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MonsieurChoc posted:Imperator got really good at the end. It had the bones of an excellent game and then they just dropped it 
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Sep 12, 2022 13:43
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Paradox games have 2 states of being: you either don't play it because there are cool new features coming; or you don't play it because it's a dead game murdered by Paradox.
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Sep 12, 2022 13:46
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Come on, release one last expansion for Imperator Rome, call it the Ides of March or something. Edit: Also, give me a Paradox Ancient China game. And Sengoku 2.
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Sep 12, 2022 14:11
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Agean90 posted:It had the bones of an excellent game and then they just dropped it I'm sad that we never got to see the new subject system because it seems like it must have got fairly far through implementation before being shelved. With the exception of trade being a UI nightmare if you choose to do it manually a lot of the game's issues are solvable through modding but there's not much you can do to make the diplo side of the game exciting
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Sep 12, 2022 14:21
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https://twitter.com/PDXVictoria/status/1569325808606679040
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Sep 12, 2022 15:08
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To be honest, I like Stellaris a lot personally because as limited as the pop and ideology system there was, it was the closest thing to Victoria’s pop system in a modernized Paradox UI and almost the only modern Pdox game that allowed you to shape societies in a meaningful way. There’s a bunch of emergent narratives available just from watching other AI nations shift in ideology, and I still remember the one time I played an aggressive aristocratic slaving empire that, upon conquering a broad new swathe of alien territory, allowed them to remain as the upper class of their own planets while steadily shifting my own imperial pops into the new planet until I had enough in place to change the laws and depose the old alien leadership in favor of my own people. So yeah given all that even if it’s jank, and it probably will be, V3 is an easy preorder for me what with being pretty much exactly what I’ve been groping towards in various games.
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Sep 12, 2022 15:22
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Boooo, why were people voting for the most boring choice??
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Sep 12, 2022 15:27
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Victoria is squarely in the Weeaboo Era of unsettling niche Paradox fandom obsessions (too late for Rome/Byz, too early for the Nazis or Stalin) so this was probably a foregone conclusion as soon as they made Japan an option.
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Sep 12, 2022 15:38
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Never too late for Rome
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Sep 12, 2022 15:59
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Japan is also the classic “take an uncivilized country and reform and industrialize” choice in Vic 2 to it will be good to see how they play in Vic 3. And historically Japan did lots of… interesting things over this time period.
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Sep 12, 2022 16:07
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Cantorsdust posted:Japan is also the classic “take an uncivilized country and reform and industrialize” choice in Vic 2 to it will be good to see how they play in Vic 3. And historically Japan did lots of… interesting things over this time period. Yes I think Japan is one of the more interesting countries in this time period. They’re essentially an unciv culture and become a great power. Plus you get to feed off of the plump carcass of the Qing to fuel the entire transition.
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Sep 12, 2022 16:35
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Shameful lack of Iranophiles tbh.
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Sep 12, 2022 16:46
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I wanna play Sikh. I did it once for the achievement in EU4 and it ruled.
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Sep 12, 2022 16:46
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DrSunshine posted:Would I be stupid to preorder this? The last and only Paradox game I ever preordered was Stellaris-- against the common wisdom of longtime Paradox players to "Never preorder Paradox games". Fool me once... No. Don't be fooled again.
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Sep 12, 2022 16:48
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I preordered the grand edition. I figure if I'm really wrong and it actually is awful, I'll get my money's worth complaining about it online in between still playing it for a hundred hours. But like, Vicky 2 objectively wasn't a terribly good game and I only stopped playing that a week or two ago to build up hype for 3 so I figure I'll be fine. Japan is the only country on there that can do a lot of warring that isn't likely to end up with them being annexed, so hopefully we'll get to see more of the warfare system. The Japan AAR they did was almost entirely focused on internal politics so it'd be different enough.
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Sep 12, 2022 16:50
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Isn't Japan the 8th or 9th Rome anyway?
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Sep 12, 2022 16:58
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Anyone stating that preordering Imperator was a mistake has never played SPQR in EU4 and zoomed in to look at their troops. There's also some cool flavor mods, such as the Indo-Greek mod.
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Sep 12, 2022 17:05
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https://twitter.com/Martin_Anward/status/1569360589167935488
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Sep 12, 2022 17:28
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Stellaris would own a lot more if they axed the pop system altogether (bold to say in this thread I know) and replaced population with like flat numbers that affect planet output like Sins of a Solar Empire or Distant Worlds 2 imo. I feel like just that would solve a lot of problems I have with the game anyway (and also performance issues!!!)Armauk posted:No. Don't be fooled again. Yeah I'm not putting myself through this with any Paradox games again. The fact that there's no Gamepass release is a pretty big bummer though.
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Sep 12, 2022 17:57
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Armauk posted:No. Don't be fooled again. Yeah, I'm thinking I wait about a week after it comes out and see how people react elsewhere and on this thread, maybe watch some videos and decide then. CK3 was released in a fairly good state, so I have rather high hopes about V3, but we'll see if it's better to wait for a patch or something.
