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Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



It really depends. The Biden administration basically told the rail lines: "You will give them these raises and backdate them to this point." It was good enough for 8/12 unions.

The last 4 unions represent about half of the workers though and they're saying no deal unless quality of life improvements are also made and their workers can get some time off without being on call 7 days a week.

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MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

And that’s not exactly a big ask.

dxt
Mar 27, 2004
METAL DISCHARGE
https://mobile.twitter.com/StarTribune/status/1569347351185166337

~15k nurses in MN on strike for 3 days.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



https://twitter.com/BostonUrbEx/status/1569301260448194560

The rail lines are already preparing. Some information on the bullshit staffing policies the workers are dealing with:
https://prospect.org/labor/rail-workers-punished-for-taking-days-off-union-says/

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Let's. loving. Gooooooooo!!

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


god i hope it happens.

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

In Training posted:

Let's. loving. Gooooooooo!!

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


hell yeah supply chain issues pt 2, labor boogaloo (brb stocking up on toilet paper)

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Do I need to stock up if I live in a port city

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The Dutch railway strikes of the past weeks worked, and the national railway company agreed to a new contract :toot:
https://twitter.com/MattPovey2/status/1569298508427010054
This will hopefully open the floodgates for more industrial action across the country

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/RaiseUptheSouth/status/1570073410717319169

poopinmymouth
Mar 2, 2005

PROUD 2 B AMERICAN (these colors don't run)
Curious if anyone here has taken the Jane macalevy class on organizing. I'm about to start and I'm looking forward, she seems like a total badass.

Jinnigan
Feb 12, 2007

We shall pay him a visit. There will be a picnic. Tea shall be served.
scuttlebutt from hereabouts (philly unions) is that she's a much better labor speaker+educator than she is an on the ground labor organizer. that's fine! the class and books and insights are very strong

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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does anyone in labor organization ever look at or push for the repeal of taft-hartley? i never hear anything about it.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Stringent posted:

does anyone in labor organization ever look at or push for the repeal of taft-hartley? i never hear anything about it.

Labor unions have 0 political strength since they purged the socialist membership and permanently hitched their wagon to the Dems in the 30s, there's nothing to push or fight for.

there is an enormous political vacuum that could be filled by healthier orgs pushing to repeal taft-hartley, reinstitute card check, repeal a bunch of state laws that prevent public sector strikes etc.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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In Training posted:

Labor unions have 0 political strength since they purged the socialist membership and permanently hitched their wagon to the Dems in the 30s, there's nothing to push or fight for.

there is an enormous political vacuum that could be filled by healthier orgs pushing to repeal taft-hartley, reinstitute card check, repeal a bunch of state laws that prevent public sector strikes etc.

so why isn't it getting filled? repealing taft-hartley seems like it should be a slam dunk?

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Stringent posted:

so why isn't it getting filled? repealing taft-hartley seems like it should be a slam dunk?

Union leadership went to the same ivy leagues as the dem consultant class, their class alignment is much closer to bourgeoisie than their own membership. they have no political ambitions period, because it keeps the checks flowing.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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In Training posted:

Union leadership went to the same ivy leagues as the dem consultant class, their class alignment is much closer to bourgeoisie than their own membership. they have no political ambitions period, because it keeps the checks flowing.

that's not an answer, taft-hartley isn't even spoken of anywhere.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Fwiw it does seem to be changing. There's more rank and file momentum across various industries trying to internally organize to oust their loser leaders. But you cant just like, flip a switch and decide to be a militant body. It takes overcoming decades of internal institutional rot. The work can be helped along by historical circumstances but it's still a long process

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Stringent posted:

that's not an answer, taft-hartley isn't even spoken of anywhere.

