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Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Coolness Averted posted:

if communism is so good for black people than why did the US government murder every black communist leader?

Checkmate

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ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

GOAT with the jugs posted:

his question is correct?

His response to every example of African socialism is "America killed them so it's bad"

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

ContinuityNewTimes posted:

His response to every example of African socialism is "America killed them so it's bad"

I feel like the wrong message was taken from the black panther movie

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

ContinuityNewTimes posted:

His response to every example of African socialism is "America killed them so it's bad"

I Iike that he at one point specifically says, "look I'm not supporting any systems I'm just talking about what benefits my family."
That's actually a kind of honesty. Like yeah if you set the criteria at "I, a decently off person benefit from capitalism. Give me a real world example of a better system for me, a minor capitalist to thrive in" capitalism is kinda cool

Oh no the world will be an uninhabitable hellscape in 3 generations tops? Well I get funny cakes

Halser
Aug 24, 2016

ContinuityNewTimes posted:

His response to every example of African socialism is "America killed them so it's bad"

funny that when a socialist state fails because they get obliterated by america it just shows how flawed socialism is, but when a capitalist state is a hellhole(you know, vast majority of african states) it's just a thousand edge cases

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

In most alternative systems, musk's quality of life would decrease. But under communism, there would be no life too have a quality.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

BonHair posted:

In most alternative systems, musk's quality of life would decrease. But under communism, there would be no life too have a quality.

I support any system that will reduce elon musk's quality of life, to varying degrees

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



e: wrong threaaaaaaadd

Unless has issued a correction as of 21:56 on Sep 4, 2022

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

moot the hopple
Apr 26, 2008

dyslexic Bowie clone

Coolness Averted posted:

I Iike that he at one point specifically says, "look I'm not supporting any systems I'm just talking about what benefits my family."
That's actually a kind of honesty. Like yeah if you set the criteria at "I, a decently off person benefit from capitalism. Give me a real world example of a better system for me, a minor capitalist to thrive in" capitalism is kinda cool

Oh no the world will be an uninhabitable hellscape in 3 generations tops? Well I get funny cakes


Sometimes it's an attitude as simple as "gently caress you, got mine". Why strive for something better when you've already lucked out into having all you (presently) need? And when he see his children struggle, he's going to think that his generation was just better and more hardworking and not because the unsustainable system is on a downward spiral

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010


Sure just turn off the heat and let all your pipes freeze and explode while you're gone to save lots of money!

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


brits complaining about the heat and then complaining about the cold. never happy

COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

hobbesmaster posted:

I feel like the wrong message was taken from the black panther movie

The intended one?

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

oh the ted cruz manoeuvre?

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

Shame Boy posted:

Sure just turn off the heat and let all your pipes freeze and explode while you're gone to save lots of money!

I done it before. Drained the pipes first though.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Jazerus posted:

brits complaining about the heat and then complaining about the cold. never happy

Bloody whinging Poms.

Blockade
Oct 22, 2008

evilpicard posted:

When I work with business owners 99% of my job is trying to convince them to do the extremely obvious thing that they need to save their business.

i was briefly a consultant and a lot of it was convincing businesses they need to do inventory and keep track of work hours

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Blockade posted:

i was briefly a consultant and a lot of it was convincing businesses they need to do inventory and keep track of work hours

This is the best consulting. Paying a bunch of money to someone from outside to tell management what the rest of the company has been screaming at them for years, and which is painfully obvious.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

We had a bunch of consultants come in over the years, but none of them came up with the true solution I (and our biggest customer*) had been talking about for literally more than a decade: get rid of the manager. Then he died and we haven't needed consultants.

*) Their exact words were: "That fatso is not coming to the meetings."

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
Getting rid of at least part of existing management is the solution over 90% of the time but it’s management that hires consultants sooooo

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Weatherman posted:

oh the ted cruz manoeuvre?

that’s next week

COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

Orange Devil posted:

Getting rid of at least part of existing management is the solution over 90% of the time but it’s management that hires consultants sooooo

In my experience it's usually one of give your managers authority to do their job or fire them

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/scottygb/status/1566748685341425664

smh it's not Black Mirror, it's the 1987 movie The Running Man :argh:

Zvahl
Oct 14, 2005

научный кот

ekuNNN posted:

smh it's not Black Mirror, it's the 1987 movie The Running Man :argh:

we don't get anything anywhere near as entertaining as a richard dawson in 2022 are you kidding

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

Blockade posted:

i was briefly a consultant and a lot of it was convincing businesses they need to do inventory and keep track of work hours

We had a pair of clients who made a decent chunk of money from selling her dental practice and then decided to invest it in a franchised store.

