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day-gas
Dec 16, 2020

habeasdorkus posted:

Oh poo poo, Sonorie goddamned planned for everything Alderode is doing. They're going to extend the Dammakhert into Cresce, and that's going to give her the opportunity to seize their new hub and root-kit Roger Foi-Helleck into the whole system!

This feels weirdly bloodthirsty on her part but also it would pretty definitively end the war forever.

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Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
there's always been that interesting dichotomy between sonorie and alderode, and sonorie's actions and her attitude. alderode's grudge against cresce is mostly to stoke national fervor and secure the ruling class's power, but sonorie genuinely wants alderode gone. she also deliberately keeps herself ignorant about the fine details of her plan because she can't stomach the ramifications, which allows bell and his conspirators to run rings around her while claiming they're actually the Hard Men who Get Things Done

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead
The mayor's response to being shoveled in by Paul is pretty reasonable, imo.

Yeah, the plan is to use the Grenzlan hub to do... whatever it is the Blacktongues have cobbled together after studying ROGER FOI-HELLICK

shirts and skins
Jun 25, 2007

Good morning!
I think you all were right about the queen's plan. Great call.

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
Now we're gonna watch her get stymied at the last minute by a combination of Bell's coup and the silver, the former of whom are using the excuse that she's not a Hard Man who can do Hard Things for their power grab. It's gonna suuuuck, because the Aldish ruling castes deserve at least as much comeuppance as anyone else we've seen so far.

e: Or she somehow still pulls it off, since we're at the end of this act and the next one is set in Alderode, and it'd certainly make traveling about Alderode easier if the Dammakhert was jacked up/destroyed.

habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Sep 19, 2022

day-gas
Dec 16, 2020

habeasdorkus posted:

Now we're gonna watch her get stymied at the last minute by a combination of Bell's coup and the silver, the former of whom are using the excuse that she's not a Hard Man who can do Hard Things for their power grab. It's gonna suuuuck, because the Aldish ruling castes deserve at least as much comeuppance as anyone else we've seen so far.

e: Or she somehow still pulls it off, since we're at the end of this act and the next one is set in Alderode, and it'd certainly make traveling about Alderode easier if the Dammakhert was jacked up/destroyed.

Doesn't she know about the silver? It's hard to track how much she properly knows vs what she has assumed; her assumptions have been pretty spot on to her credit.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

IIRC she was offered the silver, but refused.

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
I think she knows about the silver, knows what happened in Ethelmik, but doesn't know precisely what the Silver is doing or where it is right at this moment.

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


Ashley's consistently made her look sympathetic without really delving into what her goals are. I think she's going to hijack the silver and become the big bad

Vagabong
Mar 2, 2019
I mean successfully loving with the dammakert could provide a lot of amoral methods to destroy Alderode in a variety of cruel and unusual ways.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
if she injected the etalarche into the entire distribution network then the whole country goes 28 Days Later except for the soud

Twenty Four
Dec 21, 2008


Flavahbeast posted:

Ashley's consistently made her look sympathetic without really delving into what her goals are. I think she's going to hijack the silver and become the big bad

I think, at least specifically in the Crescian camp, General Bell is solidly set up as the "big bad" while the queen has been going down the road of "making hard choices in difficult times" (for better or worse) type of martyr.

Horace Kinch
Aug 15, 2007

I forget how the Dammakhert specifically works but if the snake dude feeds on thoughts and Alds can use the Dammakhert to make everyone focus their hate on a single being, could Sonorie plug the snake guy into the Dammakhert and have him feast on an entire country's thoughts?

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Horace Kinch posted:

I forget how the Dammakhert specifically works but if the snake dude feeds on thoughts and Alds can use the Dammakhert to make everyone focus their hate on a single being, could Sonorie plug the snake guy into the Dammakhert and have him feast on an entire country's thoughts?

efheby need a physical catalyst (their venom) to drink people, so probably not. he’s also just not compatible - the only reason they can use roger is because his soul’s been melted and reverse engineered into a grisly usb stick

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

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Also the Queen does not seem that bloodthirsty. If that was the only way to keep her people safe she might make be willing to make that call but she has better things to do with rootkit access than just liquidating everybody.

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
Roger Foi-Helleck doesn't look that good.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

The Suffering of the Succotash.

habeasdorkus posted:

Roger Foi-Helleck doesn't look that good.

Looks like a simpering maggot who deserves nothing better than the hangman's noose to me.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

The Suffering of the Succotash.
ROGER
FOIIIIIIIIIII

HELLECK!!

day-gas
Dec 16, 2020

the holy poopacy posted:

Also the Queen does not seem that bloodthirsty. If that was the only way to keep her people safe she might make be willing to make that call but she has better things to do with rootkit access than just liquidating everybody.

I'd say you could look at her as an offshoot of bloodthirsty - she's been allowing an incredible amount of death to fulfill her goals and while she does seem conflicted, she's still doing it.

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day
All the carnage definitely weights on Sonorie - she's lost her sister and Roger was a genuine friend even if their relationship was a farce - but she's not letting it stop her for a second.

She wants to destroy Alderode and both her own people and innocent Alds on the other side, including the Ssaelit that will be genocided down to the last, are acceptable collateral.

Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this
Good thing we have a zombie soud who's still a devout ssaelit.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

The Suffering of the Succotash.
Sonorie is a monarch, and monarchs trade in genocide the way fish swim. It's a necessary part of her existence.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
alderode has been waging open war against cresce for generations and it's an abomination of a society on top of that so i can sort of sympathize with someone in sonorie's position wanting to give it the sodom & gomorrah treatment

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day
Yeah, realistically there can be no peace with Alderode while Ssaelism persists so regrettably genocide is the only way.

Horace Kinch
Aug 15, 2007

I'm waiting for the Silver+Etalarch Frenzy+Weeping Plague trifecta of warcrimes to all come crashing together.

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012
The aldish gefendeur also basically have a completely different FORM of gefendeurism so they're probably only getting spared in comparison to what the ssaelit are getting if Sonorie gets her way too.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

The Suffering of the Succotash.

reignonyourparade posted:

The aldish gefendeur also basically have a completely different FORM of gefendeurism so they're probably only getting spared in comparison to what the ssaelit are getting if Sonorie gets her way too.

When Sonorie gets her way the only Aldish left alive will be the soud who happen to be gefendeur. Everyone else will be dead, either murdered by each other's hands due to the etelarche curse getting reverse engineered, or finished off when the Crescian army moves in to mop things up.

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.

Conspiratiorist posted:

Yeah, realistically there can be no peace with Alderode while Ssaelism persists so regrettably genocide is the only way.
I was never under the impression Alderode and Cresce got along before Ssaelism either, though perhaps I'm just behind on the blog.

While Alderode and Cresce both have Gefendeur populations, Cresce revolves around a more maternal interpretation (and traditional, IIRC) with Mother Yerta in charge, while Alderode invokes a more more patriarchal reading (with Father Rev on top), so even without the Ssaelit they've got plenty to needle each other over. Real-world schisms have turned violent over less.

JuniperCake
Jan 26, 2013

A.o.D. posted:

When Sonorie gets her way the only Aldish left alive will be the soud who happen to be gefendeur. Everyone else will be dead, either murdered by each other's hands due to the etelarche curse getting reverse engineered, or finished off when the Crescian army moves in to mop things up.

Sure, that's probably the plan if Cresce is in position to do this. But even if the reverse engineering goes exactly as planned, Sonorie still has no heir. And there's a non-zero chance that she, Bell and all of the council nobles in attendance don't survive the night.

It's not nearly on the same level as the curse but effectively losing your entire government overnight is going to have ramifications.

So there might be two countries erupting into anarchy by the end of it all.

JuniperCake fucked around with this message at 12:38 on Sep 22, 2022

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.
Either way, Beadman profits.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
from a Crescian perspective the Alds have already done something to the khert that makes it genocidally inhospitable to Crescians, since children will be automagically altered by the Dhammakhert to be under its dictatorial grip, so corrupting it some more to make it inhospitable to most Alds is only turnabout

Queen Sonorie seems thoroughly aware of what Bell is up to, but she doesn't seem to have tabs on the main characters as such, so perhaps she easily crushes Bell's insurrection only to have her main toying-with-cosmic-forces gambit get unintentionally ruined by some motley group of squabbling adventurers labouring under the impression that they need to save Sonorie from Bell

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
This is gonna be fun.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

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Conspiratiorist posted:

Yeah, realistically there can be no peace with Alderode while Ssaelism persists so regrettably genocide is the only way.

Hmm. It's been hinted that the curse creates an exploit that they could use to inject whatever they wanted, so if the Black Tongues really knew what they were doing there would be any number of elegant solutions possible. But now we see that they're nowhere close to that, and probably aren't even really ready for the brute force genocide solutions. So I wonder if this isn't going to be the wedge: etalarche the Aldish Gefendur against the Ssaelit, or at least their leadership if they need a specific target. Use it to push the country into the civil war they've been staving off for centuries. That would account for Duane's visions of Alderode being war-torn but not utterly destroyed.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

The Suffering of the Succotash.

the holy poopacy posted:

Hmm. It's been hinted that the curse creates an exploit that they could use to inject whatever they wanted, so if the Black Tongues really knew what they were doing there would be any number of elegant solutions possible. But now we see that they're nowhere close to that, and probably aren't even really ready for the brute force genocide solutions. So I wonder if this isn't going to be the wedge: etalarche the Aldish Gefendur against the Ssaelit, or at least their leadership if they need a specific target. Use it to push the country into the civil war they've been staving off for centuries. That would account for Duane's visions of Alderode being war-torn but not utterly destroyed.

I'm still banking on Etelarche against all Aldish being what they come up with.

Vagabong
Mar 2, 2019

A.o.D. posted:

I'm still banking on Etelarche against all Aldish being what they come up with.

bonus points if the original intention is more precise but meddling and rushing it make genocide the only option and Sonorie does it anyway

Daduzi
Nov 22, 2005

You can't hide from the Grim Reaper. Especially when he's got a gun.

the holy poopacy posted:

etalarche the Aldish Gefendur against the Ssaelit

Well that sure is a phrase.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead
ash lives in the tampa area so she's taking a break till Friday to prepare for hurricane and/or evacuation :negative:

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

GreyjoyBastard posted:

ash lives in the tampa area so she's taking a break till Friday to prepare for hurricane and/or evacuation :negative:

She's just been posting porn on Patreon of Duane having gay sex with Jon from the Salt Lizard chapter, so she's alive and well and ready to resume updates on Monday :)

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
I didn’t need to know this

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Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters
Every artist you know is making mountains and mountains of porn of their OCs. Yes, even that one.

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