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Rinkles posted:It’s not too common, but I do notice my 11600K bottlenecking my 3060ti occasionally, even at 1440p. Like the newer Assassin’s Creeds, Far Cries and Cyberpunk. But only in localized spots, usually the GPU is at full utilization. Are you sure it’s a CPU bottleneck? At 1440p on cyberpunk I would be expecting your 3060Ti to be your bottleneck.
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Absolutely. But this was with DLSS on (quality), and only in specific areas in the city.
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1 America 2 Using computer for gaming, not intensive 3 looking to get a graphics card for less than $500 4 new monitor I got is "Dell UltraSharp U2312HM 23" as recommended by the monitor thread. 1920 x 1080. Not looking for like, super graphics but like to turn some settings up 5. home/personal use. Hey, so I built my current computer roughly 2 years ago during peak supply shortage/crypto-rear end in a top hat helltimes and settled for a GTX 1650 Super, I just bought a new monitor so I can do a dual-monitor setup and it got me thinking it might be time to get a better one now that the rug got pulled out from those dorks, is there anything less than $500 that would be a meaningful increase, should I even bother?
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yes, a ton of stuff is available for under 500. honestly targeting 1080 i would go much lower end. see, your GPU influenced what people suggested you buy for a monitor (1080p 60) but for 500 i'm pretty sure you could buy both a 6600 and a cheap high refresh rate (144hz or more) 1080p monitor too.
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Keisari posted:Yeah, after reading a bit I think a used server is probably the best idea. How complicated are they to work with compared to a normal desktop? But yeah they seem to have more processor cores/other gear so they probably are a lot more power efficient per flop. If you want to dip your toes into this which is going to entail like 100% remote connection to these servers *and* don't care where servers are (france/norway), you could rent out a few physical dedicated servers from scaleway's dedibox service for a few months to see if you can wrap around the whole concept. Like rent out 3x $20/mo servers that are 4 core/16gb ram to see what you can do with a cluster of 12+ core/48gb+ ram or something. It'll probably quickly dwarf costs of buying physical for hardware, but not require you to host it. So not as good as a direct physical server in some ways but not being stuck to virtual w/shared core limitations either.
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CoolCab posted:yes, a ton of stuff is available for under 500. honestly targeting 1080 i would go much lower end. see, your GPU influenced what people suggested you buy for a monitor (1080p 60) but for 500 i'm pretty sure you could buy both a 6600 and a cheap high refresh rate (144hz or more) 1080p monitor too. Thanks, can you be more specific on the 6600? I have not looked at graphics card in a hot minute and wanna make sure Im looking at the right thing.
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Ash Rose posted:Thanks, can you be more specific on the 6600? I have not looked at graphics card in a hot minute and wanna make sure Im looking at the right thing. The AMD RX 6600 is the current best value in GPUs, as long as it's under $250. We don't mean the nVidia 6600GT from the year 2004. If you want tons of power, you also might be able to snag an nVidia RTX 3070 Ti for under $500, which is also among the best value GPUs. That's enough power for a much higher resolution than your monitor, though.
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Ash Rose posted:Thanks, can you be more specific on the 6600? I have not looked at graphics card in a hot minute and wanna make sure Im looking at the right thing. sure! the 6600 is a current generation AMD lower midrange card. of all available cards it's routinely reported as one of the more compelling price/performance options currently, routinely being available in the 250-300 dollar price range on promo, or it feels that way lookin in from this thread. it is designed for high refresh rate 1080p gaming - your current monitor can push 60Hz or refreshes a second, while a quicker one could push 144, 240 or even more. the 6600 can comfortably target 1080p at 144. any 6600 will do, you want one with two fans ideally. i'm sure americans ITT might be able to point you at a specific model on sale, almost all of them will be fine. the only downside to using an AMD card is you don't get access to the nvidia suite of software tools, their superior encoder and far superior ray tracing performance and DLSS. not a huge deal at 1080 tho.
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I built a pretty beast computer like 3 years ago and now I'm back. My 3 main requirements are 1. lots of threads 2. 64gb of ram 3. good value It looks like the AMD Ryzen 3900X might fit the bill. I'll be running a lot of node.js processes along with chromium browsers. My assumption is AMD is better value for the cores/thread than Intel, but I'm not sure if that is true anymore.
