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Robot Style
Jul 5, 2009

Noam Chomsky posted:

Well, let's be real - they're just going to remake the movies once Lucas dies. So, you'll probably just get Hayden as Vader.

I think they know better than to outright remake the movies, but they're definitely doing a lot that seems designed to "fix" perceived flaws in them.

It's probably not something they're doing intentionally, but every creator is coming to the series thinking "I really love Star Wars, but..." and then adding something that addresses their own personal adolescent nitpick. Usually it's related to characters not being violent enough, so they add stuff like Vader becoming a slasher villain for a scene, Luke carving up a bunch of robots, Obi-Wan and Vader throwing a million rocks at each other, or Boba Fett blowing up a squad of stormtroopers.

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thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Robot Style posted:

I think they know better than to outright remake the movies, but they're definitely doing a lot that seems designed to "fix" perceived flaws in them.

It's probably not something they're doing intentionally, but every creator is coming to the series thinking "I really love Star Wars, but..." and then adding something that addresses their own personal adolescent nitpick. Usually it's related to characters not being violent enough, so they add stuff like Vader becoming a slasher villain for a scene, Luke carving up a bunch of robots, Obi-Wan and Vader throwing a million rocks at each other, or Boba Fett blowing up a squad of stormtroopers.

As opposed to Lucas straight up changing the movies themselves to “fix” them?

Robot Style
Jul 5, 2009

That's probably exactly why they're doing it this way - Lucas' revisions are a really mixed bag, and even his Maclunkey parting gift made waves in the fandom. So instead, they're taking the safe route of technically preserving the original movies, but adding addendums that replace the originals in spirit. For example, I don't think Favreau and Rodriguez would ever agree to be involved with shooting a new scene for Return of the Jedi where Boba Fett crawls out of the Sarlacc (even though Lucas has said he would have included one if he knew how popular the character was), but it's totally fine to put the same scene in a separate show that's happening at the same time, but is just off-camera.

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

Corpse runner

Robot Style posted:

That's probably exactly why they're doing it this way - Lucas' revisions are a really mixed bag, and even his Maclunkey parting gift made waves in the fandom. So instead, they're taking the safe route of technically preserving the original movies, but adding addendums that replace the originals in spirit. For example, I don't think Favreau and Rodriguez would ever agree to be involved with shooting a new scene for Return of the Jedi where Boba Fett crawls out of the Sarlacc (even though Lucas has said he would have included one if he knew how popular the character was), but it's totally fine to put the same scene in a separate show that's happening at the same time, but is just off-camera.

The way they split the difference between beaked sarlacc and beakless sarlacc was clever, in my opinion.

Glottis
May 29, 2002

No. It's necessary.
Yam Slacker
I think it's only a matter of time before they start fully remaking them. It's Disney. At some point in time the potential money they'd make will outweigh any possible fan backlash for tampering with their beloved classics or whatever.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


Disney has done a bunch of adaptations of animated movies into live action or photorealistic CGI, but have they remade a lot of live-action movies?

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



They will never remake any of these movies. That’s some pipe dream poo poo.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Vintersorg posted:

They will never remake any of these movies. That’s some pipe dream poo poo.

Pipe nightmare, more like. I see anemic poo poo like their live action Beauty and the Beast and think "Yep, I can see them doing that to Star Wars."

Robot Style
Jul 5, 2009

Sir Kodiak posted:

Disney has done a bunch of adaptations of animated movies into live action or photorealistic CGI, but have they remade a lot of live-action movies?

They've done a few:

  • The Absent Minded Professor / Flubber
  • Escape to Witch Mountain / Race to Witch Mountain
  • The Shaggy Dog
  • The Parent Trap

Though obviously the remakes of their animated movies are a lot more successful.

BiggestBatman
Aug 23, 2018
Hot take the Pete's Dragon remake improves on the original though its still barely good

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


Robot Style posted:

They've done a few:

Thanks for the list. Those sorts of nostalgia remakes seem like the sort of thing that Disney is already accomplishing with stuff like bringing back the old cast, computer homunculus Luke Skywalker, Obi-Win recontextualizing the OT, etc. Your suggestion that they can just stealth remake the movies by adjusting whatever part of the loose continuity needs changing in other projects without formally announcing a new Episode IV would seem to fit with that.

Maybe if Star Wars actually dies at some point you could see remakes after a generation, but I'm not buying the whole once-George-Lucas-croaks-it's-on perspective.

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013
TFA is a stealth remake of anh.

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
Starring a religiously devoted OT fan, and a child inductee into the Star Wars cult who hates it and wants to leave.

Robot Style
Jul 5, 2009

Darth TNT posted:

TFA is a stealth remake of anh.

So is The Phantom Menace, though cleverly it's actually an adaptation of Lucas' rough draft rather than the finished movie - instead of just telling the story of what happened before A New Hope, he's telling the story of what happened before he wrote A New Hope.


