus my speakers and soundbar and still have issues due to the 15ft ceilings, and am having no issues with it. I'm enjoying HotD and feel that Rings is a slog. I know this is the book forum, but HotD is just so much better at telling things visually. Like, the hunt in the last episode was an excellent way to explain 3 years of development and where characters are, and only half was done qith dialogue and exposition, while the rest was done with visual language. Rings is just too much talking and exposition, where ita nit using its medium and just making me rather read it if it's all going to be text anyway. Darko fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Sep 6, 2022 |
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Happy Landfill posted:I feel like sound mixing in general has gotten a lot worse over the years. Seriously, why would you let music and background noise overtake the spoken dialouge. This isn't nitpicking one specific show I feel like it's everywhere Yeah, it's why I've kind of given up on a lot of TV and movies. I'm willing to watch subtitles for non-English movies, but I'm tired of needing them in so many English-speaking shows just because for some reason a door closing in the background needs to be as loud as a sonic boom while austere British actors are mumbling to each other from across the room. People try to blame it on sound setups, too. No matter what the setup or room, it's bad everywhere and I'm really tired of having to be ready on the volume at home or just having to deal with it in theatres.
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It does make me laugh how Game of Thrones and now House of the Dragon devide to go splatter film whenever it comes time to show blood and gore. That boar didn't stand a chance.
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I've always watched TV shows with subtitles, I've always had trouble understanding dialogue over loud background noises wtihout them
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Arc Hammer posted:Episode was pretty boring and the ending scene dragged out way too long. There was like three or four moments where I was like "what the gently caress is even happening? Who the gently caress is THAT guy? Wait, who's dead and who isn't?" Like seriously, who was that dude who showed up on the Dragon to save Daemon's rear end?
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I'm assuming he was one of Viserys's dragon riders. Would have been nice if they mentioned him at all and didn't spend five minutes if silence making it look like Damon was going to surrender just to spite Viserys when we know it's a fake fakeout.
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Arc Hammer posted:I'm assuming he was one of Viserys's dragon riders. Would have been nice if they mentioned him at all and didn't spend five minutes if silence making it look like Damon was going to surrender just to spite Viserys when we know it's a fake fakeout. Yeah, like why did he get mad and beat the poo poo out of the messenger for giving him... the exact news that he wanted to hear and was hoping for this whole time? You know, the thing he sent that letter to Viserys that was like "Yo, bro, they're beating my rear end here, I think I've made a mistake. HELP ME!" about? I mean, I love what a messy, spiteful, contrarian drama bitch Daemon Targaryen is, but that was just... uh...  I honestly thought for a second that Viserys had pulled a switcheroo on him and actually sent a "Lol git fukd" letter to him for some reason at the last second. It was so poorly conveyed. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 05:38 on Sep 6, 2022 |
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I mean this whole conflict with the Crab man has been poorly conveyed. They kept cutting to him every so often for three episodes building up this mystery. Then when the time comes for a confrontation, we get nothing from the Crab man and Matt Smith comes back with his torso. Crab man is like Boba fett but less cool.
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The dragon rider was Velaryon's older kid, there was like a split second where you could see his hair It was probably meant as a rather important plot point with all the pureblood Valyrian talk and marrying him off to Rhaenyra, but... yeah
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nine-gear crow posted:Yeah, like why did he get mad and beat the poo poo out of the messenger for giving him... the exact news that he wanted to hear and was hoping for this whole time? You know, the thing he sent that letter to Viserys that was like "Yo, bro, they're beating my rear end here, I think I've made a mistake. HELP ME!" about? Daemon didn’t send for help, Corlys’ brother did (Vaemond, the other Velaryon at the war council that received the letter).
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ruddiger posted:Daemon didn’t send for help, Corlys’ brother did (Vaemond, the other Velaryon at the war council that received the letter). Ah, I'd heard "Daemon" instead of "Vaedmond" because, again, the sound mixing on this show kinda sucks.
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