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JollyBoyJohn posted:Pirating stuff is really very lame. Maybe if you are a young kid with no money and too much free time but no serious adult gamer should be at it Nah pirating stuff is awesome. Especially poo poo like textbooks that have wildly inflates prices because of forced monopolies l
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 "why don't these peasants simply BUY more things? they are like children!"
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QuarkJets posted:I say boycott Steam and Epic, use GOG Galaxy exclusively. You can connect it to your Steam and Epic libraries so you just have 1 launcher instead of 3+. I've never even looked at the GOG app because you can just download the installers from the website so I didn't see any reason to ever bother with it, but if it replaces multiple other lovely apps then I guess I've been missing out. Fur20 posted:The worst(?) part of Sleeping Dogs is when you're trying to go between missions and then the social gaming prompts pop up like "your friend car surfed in the wrong lane above 60kmph for FIVE MINUTES STRAIGHT this is how close you are to beating their record" and then you spend the next forty minutes barreling down the wrong lane at maximum speed, by which point you've lost the thread of the plot.
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Pirating stuff is really very lame. Maybe if you are a young kid with no money and too much free time but no serious adult gamer should be at it I am a grownup and I buy games I play but if I'm not sure I will try before I buy np
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Steam has the biggest catalogue or hentai visual novels and match 3 games and an official deck to play them in public. Steam wins.
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i don't pirate AAA games any more because they are a billion gigabytes and I'd rather use that space for 50,000 pirated role-playing books. also they're all rubbish i pay for indy games because the money actually goes to a game making person and not a vampire ghoul capitalist
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JollyBoyJohn posted:What was the last game you pirated that you played for more than 15 minutes before just getting stoned and loading up rocket leauge Cult of the lamb. I basically just play short indie games but aye mostly rocket league in between lol Edit. Oh wait I actually bought cult of the lamb apparently. I can't keep track of my life. Looks like the last I pirated and completed was rdr2 Panic! At The Tesco fucked around with this message at 13:18 on Sep 6, 2022 |
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Rutibex posted:i don't pirate AAA games any more because they are a billion gigabytes and I'd rather use that space for 50,000 pirated role-playing books. also they're all rubbish I can't believe we agree on something
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AAA games cost so much in Brazil, like some of them cost half what lower class people make in a month, some cost 200 usd which is an ungodly amount of money here. If you're lower middle class you get to buy 4 of them before you run out of your monthly income. The people I know who are into AAA only or console games are some of the poorest most broke motherfuckers I've ever seen.
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Elentor posted:AAA games cost so much in Brazil, like some of them cost half what lower class people make in a month, some cost 200 usd which is an ungodly amount of money here. If you're lower middle class you get to buy 4 of them before you run out of your monthly income. Imagine going broke because you can't wait until The Last of Us: Part 1 has been discounted to what it's actually worth. I liked it on PS3 but I couldn't be bothered to finish my PS4 playthrough. On the other hand, I'm on my 4th playthrough of The Evil Within, and just need to finish Akumu difficulty for the platinum. It's a much more janky game that TLOU but is jam-packed with great ideas for setpieces that are really challenging to get through.
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That loving Sned posted:Imagine going broke because you can't wait until The Last of Us: Part 1 has been discounted to what it's actually worth. I'm not sure they get discounted to acceptable prices. We also do the lovely practice of doing this:  There isn't a practical black friday. The days before sales, product prices go up (sometimes drastically and always shamelessly) so that when the sales happen the products cost as much, or more, than before. We call it "black fraud". We still sell the sega genesis for the same price as when it was released, but to make up for it everything else goes up so much that it's literally cheaper at times to travel to the US, buy a console, and travel back, and our ticket prices are ludicrous. The PS3 was released costing 3700 USD back when it was costing 600 USD in the US.
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i just pirated ff7r and played through it last month because se really wants 70 bucks for that poo poo lol they can gently caress off
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AAA gaming has become so stagnant that I am currently replaying a game from literally 10 years ago (Dragon’s Dogma) and you could believe it was made today. In fact I’d say AAA gaming has outright gone backwards, Dragon’s Dogma at least has fun fast paced gameplay and a near non existent excuse-story instead of being “hold forward until cutscene/quicktime event” .
