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Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

FrozenVent posted:

Yeah that’s for the head of states of Tuvalu and Kyrgistan, Joe’s flying Air Force One into a military airfield and flying Marine One to his motorcade.

He might make a good showing of it and fly into a military airfield and take The Beast from there.

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Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.
Iirc Charles is a vocal supporter of the environment and I guess trying to publicly stand behind that effort.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon

Nystral posted:

Iirc Charles is a vocal supporter of the environment and I guess trying to publicly stand behind that effort.

They also need to set a good precedent for next year's royal funeral

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

M_Gargantua posted:

They also need to set a good precedent for next year's royal funeral

Make it carbon neutral.

Wombot
Sep 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/EyeonOhio/status/1568807308595007489?t=y9QN7jkqGWukSU4XM5M0vA&s=19

The IRA really is the gift that keeps on giving.

Nuclear Tourist
Apr 7, 2005

The Irish reunification of 2024 will commence as planned.

Leave
Feb 7, 2012

Taking the term "Koopaling" to a whole new level since 2016.
Air Force One is the playing at the president flies on. I'm guessing that Marine one is the helicopter the president is taking. What do they call a boat that the president is on? Is there a Boat Force One?

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Leave posted:

Air Force One is the playing at the president flies on. I'm guessing that Marine one is the helicopter the president is taking. What do they call a boat that the president is on? Is there a Boat Force One?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Sequoia_(presidential_yacht)

Well till Carter dumped.

Leave
Feb 7, 2012

Taking the term "Koopaling" to a whole new level since 2016.
Why the gently caress is it called Marine Force one? Like what what do helicopters have to do with Marine stuff?

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Leave posted:

Why the gently caress is it called Marine Force one? Like what what do helicopters have to do with Marine stuff?

It's just Marine One not Marine Force One.

That just happens to be the name of any helo that the president is on. It's probably being flown by marines as well.

I think any ship he's on is technically Navy One while he is onboard, as well.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Leave posted:

Why the gently caress is it called Marine Force one? Like what what do helicopters have to do with Marine stuff?

The helicopters are made in Easton, PA?

Please tell me someone gets the reference.

Edit: so what was the call sign on the fighter jet that Bush flew in on for Mission Accomplished?

Edit2: navy one apparently

Leave
Feb 7, 2012

Taking the term "Koopaling" to a whole new level since 2016.
Oh, it's just a callsign. I thought there was a deeper explanation, but nope, that was just me thinking about something a little too much.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Mr. Nice! posted:

It's just Marine One not Marine Force One.

That just happens to be the name of any helo that the president is on. It's probably being flown by marines as well.

I think any ship he's on is technically Navy One while he is onboard, as well.

The ship is still the ship, but it flies his flag while embarked. http://www.seaflags.us/personal/SrOff.html#top

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless
It's just the flight callsign they use for aircraft that the president is riding on, depending on which service owns the aircraft. On an Air Force jet it's Air Force One, the presidential helicopter is flown by a USMC squadron so it's Marine One, the S-3 that took Bush out to the carrier was Navy One. Presumably if for some reason he were riding in an Army Blackhawk it would go by Army One. It's only used for aircraft, not other types of vehicles.

Leave
Feb 7, 2012

Taking the term "Koopaling" to a whole new level since 2016.

Wingnut Ninja posted:

It's only used for aircraft, not other types of vehicles.

Well, that covers the next couple of questions I had.

Thanks, everyone.

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless
I do love the idea of Joe arriving at the queen's funeral via the London Tube using the callsign "Underground One", though.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Wingnut Ninja posted:

I do love the idea of Joe arriving at the queen's funeral via the London Tube using the callsign "Underground One", though.

IRA Express.

Also time machine time. Love the old school CNN subject graphic

https://twitter.com/ostepura/status/1519419586264895494?s=46&t=L5ymbuO1Y772G5jt-QcoiA

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011
Current event: fuckin wildfire season came late in Vancouver this year

jfc it's september and everything is brown and on fire and the inside of my apartment smells like a dying forest

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Wingnut Ninja posted:

I do love the idea of Joe arriving at the queen's funeral via the London Tube using the callsign "Underground One", though.

I'm sure he'd be up for this if you asked him.

kupachek
Aug 5, 2015

This man’s brain is trembling in the balance between reason and insanity, and as he stalks on with clenched fist and sword in hand, as though he still saw those murderous Russians gunners.

Kazinsal posted:

Current event: fuckin wildfire season came late in Vancouver this year

jfc it's september and everything is brown and on fire and the inside of my apartment smells like a dying forest

Just the usual seasonal fires alone are bad enough that you should be grabbing an airpurifier. But considering your proximity to that wood recycling fire, you should grab one sooner than later and put it into service.

Remember when the Salmon Arm fire of '98 was considered a freak aberration? And they brought in the Mars and even made commemorative t-shirts (I think I still have at least one of mine). God what naivety. Hope you're breathing isn't impacted by this poo poo. The haze has been thick enough at night to really diminish how far you can cast any light when out walking in the woods.

e; Goddamn thats a lot of smoke
https://zoom.earth/#view=46.2,-104.1,4z/map=live/overlays=heat,fires,wind,radar:off

kupachek fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Sep 12, 2022

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

I'm sure he'd be up for this if you asked him.

The Secret Service probably not so much.

I can’t imagine the Secret Service would be thrilled with a President riding a foreign transportation system, even one that is a major long-term allied power, that they do not have control over.