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secondhand or on promo it's pretty good value if you can get a deal, sure. i run one myself, good chip. how much can you get it for? at a lot of price points 12th gen might make more sense.
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CoolCab posted:secondhand or on promo it's pretty good value if you can get a deal, sure. i run one myself, good chip. how much can you get it for? at a lot of price points 12th gen might make more sense. Looks like $360-400.
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Ash Rose posted:Hey, so I built my current computer roughly 2 years ago during peak supply shortage/crypto-rear end in a top hat helltimes and settled for a GTX 1650 Super, I just bought a new monitor so I can do a dual-monitor setup and it got me thinking it might be time to get a better one now that the rug got pulled out from those dorks, is there anything less than $500 that would be a meaningful increase, should I even bother? I think you should take a longer time frame in to consideration. It sounds like you limited your monitor purchase because of your low powered GPU, and now you are limiting your GPU purchase because of your low resolution monitor. How long would it take you to save the $250 for a 1440p 144Hz monitor and would you want one of them? If the Dell is a recent purchase you might even consider returning it. It's best to purchase GPU and monitor at the same time since they largely go hand in hand.
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Ash Rose posted:4 new monitor I got is "Dell UltraSharp U2312HM 23" as recommended by the monitor thread. 1920 x 1080. Oh no. Oh noooo. I mean, it's not a terrible monitor or anything, but I regret to inform you that the monitor thread's OP is ancient and there are so many better options available now. The one you got is very dated, and you likely could've gotten a monitor with better colors and a much higher refresh rate for the same price. edit: I want to recommend returning that monitor ASAP so you can get something better with your money. How much did you pay for it? Was it new or used? Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Sep 11, 2022 |
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Reasier posted:Looks like $360-400. hrm imo I'd look at more modern chips then, a 5900x is more modern and not much more if you want to stay in AMD or something like idk the 12600, 12700 somewhere around there might be quicker for most stuff abet less efficient. you will probably need to look at total cost since older x570 or B550 motherboards can be bought relatively cheaply while 12th gen boards can be a little more expensive but for productivity workloads at that price point i suspect you might have some more options.
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when you're looking at 12th gen you need to look at the performance cores, which have hyperthreading, and the efficiency cores which do not to work out your total thread count. i have no idea if you need to do something fancy to make the cores behave in special ways with your threaded tasks? but like, you can get a secondhand 3900x here for like 250 quid and i got mine for a fair bit less than that, so it makes sense if you're buying a great price/performance for a shitton of cores but not as good if you're buying new, imo.
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:Are you sure it’s a CPU bottleneck? At 1440p on cyberpunk I would be expecting your 3060Ti to be your bottleneck. To prove a point   This is at optimized but fairly high settings.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Oh no. Oh noooo. Do you have recommendations?
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I was asked to come up with some mid-tier ($1k - $2k) gaming PC builds for work, how do these look? I was asked to stick to ATX so I sadly couldn't just replicate my own build. Cheaper end: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($193.82 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler ($52.00) Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($54.99 @ Corsair) Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card ($400.00) Case: NZXT H510 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P5 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ EVGA) Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link Archer TX3000E 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax PCIe x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($53.99 @ Amazon) Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan ($10.49 @ Amazon) Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan ($10.49 @ Amazon) Total: $1195.74 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-09-12 09:54 EDT-0400 Pricier end: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i5-12600 3.3 GHz 6-Core Processor ($229.98 @ B&H) CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 Rev.B 39.44 CFM CPU Cooler ($65.98 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg) Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon) Storage: PNY XLR8 CS3030 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Best Buy) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3070 LHR 8 GB EAGLE OC Rev 2.0 Video Card ($544.99 @ Newegg) Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($104.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Best Buy) Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link Archer TX3000E 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax PCIe x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($53.99 @ Amazon) Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan ($11.63 @ Amazon) Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan ($11.63 @ Amazon) Total: $1723.14 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-09-12 09:51 EDT-0400 I went DDR5 for the higher-end build for upgradeability, that's seemingly not a bad kit for $160 and you can drop in a 13th-gen Intel chip or carry it up to your next upgrade.