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Sep 12, 2022 18:25
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DaysBefore posted:Stellaris would own a lot more if they axed the pop system altogether (bold to say in this thread I know) and replaced population with like flat numbers that affect planet output like Sins of a Solar Empire or Distant Worlds 2 imo. I feel like just that would solve a lot of problems I have with the game anyway (and also performance issues!!!) 100%. This is why I'm pumped for Victoria because it feels like they learned everything that went horribly wrong with Stellaris' pop system and avoided those things. Also wiz dressed up fancy and I think we owe him a preorder for that.
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Sep 12, 2022 18:49
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Pretty much every mainline paradox game gets significantly better over time, so I'm not feeling a major rush to get it. The only real danger is ending up in an EU4 situation where the base game gets increasingly busted without dlc, but I think they moved away from that model.
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Sep 12, 2022 18:51
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Vagabong posted:Pretty much every mainline paradox game gets significantly better over time, so I'm not feeling a major rush to get it. The only real danger is ending up in an EU4 situation where the base game gets increasingly busted without dlc, but I think they moved away from that model. They sorta backed off to an extent, it's been a while so maybe I'm misremembering exactly what it was but I believe they added ascension perks to base Stellaris because it was getting difficult to do what they wanted to while accounting for people not having the dlc.
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Sep 12, 2022 19:03
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Honestly even all the people who were whining after playing the leak were saying the base gameplay is very solid and none of the stuff they complained about was that major or game ruining (and most of it was fixed regardless). I'm pretty optimistic, I feel like the base is very solid and the only likely game breaker would be well, the game not working. But bug fixes and messing with AI are bread and butter for Paradox anyway.
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Sep 12, 2022 19:04
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My one concern with vicky3 right now from previews is that I'm not sure the AI is capable of making it to endgame in one piece
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Sep 12, 2022 21:50
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StashAugustine posted:My one concern with vicky3 right now from previews is that I'm not sure the AI is capable of making it to endgame in one piece So it's accurate to about half of Europe in the time period then.
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Sep 12, 2022 23:45
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DrSunshine posted:Yeah, I'm thinking I wait about a week after it comes out and see how people react elsewhere and on this thread, maybe watch some videos and decide then. CK3 was released in a fairly good state, so I have rather high hopes about V3, but we'll see if it's better to wait for a patch or something. I'm taking the same route: Waiting for the release and reactions. Some places online are offering 10%-20% off the game right now. I wonder if those deals will still be around a few weeks after release.
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Sep 13, 2022 00:39
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Armauk posted:I'm taking the same route: Waiting for the release and reactions. It seems like Crusader Kings 3 was always on sale for a few bucks off somewhere in the months after release. https://isthereanydeal.com/game/crusaderkingsiii/history/ There are so many third party PC game marketplaces that games are almost always on sale somewhere.
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Sep 13, 2022 00:52
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I hope there's an easter egg button in audio options to enable vic2 war declaration & factory noises
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Sep 13, 2022 02:14
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If it's not a vanilla option, I know in my soul that the Vic 2 railroad sound will be a day 1 mod
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Sep 13, 2022 02:40
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Poil posted:Isn't Japan the 8th or 9th Rome anyway? I'm imagining a world in which physical media for PC games never died, but neither did gimmick antipiracy--and to load the game from the main menu, each disc is printed with just a flag and you are asked to insert the nth (DVD-)Rom. I'm then also imagining getting tired of keeping the manual on my desk and instead relying on some shady eastern European webforum, but having to remember that due to legal requirements in the poster's country their order differs in some positions from the North American release.
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guidoanselmi posted:I hope there's an easter egg button in audio options to enable vic2 war declaration & factory noises Considering how CK3's war dec music works I would not be surprised.
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Sep 13, 2022 03:09
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guidoanselmi posted:I hope there's an easter egg button in audio options to enable vic2 war declaration & factory noises i don't think i've had the sound enabled in a PDX game since EU2 i guess HoI2 Doomsday's menu theme went harder than it needed to
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StashAugustine posted:My one concern with vicky3 right now from previews is that I'm not sure the AI is capable of making it to endgame in one piece There do currently appear to be a lot of revolving door revolutions going on, but I'd guess tweaking the AI is one of the last things you do since if you change any of the underlying mechanics it'll mess up the balance. They at least addressed the "get a major power to win all your wars for you" thing by the look of it.
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Sep 13, 2022 10:11
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The Cheshire Cat posted:So it's accurate to about half of Europe in the time period then. Yeah this time period was insanely volatile.
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Sep 13, 2022 12:13
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They didn't transfer the cool little ingame newspaper updates for V3, did they?
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Sep 13, 2022 12:24
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No, you won't see that "99+" icon on every Victoria 3 screenshot like you did with Victoria 2.
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Sep 13, 2022 12:33
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This stream is much better than the one last week.
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ilitarist posted:No, you won't see that "99+" icon on every Victoria 3 screenshot like you did with Victoria 2. Shrodinger's Lincoln will never again know the joy of seeing a good play
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