I mean remember that time those terrorists stole an underground train and used it to detonate gas in London and all over Europe and triggered a Russian invasion.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
A sitting president has never had reason to fly with the Coast Guard, but the call sign “Coast Guard Two” was activated for Biden in 2009.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Platystemon posted:

A sitting president has never had reason to fly with the Coast Guard, but the call sign “Coast Guard Two” was activated for Biden in 2009.



I wonder if Biden has even gotten a code name of Amtrak One or Two yet?

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Marshal Prolapse posted:

I wonder if Biden has even gotten a code name of Amtrak One or Two yet?

Sadly I don't think we have any more armored trains.

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

Marshal Prolapse posted:

I wonder if Biden has even gotten a code name of Amtrak One or Two yet?

Only if the train manages to get airborne.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
There used to be a presidential railcar, the Ferdinand Magellan.

Truman is standing on its rear platform in the iconic “DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN” photograph.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Platystemon posted:

There used to be a presidential railcar, the Ferdinand Magellan.

Truman is standing on its rear platform in the iconic “DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN” photograph.

Honestly surprised Biden hadn’t toyed around with the idea of an Amtrak tour.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Secret Service won't sit still for it. The route is totally predictable and even they probably can't guard every bridge it would cross for the amount of time they'd need to keep people away from them. Plus the disruption to freight schedules over any distance would be insane.

Wombot
Sep 11, 2001


Huh, that's a cool site. Handy to have the fusion of all those data sources.

My usual go-to when I want to know why the air is savory is the CIRA SLIDER viewport for GOES-17:
https://col.st/b8oC6

It's not great today because of the clouds, but you can enable the Natural Fire overlay as well to see the heat plumes.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Midjack posted:

Secret Service won't sit still for it. The route is totally predictable and even they probably can't guard every bridge it would cross for the amount of time they'd need to keep people away from them. Plus the disruption to freight schedules over any distance would be insane.

That’s a good point. Although I was wondering does the military have its own MOS for train drivers or is it just contracted out?


Also saw this and had to post it here.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Marshal Prolapse posted:

That’s a good point. Although I was wondering does the military have its own MOS for train drivers or is it just contracted out?


Also saw this and had to post it here.

MOS 88U, but it's mostly contracted out, and apparently not an active duty MOS?

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA
Wonder if I'll see a Space Force One in my lifetime.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Cugel the Clever posted:

Wonder if I'll see a Space Force One in my lifetime.

Currently that would be an Econoline van.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

A.o.D. posted:

MOS 88U, but it's mostly contracted out, and apparently not an active duty MOS?

Interesting. I always kind of wondered about that, because I know ICBMs must move around on rails at times (for maintenance or being reloaded or used for a test). I’ve seen the videos of the road transfers, but I’ve always been wondering about rail ones ever since I saw the Godzilla 2014 movie (yes I’m a dork, but Godzilla owns).

Admittedly I’m sure anyone who wants to gently caress with a US nuke transport will die very quickly and badly.

https://youtu.be/K6rYwQIHM8Q

https://youtu.be/EyjQb3oJi80

Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Sep 12, 2022

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

Midjack posted:

Secret Service won't sit still for it. The route is totally predictable and even they probably can't guard every bridge it would cross for the amount of time they'd need to keep people away from them. Plus the disruption to freight schedules over any distance would be insane.

Oddly I'd imagine it'd be the Navy taking POTUS by rail, escorted by this thing.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

Marshal Prolapse posted:

Interesting. I always kind of wondered about that, because I know ICBMs must move around on rails at times (for maintenance or being reloaded or used for a test). I’ve seen the videos of the road transfers, but I’ve always been wondering about rail ones ever since I saw the Godzilla 2014 movie (yes I’m a dork, but Godzilla owns).

Admittedly I’m sure anyone who wants to gently caress with a US nuke transport will die very quickly and badly.

https://youtu.be/K6rYwQIHM8Q

https://youtu.be/EyjQb3oJi80

ICBM bodies are transported separately from their warheads, which go on this thing which has had some really bad mishaps! It's also chock full of top-secret security features.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Elviscat posted:

ICBM bodies are transported separately from their warheads, which go on this thing which has had some really bad mishaps! It's also chock full of top-secret security features.

One of the Sandia jokes is that they allegedly have a trailer where the foam dispenser went off accidentally and if you gently caress up badly enough they give you a plastic spoon and you have to chip it out for a couple of weeks before they let you back in the buildings.

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe

Marshal Prolapse posted:

Interesting. I always kind of wondered about that, because I know ICBMs must move around on rails at times (for maintenance or being reloaded or used for a test). I’ve seen the videos of the road transfers, but I’ve always been wondering about rail ones ever since I saw the Godzilla 2014 movie (yes I’m a dork, but Godzilla owns).

Admittedly I’m sure anyone who wants to gently caress with a US nuke transport will die very quickly and badly.

https://youtu.be/K6rYwQIHM8Q

https://youtu.be/EyjQb3oJi80

Apparently the job of nuke couriers is a pretty lovely life - you get kickass training and weapons, but you're traveling more than 75% of the month, basically you're home 1 week a month if that.

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

Bored As gently caress posted:

Apparently the job of nuke couriers is a pretty lovely life - you get kickass training and weapons, but you're traveling more than 75% of the month, basically you're home 1 week a month if that.
That seems like a real lovely system for keeping up vigilance against a very low probability threat.

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Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe
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