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CoolCab posted:gotta be cheaper to buy a motherboard that does wifi, do you have some specific need for that module? I couldn't find many full-sized boards with included Wi-Fi for cheaper, I feel like that's mainly an mATX and ITX thing. The cheapest I see for 600-series Intel boards is the $200 Gigabyte Z690 AORUS ELITE AX, for B550 boards it's about the same price as buying the board and Wi-Fi module separately too change my name fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Sep 12, 2022 |
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on the cheaper model i would go down to a 5600, cheaper single fan cooler, wifi motherboard but probably not necessarily even one as much or more than this one. cheaper storage. cheaper case which either comes with fans or just buy a 5 pack of P12s and stick one on your cooler, your total spend there is 110 bucks you could do better i think. maaaaaaaybe a cheaper PSU, that would be an argument at least i think 650 would probably be fine. i would say a lot of fat you could trim to get the total cost down a bit but not bad overall. here's a recent decent prebuild deal in this region that beats it for only 1k pounds. https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/intel-hellfire-12400f-rtx-3070-1tb-sn770-16gb-windows-gaming-system-ps99999-3993616#comments on the more expensive model kind of the same thing but you should be targeting a 3080 at least at that pricepoint and willing to rejigger some things to get it.
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change my name posted:I couldn't find many full-sized boards with included Wi-Fi for cheaper, I feel like that's mainly an mATX and ITX thing. The cheapest I see for 600-series Intel boards is the $200 Gigabyte Z690 AORUS ELITE AX, for B550 boards it's about the same price as buying the board and Wi-Fi module separately too you're right i'm surprised, it's much more challenging than i assumed to find a full ATX B550 for under 194 USD. i would have guessed that a much more facilitated niche tbh
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I've been seeing motherboards that have "Intel CNVi" support, which is apparently some type of wi-fi upgrade path where the motherboard specifically supports a small number of wi-fi modules: https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-gc-ci22m-a/p/14U-00GP-00001 https://www.asrock.com/support/faq.asp?id=514 What's the advantage of using one of these vs just any off-the-shelf M.2 wifi access card?
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After a solid decade of hauling a laptop I'm in the market for a gaming PC again, preferably something that's quiet when it's not running full blast. Prices are not exact since I'm not in the US, but the total is in the ballpark. I was thinking something like the following, how does this look? Is it a bad idea to go mITX here? PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($193.69 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.95 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (~$150) Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($92.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB VENTUS 2X Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg) Case: Fractal Design Define Nano S Mini ITX Desktop Case (~$80) Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon) Monitor: Asus VG259QR 24.5" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor ($239.99 @ Amazon) Total: $1266.59 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-09-12 14:31 EDT-0400
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Sinecure posted:After a solid decade of hauling a laptop I'm in the market for a gaming PC again, preferably something that's quiet when it's not running full blast. Prices are not exact since I'm not in the US, but the total is in the ballpark. I was thinking something like the following, how does this look? Is it a bad idea to go mITX here? This 750-watt 80-plus gold SFX power supply (I'm using the same one) is way cheaper and will give you more space: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0939VN9QT
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SavageBastard posted:Do you have recommendations? The Gigabyte G24F 2 is apparently a solid 180Hz 1080p IPS that's pretty affordable, and the Gigabyte M27Q-P for a good 27" high-refresh 1440p IPS. These are the two best deals I'm seeing right now. I saw some other, better recent deals for 1440p monitors in the last month, though.
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change my name posted:Pricier end: I recommend against the 12600 non-K. It's just a lightly souped-up 12400, with none of the 12600K's e-cores and less cache. You should get this DDR5 kit instead of the one you linked and use the NVMe it comes with instead of the one in your list. That'll save you about $40 while also getting a better secondary SSD. For the 1TB SSD, The SN770 will give you very similar performance for $30 less. Also, the PNY XLR8 3070 is $500 right now. I'd probably get that over the Eagle. As for the motherboard wifi situation, I dunno. I feel like I'd go with built-in wifi over using a card if the two came out to the same price. Saves you a slot, saves you from having to worry about clearance/airflow issues with the gpu, etc.
