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credburn posted:Stephen King is an author I've read many books of, and even though I clearly am a fan of his work, there's a constant struggle I have with the way he presents his world building -- he never explains the why of any of it. He'll begin a book with a character revealing that he discovered a time tunnel to a very specific time in his pantry, but he'll never explain why there is a time tunnel there, or really even question it at all. Why is this Buick a door to another world? Why does this kid have weird powers? Why did there need to be a child sewer orgy? Because of cocaine
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Henchman of Santa posted:Because of cocaine THE POWER OF COCAINE COMPELS THEE!!!
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The trouble is the "why" is always lame as gently caress and disappointing. I'd rather have the mystery, or the unexpected, or the external event. My mind likes being like "what the gently caress? How do we deal with this?" I guess
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Sep 17, 2022 15:04
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Is it important that you know the why? Unless it’s going to move the story forward, there’s isn’t. The creator is trusting you to figure out that piece for yourself. It drove me nuts when the anime movie Redline came out and I saw people going “why do they hold the race on a planet that doesn’t want it and will kill the racers? Just hold it somewhere else.” Well, the movie never says but I can give a couple of reasons why it logically happened. The best answer though is that it’s cool and exciting as heck and that’s what Redline is all about. Redline explains absolutely nothing and it’s better for it because it uses all of its run time on the story it wants to tell and not the story a pedant has to see.
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Sep 17, 2022 15:05
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On that same note of overexplaining: I'll never watch any of the 2001 sequels. I hate the fact that they exist, even though I think Clarke wrote them (or some of them). The original 2001 is one of my favorite movies in part because it's so enigmatic; you have to figure out the symbolism for yourself. 2010 and all the subsequent other films explains every boring detail of the mission, why HAL did what he did, and what actually happened with Dave. It's like telling a joke and then explaining why it's funny.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:On that same note of overexplaining: I'll never watch any of the 2001 sequels. I hate the fact that they exist, even though I think Clarke wrote them (or some of them). The original 2001 is one of my favorite movies in part because it's so enigmatic; you have to figure out the symbolism for yourself. 2010 and all the subsequent other films explains every boring detail of the mission, why HAL did what he did, and what actually happened with Dave. It's like telling a joke and then explaining why it's funny. Some of us actually like diving into the whys and hows and world settings, so I would actually call this one of the best cases. One book that uses the mystery to write an excellent story, because that does make for a better story, and then a book that dives into why it happened for those of us who have that kind of curiosity. Its not like you have to read the over explaining sequels.
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Sep 17, 2022 16:12
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The Black Stones posted:not the story a pendant has to see. Yeah they always get hung up on something
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RFC2324 posted:Some of us actually like diving into the whys and hows and world settings, so I would actually call this one of the best cases. One book that uses the mystery to write an excellent story, because that does make for a better story, and then a book that dives into why it happened for those of us who have that kind of curiosity. It's perfectly fine as long as I can explore my own interpretation of what happened in the original as opposed to having to accept Clarke's explanations in the later novels/movies.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:It's perfectly fine as long as I can explore my own interpretation of what happened in the original as opposed to having to accept Clarke's explanations in the later novels/movies. Headcanon is a thing for a reason. Let us nerds have our argument fodder tho. How else would we end up getting space cenobites or sex crickets in star wars to laugh at?
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Sep 17, 2022 16:45
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:On that same note of overexplaining: I'll never watch any of the 2001 sequels. I hate the fact that they exist, even though I think Clarke wrote them (or some of them). The original 2001 is one of my favorite movies in part because it's so enigmatic; you have to figure out the symbolism for yourself. 2010 and all the subsequent other films explains every boring detail of the mission, why HAL did what he did, and what actually happened with Dave. It's like telling a joke and then explaining why it's funny. The 2001 sequel books are all deliberately mutually contradictory, specifically to avoid giving firm answers
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Sep 17, 2022 19:27
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My peeve is that UK's Disney Plus had almost no complete shows on it that were new. We still only have the first season of Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure (hang on holy poo poo where did those other two seasons come from... we now have it all since I last checked. Awesome.) and we were way behind on Owl House and Amphibia although it seems that they are finally almost caught up after years of nothing, as all of Owl house is now up and Amphibia is only missing the last few episodes.
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Sep 18, 2022 05:30
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My pet peeve is that Disney+ randomly has a some kids films (eg. Moana and Lady and the Tramp) NOT available on the kids profiles, for no discernible reason whatsoever.