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Pirating stuff is really very lame. Maybe if you are a young kid with no money and too much free time but no serious adult gamer should be at it sharing stuff for free is awesome admittedly i don't pirate steam games but i love to illegally download ebooks and read them on my kindle it's like a library but the size of the whole internet emulation is neat too, play Symphony of the Night! Tiggum posted:Wait. You can buy games on the Epic or Steam websites and then download and run them through the GOG app? Is that what you're saying? you have to have the steam and epic apps installed, gog galaxy (and playnite which does the same thing but better) just talks to the other apps locally to consolidate all that crap into one library screen that has all the different stores. depending on how good the apis are some storefronts will let you install/uninstall stuff you own through a third party client but for others hitting the button will just pop open the window for the 'real' store app for you to do it there.
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:you have to have the steam and epic apps installed, gog galaxy (and playnite which does the same thing but better) just talks to the other apps locally to consolidate all that crap into one library screen that has all the different stores. So it's a complicated way to almost do something worthwhile?
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FoolyCharged posted:Nah pirating stuff is awesome. Especially poo poo like textbooks that have wildly inflates prices because of forced monopolies l I used to work for Follett, if you can pirate a textbook always do so
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Elentor posted:I'm not sure they get discounted to acceptable prices. We also do the lovely practice of doing this: That anecdote about the genesis is insane, but I don't doubt it. Lol at anyone who would actually travel to the US to buy a console though. I also live in South America, though not Brazil. I've been out of the console game niche for some time but it's extremely common here to have your console modded to run pirate games (at least up until the PS2 era, though I'm sure at least the PS3 has received similar treatment) and then you can go buy pirated discs at a street market for local currency equivalent of 3 dollars and have a blast. Microsoft and Nintendo consoles were pretty unpopular here until the Switch, so not sure if the same thing happened as frequently for those. As far as the discussion at hand, I feel like at some point I saw that a significant % of piracy is by individuals who would never buy the product anyway, mostly because they couldn't afford to. I feel no qualms about trying before I buy and attempting to mostly focus on my purchases on indy developers or, outside of games, otherwise low-scale producers. Libgen and sci-hub got me through university. Also a hearty lol at the poster who said "piracy is very bad" and their complete lack of perspective about people who can't drop 100 bucks on Total War Warhammer 3 + DLC because that's money for two weeks of food. Those people clearly just shouldn't play games at all!! Tosk fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Sep 6, 2022 |
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It's important that poorer people can play videogames so that they can admire all the cool skins the richer players bought.
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I've def bought some stupid cosmetic poo poo from a game simply because I thought the dev deserved an extra $4.99. I mean, only once....
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I bought the rocket league rocket pass once, and I play it so much I always get enough free credits for the next one. I honestly rarely use any of the cosmetics but it's all gonna be worth it after all 'cos tomorrow they're adding a '90s honda civic which is similar to one I used to have irl.
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can i have some of ur money then plz?
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Sometimes i pay for games just because im too lazy to pirate them
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JollyBoyJohn posted:What was the last game you pirated that you played for more than 15 minutes before just getting stoned and loading up rocket leauge cyberpunk, and humankind. both were interesting to play, but neither were actually worth spending any money on precision posted:i pay for indie games this but also i pay for mid-size studio games too. site posted:i just pirated ff7r and played through it last month because se really wants 70 bucks for that poo poo lol they can gently caress off Square Enix is a company I unapologetically pirate 100% of my consumed media from. gently caress them, gently caress their CEO, and gently caress their "we realize that some people play games to have fun, but we're more interested in a different market" bullshit. I declare g*mer jihad against them
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I pirate square games becuase i need those roms to make the randomizers work Never play a squaresoft game larger than 5 megabytes
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site posted:i just pirated ff7r and played through it last month because se really wants 70 bucks for that poo poo lol they can gently caress off i paid full price day 1 and after about 8 hours just thought gently caress this, it's not what i want and i can't tell which of us got owned more
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I buy skins in games because they're pretty and I want my character to look pretty and/or ugly in specific ways.