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Cross quoting here in case anyone wants to try their luck for a ~$300 3080:Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:HUGE deal on the Yeston 3080 10GB, Newegg mobile app only: https://www.newegg.com/yeston-gefor...7XiRaAzn2rkfc.A
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My PC seems to have gone pop last night. About 0130 this morning I heard a pop or a clunk or something dropping or whatever in the corner of the room where my PC is. I went over and thought I could perhaps smell a very faint "electrical burning" smell, you know what I mean. It being the early hours of the morning, I just yanked all the power and went back to bed. This morning I have plugged the two power strips back in and everything works, except my PC. I figure my PSU has died (Corsair CX450M (2015)) but my PC was switched off at the time, so I'm a bit perplexed. Can a PC that is turned off die like that, just a pop and a smell and then nothing? [edit] And would a Corsair RM550x (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold be an adequate replacement? Full build, as that would perhaps help: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For £82.50) Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (Purchased For £66.35) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory (Purchased For £0.00) Storage: Crucial MX300 525 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For £0.00) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card (Purchased For £0.00) Case: Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (Purchased For £0.00) Power Supply: Corsair CX450M (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For £48.48) Total: £197.33 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-09-13 09:09 BST+0100 Dead Goon fucked around with this message at 09:10 on Sep 13, 2022 |
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folks, i'm ashamed to say that for the second time, i failed to build a new pc.  part of it cause i chickened out cause i still didn't feel like i had much confidence in myself, but also cause i thought this might actually be a pretty good deal:https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/victus-by-hp-15l-gaming-desktop-tg02-0366qd-bundle-pc allegedly it was $1,400, but i was able to get it for $950. did i do okay?
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It's HP, so by definition that answer is no. They like the throttle and limit the performance of the components they use to avoid overheating, and then they'll overheat anyway because the cooling will be inadequate (as it appears to be here). Any since they use so many proprietary parts, you can't do anything to improve that situation yourself. But at less than a thousand bucks, so I guess it's not too bad. Though I probably would've recommended something like this instead if you live near a micro center. It has a faster GPU along with a CPU that's appropriately powerful and won't be prone to overheating, while using all standard parts that can be properly maintained or upgraded without going through the original vendor.
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Looking for advice on this build. It will be running mini-kube, lots of chromiums browsers (~50+), nodejs, elastic search, redis, docker, postgres, rabbitmq, vscode. Would it be cheaper to make this build as an AMD? This is sort of a server and my personal development box. I have a 1660 Super video card so not adding that. A few things I wanted were USB-C, a quiet build, and a simple but functional case (no LEDs). Any recommendations on a usb-c front plate? PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($369.99 @ Best Buy) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($99.95 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($217.99 @ GameStop) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($199.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ Amazon) Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($103.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($183.80 @ MemoryC) Total: $1270.69 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-09-13 09:50 EDT-0400 edit: made a few changes to storage, case, and power. Reasier fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Sep 13, 2022 |
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:It's HP, so by definition that answer is no. They like the throttle and limit the performance of the components they use to avoid overheating, and then they'll overheat anyway because the cooling will be inadequate (as it appears to be here). Any since they use so many proprietary parts, you can't do anything to improve that situation yourself. Yeah that hp case doesn’t even look like it has an intake fan. So depressing to see HP buy these quality cpu/gpu parts and then shove it all in a box and throttle it all down. spunkshui fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Sep 13, 2022 |
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2400 RAM is gonna be pretty limiting even for a 2600X, right?
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:It's HP, so by definition that answer is no. They like the throttle and limit the performance of the components they use to avoid overheating, and then they'll overheat anyway because the cooling will be inadequate (as it appears to be here). Any since they use so many proprietary parts, you can't do anything to improve that situation yourself. spunkshui posted:Yeah that hp case doesn’t even look like it has an intake fan. sheeeeeeeeeeit D: so this thing might overheat? i haven't opened it yet, so should i just return it?
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it won't overheat and fail if that's what you're asking, but it will overheat and turn itself down to prevent itself from failing. so you won't get the performance you paid for. this is called thermal throttling and it's a big part of why prebuild makers like HP aren't very well thought of.
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i wouldn't buy that personally at that rough price, it's pretty solid for the components but the case is gonna suck pretty hard i'd wager. the platonic ideal of air cooling in a modern case is as open a front as possible with fans and dust filters for intake and lots of open space for exhaust. basically a big box that allows air to flow through as unimpeded as is practical while remaining a case. so these sealed front cases are often going to hit thermal issues. if you are able to return it after opening it it's trivial to arrange a stress test to show you exactly what we mean and you could evaluate it yourself but it's a bit technical.
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