The rough draft opens with a Sith tracking a Jedi to his home on a desert planet, then attacking the Jedi's son to draw out the Jedi himself.


Meanwhile, the Emperor holds an audience at the Imperial capitol, announcing that the Empire is going to proceed with an invasion of the planet Aquilae due to their refusal to sign a treaty of alliance with the Empire.


Seeking aid, Aquilae asks two Jedi to escort the fourteen year old princess and her younger brothers off the planet to request aid from their allies in other star systems. In order to avoid detection, the princess is forced to disguise herself.


Among Aquilae's few remaining allies are the chrome companies, who pledge their ships if the princess can reach them safely.


In order to escape the planet, the group meets up with a large amphibious alien who can provide transport.


After securing a ship, the group is attacked by the Empire and their ship is damaged, forcing them to land on an unfamiliar planet.


The group encounters a race of primitive aliens dwelling in the forest, and manage to form an alliance with them against the Empire.


Stealing fighters from the Empire, the untested alien pilots attack the Empire's battle station, eventually destroying it.


As the battle on the space station rages, the younger Jedi does battle with a Sith Lord.


With the Empire's battle station destroyed, a celebration is held to coronate the young queen and declare an alliance between her people and the brave aliens who fought by her side.

Ingmar terdman
Jul 24, 2006

TPM is miles above TFA as far as remakes of Star Wars go

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

BiggestBatman posted:

Hot take the Pete's Dragon remake improves on the original though its still barely good

That's not a really high bar to pass, though.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I feel like there's probably some good articles somewhere on the Lord of the Rings movies compared to Star Wars.

Gnome de plume
Sep 5, 2006

Hell.
Fucking.
Yes.
https://twitter.com/AlecSmithDraws/status/1569460638363131904?t=o4KTlXZw2W632mCV7cDISQ&s=19

haven't watched the OT recently but I'm pretty sure they got the gist of it here

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

Gnome de plume posted:

https://twitter.com/AlecSmithDraws/status/1569460638363131904?t=o4KTlXZw2W632mCV7cDISQ&s=19

haven't watched the OT recently but I'm pretty sure they got the gist of it here

Wonderful, I can save myself 19 hours of film and just watch this when I need to refresh my memory

Now do Lord of the Rings

Robot Style
Jul 5, 2009

Around the time Episode 3 was in production, there were rumors of a "Yoda Farting" scene in the movie, where he acted like a weird little gremlin to hide out from clones on Kashyyyk, including farting and/or making GBS threads himself to sell the bit.

Eventually there was some concept art released showing Yoda covering himself in mud to hide out from the clones, and everyone assumed that the rumor was just an exaggerated version of a real scene.

But then a couple of years ago, I heard someone who had worked on the movie mention how glad they were that the Yoda Farting scene was cut.

It wasn't an exaggeration. It was real. Yoda shidded and farded and camed his pants in a Star Wars movie, and George Lucas' greatest crime was not Maclunkeying it back in there as a parting shot when he sold the company.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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He's not dead yet, Robot Style. Lucas will find some way to get the "Yoda Poops" scene to the true fans.

Shanty
Nov 7, 2005

I Love Dogs
I can just see his wretched little muppet face scrunching up with the effort.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
I hope he does his trademark little giggle after he farts

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
You barbarians have me thinking about taking the scene where Yoda first meets Luke and dubbing in a bunch of really wet swamp rear end farts. You absolute heathens. You horrible monsters.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
In the far future Yoda and Shrek will be combined into a single syncretic figure.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2
Yoda is just what Shrek becomes when he gets old

Yaddle is what Fiona becomes when she gets old

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

F.D. Signifier posted:

Yoda is just what Shrek becomes when he gets old

Yaddle is what Fiona becomes when she gets old



lmao

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Ogre it is not, until ogre, it is.

porfiria
Dec 10, 2008

by Modern Video Games
Revenge of the Shits

Ingmar terdman
Jul 24, 2006

As far as PT-OT loop closing goes, having yoda realize that being a swamp goof is a good cover is p unnecessary. But hell why not

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

Shanty posted:

I can just see his wretched little muppet face scrunching up with the effort.

And now you can hear it too

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

porfiria posted:

Revenge of the Shits

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
I've never even considered people in Star Wars going to the bathroom until this page, but now I'm almost certain there's a wookiepedia article about it

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

Bring lucas back to direct the cinema adaptation of poe farted at a wedding

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

porfiria posted:

Revenge of the Shits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxSMnGnlZQE

Martman
Nov 20, 2006

Greedo sharted first

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

F.D. Signifier posted:

Yoda is just what Shrek becomes when he gets old

Yaddle is what Fiona becomes when she gets old



that tracks bizarrely well

-green and ugly in a likeable way
-live alone in a swamp
-love messing with people
-more intellectual and emotional depth than first appearances suggest

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

All ogre it is

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"
#ReleaseTheShidderCut

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CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋


lmfao

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