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Sep 18, 2022 08:10
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Modern movies, and some TV shows, have this weird compulsion with overexplaining poo poo. A great example is Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, where they inserted a really dumb and pointless backstory for Wonka about his dad being a dentist or some bullshit. A lot of NuTrek (not so much SNW, from what I can tell) has also tended to do this by handwaving everything vaguely mysterious in Trek history as "Section 31 did it". Related to this, amateur Youtube film critics who get mad about anything that isn't explicitly spelled out for them in minute detail and scream about "plot holes". F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:On that same note of overexplaining: I'll never watch any of the 2001 sequels. I hate the fact that they exist, even though I think Clarke wrote them (or some of them). The original 2001 is one of my favorite movies in part because it's so enigmatic; you have to figure out the symbolism for yourself. 2010 and all the subsequent other films explains every boring detail of the mission, why HAL did what he did, and what actually happened with Dave. It's like telling a joke and then explaining why it's funny. The best feeling a movie can leave me with is "what the gently caress did I just watch" plus the feeling that I'm missing something, and if I see it again I might get it on the second go around.
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Sep 18, 2022 09:51
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The Black Stones posted:Is it important that you know the why? Unless it’s going to move the story forward, there’s isn’t. The creator is trusting you to figure out that piece for yourself. It drove me nuts when the anime movie Redline came out and I saw people going “why do they hold the race on a planet that doesn’t want it and will kill the racers? Just hold it somewhere else.” Well, the movie never says but I can give a couple of reasons why it logically happened. The best answer though is that it’s cool and exciting as heck and that’s what Redline is all about. Redline explains absolutely nothing and it’s better for it because it uses all of its run time on the story it wants to tell and not the story a pedant has to see. For me the frustration comes mostly from me setting up expectations that will never be met. If I'm reading a story, and a guy says "Hey there's a time portal in my pantry that sends you back to the 60s," my brain wants to know why the portal is there, who put it there, what science or magic is behind it, and what the goal of its placement is. For many authors, that would be the Mystery, but Stephen King is way more interested in telling an adventure. Once I calibrate my expectations to a Stephen King book, it's fine, but I think it's just a quality of King and the stories he tells that one must accept in order to to enjoy it properly. King focuses on the How or What almost exclusively, only occasionally having his characters ask "Why?" It does lead to a lot of deus ex machinas and random manifestations that can get rid of a plot issue or add one as needed. Stephen King will create a world but establish zero consistent rules to it, which allows him to manipulate the plot in any way he wants, whenever he needs to. It feels like an author's god mode, and is rather self-indulgent and annoying. I mean, King did cram himself in his own books as a god of the worlds he creates, so it's not like all this is obscured, really.
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That sort of thing never bothers me in magical realism stories. Why did he turn into a tree? Doesn’t matter but that’s what happened
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It wouldn't make sense otherwise
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Bargearse posted:Related to this, amateur Youtube film critics who get mad about anything that isn't explicitly spelled out for them in minute detail and scream about "plot holes". That's exactly how I felt after watching Eyes Wide Shut for the first time recently. I'm still not completely sure what point(s) Kubrick was trying to make with that film, and that's why I like it so much.
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Sep 18, 2022 19:47
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"Have sex with your wife, dummy."
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christmas boots posted:That sort of thing never bothers me in magical realism stories. Why did he turn into a tree? Doesn’t matter but that’s what happened It also ruins the story. The story isn’t how he turned into the tree, it’s what he does as a tree. Nerds need for explaining is why we have things overly explaining. Studio idiots watchin nerdy rear end YouTube videos
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"Why" is for chumps.
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Sep 18, 2022 21:53
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The Perfect Element posted:My pet peeve is that Disney+ randomly has a some kids films (eg. Moana and Lady and the Tramp) NOT available on the kids profiles, for no discernible reason whatsoever. No idea about Moana but it's usually an issue with older stuff and the reason is "because there's at least one scene that is shockingly racist" (the Siamese cat stuff in Lady and the Tramp etc)
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Trying to eat while I have a stuffy nose sucks. I can't taste jack poo poo and I keep getting out of breath.
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The Perfect Element posted:My pet peeve is that Disney+ randomly has a some kids films (eg. Moana and Lady and the Tramp) NOT available on the kids profiles, for no discernible reason whatsoever. Disney+ doesn't have the Aladdin cartoon from the Disney Afternoon, for some reason. All the other Disney Afternoon ones are there, even the "Proto Disney Afternoon" cartoons like Gummi Bears and Duck Tales.