That is an answer though? The complete absence of taft-hartley shows their extremely limited political development. The most you get is GOTV campaigns for Dems, fundraising calls+dinners and a open letter to president Biden to please sign the PRO act. No threat, no understanding that liberalism is still an enemy of working class struggle, the language and strategy is completely devoid of engaging membership with actual political struggle.

poopinmymouth
Mar 2, 2005

PROUD 2 B AMERICAN (these colors don't run)

In Training posted:

Fwiw it does seem to be changing. There's more rank and file momentum across various industries trying to internally organize to oust their loser leaders. But you cant just like, flip a switch and decide to be a militant body. It takes overcoming decades of internal institutional rot. The work can be helped along by historical circumstances but it's still a long process

Yup, we had our first elections ever in 2018, and it's taken til now to get aggressive leaders settled, the road blocks cleared, internal conservatives removed, and start actually really getting stuff done this year. And that's in Iceland where we never had a full on McCarthy purge.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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In Training posted:

That is an answer though? The complete absence of taft-hartley shows their extremely limited political development. The most you get is GOTV campaigns for Dems, fundraising calls+dinners and a open letter to president Biden to please sign the PRO act. No threat, no understanding that liberalism is still an enemy of working class struggle, the language and strategy is completely devoid of engaging membership with actual political struggle.

i think you're missing my point. taft-hartley was passed so long ago i think people have forgotten about it.

my question is why isn't this at the forefront of organizers' platforms?

poopinmymouth
Mar 2, 2005

PROUD 2 B AMERICAN (these colors don't run)

Stringent posted:

my question is why isn't this at the forefront of organizers' platforms?

Because the leaders are liberals. That's the entire answer, if you don't understand you're probably also a liberal.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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poopinmymouth posted:

Because the leaders are liberals. That's the entire answer, if you don't understand you're probably also a liberal.

ok then there's no point in organizing. thanks for the solution.

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Stringent posted:

ok then there's no point in organizing. thanks for the solution.

It's important to find the source of the problem. That doesn't mean it's unsolvable.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Stringent posted:

ok then there's no point in organizing. thanks for the solution.

There is definitely an urgent need for organizing, stronger leadership doesn't emerge from heaven, bestowed to a unit that suddenly becomes Militant. they emerge from internal struggles

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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that's all of the search results.

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

The unions need to build a political power base before they start going after federal legislation. To do that, they need real victories on the ground so they can gain popular support and start either running candidates or leveraging political parties.

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
they don’t phrase it as “repeal Taft Hartley,” they phrase it as “pass the PRO act,” which undoes some (not all) of the bad things from TH and does a lot of new good things.

edit: Warren also has a bill targeting right to work laws.

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005

In Training posted:

Labor unions have 0 political strength since they purged the socialist membership and permanently hitched their wagon to the Dems in the 30s, there's nothing to push or fight for.

there is an enormous political vacuum that could be filled by healthier orgs pushing to repeal taft-hartley, reinstitute card check, repeal a bunch of state laws that prevent public sector strikes etc.

I don’t think “zero political strength” is accurate, they’re just using their political strength for the wrong things, like pushing for the CHIPS act. we just need to steer these huge ships in a better direction. not easy!

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
big news in rail, with Biden “averting” the strike. problem is, those pesky workers get to actually vote on whether or not they want the deal!!

https://twitter.com/JonahFurman/status/1570424964175519745

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
https://twitter.com/who_shot_jgr/status/1570458013726539776

id bet money it still gets ratified though

Yeast Confection
Oct 7, 2005

poopinmymouth posted:

Curious if anyone here has taken the Jane macalevy class on organizing. I'm about to start and I'm looking forward, she seems like a total badass.

If you're talking about the Organizing for Power sessions, they were excellent. Jane doesn't run the whole thing, but you can tell they're succession planning for her from the other facilitators.

poopinmymouth
Mar 2, 2005

PROUD 2 B AMERICAN (these colors don't run)

In Training posted:

There is definitely an urgent need for organizing, stronger leadership doesn't emerge from heaven, bestowed to a unit that suddenly becomes Militant. they emerge from internal struggles

Exactly. I witnessed this happen and participated in the project.

Guess who we had to struggle with to get more militant? The liberal former leadership.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Can someone please give me 30 days off because thr Finnpol IK thinks nurses should not have the right to unionize and I want to post at them which is not worth it. TIA.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Tom Smykowski
Jan 27, 2005

What the hell is wrong with you people?
gently caress that ik

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
iirc home depot is up there with walmart for most anti-union retailer

https://twitter.com/MorePerfectUS/status/1572274199246274561

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



They got a tough road ahead of them but it's a sign of the times that they even got this far.

I wish them all the luck, and may their harvest of corporate tears be bountiful.

Tom Smykowski
Jan 27, 2005

What the hell is wrong with you people?
Was it home Depot or Menards that made people sign agreements to not join unions upon hire lol

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ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/laurenkgurley/status/1574512736221945883

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