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City of Heroes is the best game because it had a character creator worth a drat as opposed to one with 30 different sliders that barely do anything. BUT BUT BUT you'll ruin your immersion if your character has pink hair!
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JollyBoyJohn posted:i paid full price day 1 and after about 8 hours just thought gently caress this, it's not what i want and i can't tell which of us got owned more It was definitely you
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Elentor posted:I'm not sure they get discounted to acceptable prices. We also do the lovely practice of doing this: i worked for a toy company that got approached by a distributor about doing business in brazil and the import taxes made everything a resounding nope. i assume that's what happens?
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Elentor posted:I buy skins in games because they're pretty and I want my character to look pretty and/or ugly in specific ways. ill never spend money on microtransactions in a $60 game, gently caress that poo poo overwatch trying to get me to buy lootboxes  ill spend realmoney on a f2p game that i enjoy my time with though, like i bought some stuff in path of exile and warframe Tiggum posted:So it's a complicated way to almost do something worthwhile? it works well for the thing you do 99% of the time which is looking through your library for a game to play and then playing it it's also handy for stuff like "poo poo i think i got that game for free on some giveaway a few months ago, which of the 12 stores is it on" since it puts them all in once place, and still llists stuff that's in the libraries but not installed:  the last played / time played indicators aren't really accurate for games that aren't on steam tho RPATDO_LAMD fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Sep 6, 2022 |
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kntfkr posted:i worked for a toy company that got approached by a distributor about doing business in brazil and the import taxes made everything a resounding nope. i assume that's what happens? The import taxes make everything cost a lot more. Our store taxes make everything cost a lot more. The stores wanting to have a 100% profit margin (literally) make them cost a lot more. Consider the 3700 usd PS3. This is the average yearly income at different levels of wealth, converted to usd: very poor: 2k usd poor: 2.6k usd vulnerable: 3.5k usd lower middle class: 6.4k usd middle middle class: 11k usd upper middle class: 23k usd lower upper class: 40k usd Yearly. So a 3700 usd PS3 for us is not nearly the same as what it would be for an american, it is much, much worse. A GPU is an investment, quite often one that costs 2-3 months of income even if you're gunning for a low-end one. Edit: Also just for reference, that lower upper class mark represents being close to the top 1%. From then on top 0.5% is 70k usd a year, top 0.3% is 100k usd a year, 0.1% is 200k usd a year. The vast majority of people make at most 10k usd a year. Edit 2: Our import taxes are officially 60%, but in practice they're a lot more. They're taxed based on what the govt. thinks the product costs and they overshoot, also they tend to use our own prices which causes an inflation cycle. A friend of mine imported a smartwatch and it got 110% tax. That's right, he paid more than double the product's cost plus shipping. He paid more in taxes than in the actual watch. Elentor fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Sep 6, 2022 |
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Elentor posted:The import taxes make everything cost a lot more. Our store taxes make everything cost a lot more. The stores wanting to have a 100% profit margin (literally) make them cost a lot more. no one actually has money it all goes to the landlords not ps3s
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Elentor posted:The import taxes make everything cost a lot more. Our store taxes make everything cost a lot more. The stores wanting to have a 100% profit margin (literally) make them cost a lot more. Yeah but think about how much people sold their used ps2 for when they upgraded to a ps3! edit: Also that's insanely hosed. Who would buy a ps3 at that price instead of go on vacation somewhere and just buy it there? Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Sep 6, 2022 |
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site posted:It was definitely you another self own to add to the bank like that time i got peer pressured into buying dead or alive beach volleyball
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Your honor, I was pressured into buying the game known for scantily clad women with big ol bouncing boobies. I only boot it for the compelling gameplay
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Elentor posted:The import taxes make everything cost a lot more. Our store taxes make everything cost a lot more. The stores wanting to have a 100% profit margin (literally) make them cost a lot more. I'm out of the loop. Brazil? e: nvm it occured to me to click the question mark button. My partner is Brazilian and holy poo poo as I read into this back then my sanity left me. Vic fucked around with this message at 11:42 on Sep 7, 2022 |
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Bascially a system of import taxes made to stimulate local production back in 80s (iirc) made sure regular people can't easily buy poo poo like usb-c cables 40 years later. And now there's lobby to keep it this way.
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