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Brawnfire posted:Trying to eat while I have a stuffy nose sucks. I can't taste jack poo poo and I keep getting out of breath. And take a covid test
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My cereal is as spicy as I like it
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Bagpipes Specifically when they're used without giving breathing space to the rest of the music, since that's a goddamned feature of the instrument, because I do love me some bagpipes but drat, does it have to be a solo that goes the whole length of the piece, and also specifically the time years ago I stayed on the Royal Mile in Edinburgh for a week and the dueling bagpipes kicked off at 6 AM every day but I brought that on myself. Yes, that's a bagpipes sentence.
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Hm. Nope, gonna have to phrase it in a way I can understand Bagpipes specifically whan they're usit without givin breathin space tae the rest o the music, syne thon's a goddamnit feature o the instrument, because A dae love me some bagpipes but drat, daes it have tae be a solo thon goes the whole length o the piece, an also specifically the time years ago A stayit on the royal mile i edinburch for a week an the duelin bagpipes kickit aff at 6 am ivery day but A broucht thon on myself. ay, thon's a bagpipes sentence.
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When I''m trying to shop men's pants on line and they have loving Hank Hill assed models. This tells me nothing about how they fit! It's even more annoying when it's for loose or relaxed fits - you know, pants for people with actual butts and thighs.
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Radish burps!
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I really wish Google would ban 'pls review us' prompts from apps, but unfortunately that seems wildly unlikely. On top of them just being incredibly annoying, some apps (like one of my bank's apps) will just repeatedly spawn it with a bit of cooldown. I'm incredibly petty, so now I just rate poo poo 1 star if they do it, even though that sometimes means having to do so manually. (Since some prompts only have the option 'rate(this app 5 stars)', and 'close'.)
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SubNat posted:I really wish Google would ban 'pls review us' prompts from apps, but unfortunately that seems wildly unlikely. I agree, except that the budget app i use that's just barely translated to english asks whether you will 'cooperate to review' and i think that's just too charming
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SubNat posted:I really wish Google would ban 'pls review us' prompts from apps, but unfortunately that seems wildly unlikely.
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I don't know if this counts as a peeve at this point because I'm furious, but. I'm stuck in traffic in the middle of Colorado on a long 1 lane highway. I was initially here because there was a car crash, but that's been cleared for half an hour. Now I'm here because *two* different idiots got stuck on the same traffic and decided to try and bypass it in the oncoming lane and very predictably caused more accidents. gently caress
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Riatsala posted:I don't know if this counts as a peeve at this point because I'm furious, but. I'm stuck in traffic in the middle of Colorado on a long 1 lane highway. I was initially here because there was a car crash, but that's been cleared for half an hour. Now I'm here because *two* different idiots got stuck on the same traffic and decided to try and bypass it in the oncoming lane and very predictably caused more accidents. gently caress Is this 1-25 coming from Colorado Springs lmao Bc if so oh boy do I know this. I used to live in monument and had to work in castle rock so every day was just hoping that no one decided to crash
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Highway 24 between antero junction and hartsel, but I know that stretch of 25 lol Not that any part of 25 is good
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Riatsala posted:I don't know if this counts as a peeve at this point because I'm furious, but. I'm stuck in traffic in the middle of Colorado on a long 1 lane highway. I was initially here because there was a car crash, but that's been cleared for half an hour. Now I'm here because *two* different idiots got stuck on the same traffic and decided to try and bypass it in the oncoming lane and very predictably caused more accidents. gently caress how the gently caress do they think that's going to even work  hmm there are infinity cars stopped in the road ahead of me, I will swerve into oncoming traffic and drive alongside these bumper to bumper cars until ??????
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I have a Capital One credit card and almost every time I open the app I get a prompt to get $200 if I refer a friend and they sign up for a card. I cannot express how much I do not go around suggesting credit cards to people, please stop asking/offering it to me.
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Joey Freshwater posted:I have a Capital One credit card and almost every time I open the app I get a prompt to get $200 if I refer a friend and they sign up for a card. Then once I'm logged in, there's a little red "notification" icon in the corner telling me to link a credit card. No way to clear that notification, it's there forever (because I don't want to link a credit card).
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the holy poopacy posted:how the gently caress do they think that's going to even work I feel like a boomer when I say this but people just aren't as patient while they're driving anymore. I don't remember this sort of idiocy on this scale pre-Covid. But yeah, it's not even like "I can see the end and I'm more important than everyone else, ergo I'm going to skip this jam on the shoulder". It was a *twelve mile* line of cars, only a mile of which was visible at a time at most, zero shoulder, no possible detours, no exit from the road whatsoever! Just a straight shot right into oncoming traffic and a line of stopped cars that wouldn't let you merge back in even if they could.
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