Unsurprisingly it lasted only a few years. For reference, I remember hearing my boss have to explain to the client over the phone what an "impulse purchase" is and why he should have an idea on what does and doesn't sell at this point.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

evilpicard posted:

In my experience it's usually one of give your managers authority to do their job or fire them

Yeah that sounds right. But then if managers don't have authority to do their job it's because managers higher up are loving things up and it is them that should be fired.

That Old Ganon
Jan 2, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER
My job (like, the three salaried people) has sensed our (the hourlies) disgruntlement and maybe caught wind we're trying to organize. What did they do? Give us a raise? A placating bonus?

No, they mega pizza-partied us and threw an "Employee Appreciation Fair," with a dunk tank and face painting or some poo poo.

SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

Hold that pose.
I've gotta get something.

That Old Ganon posted:

My job (like, the three salaried people) has sensed our (the hourlies) disgruntlement and maybe caught wind we're trying to organize. What did they do? Give us a raise? A placating bonus?

No, they mega pizza-partied us and threw an "Employee Appreciation Fair," with a dunk tank and face painting or some poo poo.

Whoa, lucky! Maybe next week they'll wheel in the AV cart and have a movie day!

Tiberius Christ
Mar 4, 2009

Sounds like they've got money to spend on higher wages

That Old Ganon
Jan 2, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER
They've got weed money, they can do whatever they drat well please.

That Old Ganon
Jan 2, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Other than pay us more, of course

19 o'clock
Sep 9, 2004

Excelsior!!!

That Old Ganon posted:

Other than pay us more, of course

is the general wisdom still "3x your gross income" when budgeting for a house? because I'm overpaid and I can't find poo poo by that math.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

3.5x is straight up the law here in Ireland. To buy an apartment in a city you need to be earning over 70K.

But don't worry. If you can't afford that you can simply rent! (For more than double what the mortage would cost per month lmao good luck saving)

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!

quote:

You know, economists tell us that your automobile should not cost more than half of your annual income. So
if you make an income of five thousand dollars, your car shouldn't cost more than about twenty-five hundred.
That's just good economics. And if it's a family of two, and both members of the family make ten thousand
dollars, they would have to make out with one car. That would be good economics, although it's often
inconvenient. But so often, haven't you seen people making five thousand dollars a year and driving a car
that costs six thousand? And they wonder why their ends never meet. [laughter] That's a fact.

Now the economists also say that your house shouldn't cost—if you're buying a house, it shouldn't cost more
than twice your income. That's based on the economy and how you would make ends meet. So, if you have
an income of five thousand dollars, it's kind of difficult in this society. But say it's a family with an income of
ten thousand dollars, the house shouldn't cost much more than twenty thousand. Well, I've seen folk making
ten thousand dollars, living in a forty- and fifty-thousand-dollar house. And you know they just barely make it.
They get a check every month somewhere, and they owe all of that out before it comes in. Never have
anything to put away for rainy days.

But now the problem is, it is the drum major instinct. And you know, you see people over and over again with
the drum major instinct taking them over. And they just live their lives trying to outdo the Joneses. (Amen)
They got to get this coat because this particular coat is a little better and a little better-looking than Mary's
coat. And I got to drive this car because it's something about this car that makes my car a little better than
my neighbor's car. (Amen) I know a man who used to live in a thirty-five-thousand-dollar house. And other
people started building thirty-five-thousand-dollar houses, so he built a seventy-five-thousand-dollar house.
And then somebody else built a seventy-five-thousand-dollar house, and he built a hundred-thousand-dollar
house. And I don't know where he's going to end up if he's going to live his life trying to keep up with the
Joneses

edit: 1968

Mola Yam has issued a correction as of 02:33 on Sep 6, 2022

19 o'clock
Sep 9, 2004

Excelsior!!!

Spatial posted:

3.5x is straight up the law here in Ireland. To buy an apartment in a city you need to be earning over 70K.

But don't worry. If you can't afford that you can simply rent! (For more than double what the mortage would cost per month lmao good luck saving)

fuckin hell. glad to know it’s terrible everywhere, then. lol.

told my boss if I can’t buy a home by Christmas I’m leaving. I wonder how he’s gonna feel about it.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

I feel like I should probably bite the bullet and buy a place instead of renting but also this is florida and by the time the mortgage is paid off I'm pretty sure it will rather literally be underwater sooo

wash bucket
Feb 21, 2006

https://twitter.com/M1cTheMiracle/status/1566845456046596097

$2 million but you gotta poo poo in your bedroom.

Hollandia
Jul 27, 2007

rattus rattus


Grimey Drawer
The camera moves like a drat Doom level

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.
That's a spite house, isn't it?

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VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.
Air conditioner in literally like the worst spot to put it.
making GBS threads in your bedroom while your partner tries to sleep.
No bathroom or shower.

WORTH IT

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