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I’m reading old X-men comics. At first blush “claustrophobia” sounds like a lame weakness for a superhero but it comes up surprisingly often.
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Gripweed posted:I’m reading old X-men comics. At first blush “claustrophobia” sounds like a lame weakness for a superhero but it comes up surprisingly often. They tend to be in buildings that collapse, or get captured by villains at least temporarily.
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Sep 18, 2022 21:05
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We need a flying character with acrophobia.
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Sep 19, 2022 00:26
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Esplanade posted:We need a flying character with acrophobia. Surprised that hasn't already been applied to Jessica Jones at some point.
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Sep 19, 2022 01:00
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Esplanade posted:We need a flying character with acrophobia. isn't that one of the green lanterns, Jessica Cruz
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Sep 19, 2022 01:12
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I'm not a psychiatrist or a writer, but the idea of having a phobia over something that doesn't apply to you makes weird dramatic sense. Like, I'm pretty sure that if I had impregnable skin like Luke Cage, I wouldn't be nearly as scared of stinging/biting insects. plus even if you were afraid of heights there's nothing stopping you from just hovering like a foot off the ground and air-skating everywhere like a shonen battle manga character
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Sep 19, 2022 01:18
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Alaois posted:isn't that one of the green lanterns, Jessica Cruz That's agoraphobia OnimaruXLR posted:I'm not a psychiatrist or a writer, but the idea of having a phobia over something that doesn't apply to you makes weird dramatic sense. Like, I'm pretty sure that if I had impregnable skin like Luke Cage, I wouldn't be nearly as scared of stinging/biting insects. I mean, the whole thing about phobias is that they're irrational. Plus just from a standpoint of the medium, most superheroes get their powers later in life (even mutants aren't born with them... usually) so they've had plenty of time to establish fears before they're physically immune to the causes. TwoPair fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Sep 19, 2022 |
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Sep 19, 2022 01:25
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Skwirl posted:They tend to be in buildings that collapse, or get captured by villains at least temporarily. also, for some reason claremont villains always restrained storm with various forms of technobondage.
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Sep 19, 2022 02:58
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its his fetish
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Sep 19, 2022 03:07
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gee, you think?
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Sep 19, 2022 03:43
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Esplanade posted:We need a flying character with acrophobia. Meteor Man?
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Sep 19, 2022 04:07
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now there's a movie i haven't seen in decades
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Sep 19, 2022 05:57
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:also, for some reason claremont villains always restrained storm with various forms of technobondage. They all instantly fall in love with her. A major character trait of Storm in these comics is that she is the most beautiful, most enchanting woman in the world. It's weird that later comics kinda dropped that.
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Sep 19, 2022 12:29
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Gripweed posted:They all instantly fall in love with her. A major character trait of Storm in these comics is that she is the most beautiful, most enchanting woman in the world. It's weird that later comics kinda dropped that. I think it makes sense from a storytelling standpoint. She was written as this near-perfect person (with her only flaw being claustrophobia), and her being the most enchanting woman on Earth who's also a hyper-competent leader, every X-Man's best friend, and the most powerful member of the team is kinda hard to swallow. It's not quite Mary Sue territory, but it's close enough. Minister of Sound fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Sep 19, 2022 |
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Sep 19, 2022 13:08
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i mean X-Men red is a good example of her just being that without needing it spelled out for you. she just needs a good writer
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Sep 19, 2022 15:16
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when done well, she's just naturally that awesome and it works.
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Sep 19, 2022 19:22
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The key is giving her a knife.
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Sep 19, 2022 19:31
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She doesn’t need to be given one, she’s already wearing 12. Regardless if the writer knows or not.
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Sep 19, 2022 20:01
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:when done well, she's just naturally that awesome and it works. yeah, I was gonna say when you lay it out like that then Storm sounds like a bad character, but Claremont writes her as a very believable character who makes mistakes and has to rely on her teammates and just happens to be the greatest woman in the world. I gotta be honest with you guys, I'm really starting to like Claremont
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One of the white pages in I believe Legion of X is Dr. Nemesis talking about gods and trying to explain how they work as an atheist, relevant to this e: last page's conversation. I enjoyed it. Basically it's gods have power based on the number of followers but once they get more than 100,000 followers they become fully autonomous and do not appear anymore.
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Sep 20, 2022 03:09
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Gripweed posted:I gotta be honest with you guys, I'm really starting to like Claremont I mean, he didn't stick around as primary writer of the X-Men during their period of greatest popularity because, y'know, he knew a guy who knew a guy or something For all the fun we poke at Claremont, that dude was good
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Rick posted:One of the white pages in I believe Legion of X is Dr. Nemesis talking about gods and trying to explain how they work as an atheist, relevant to this e: last page's conversation. I enjoyed it. Basically it's gods have power based on the number of followers but once they get more than 100,000 followers they become fully autonomous and do not appear anymore. This one?  I'm still reading my way through Peter David's Hulk run and issue 380, where Doc Samson has to assess a woman on Death Row, is some of the hardest hitting stuff I've seen in Marvel. I can see why David's run is held in such high esteem - even a "filler" issue (which carries a warning that Hulk does not appear in the comic) tells an impactful and thought provoking story. I've also noticed a habit of David's that Ewing subsequently used in Immortal Hulk - when cutting from one scene to another, he'll often have the concluding and opening lines of each scene complement each other in some way, sometimes to the extent that lines are directly repeated. There's probably an official term for it but it's a fun trick to keep the reader's momentum going.
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Sep 20, 2022 07:37
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Space Battleship Yamato confirmed for canon in the Marvel Multiverse
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Party Boat posted:I've also noticed a habit of David's that Ewing subsequently used in Immortal Hulk - when cutting from one scene to another, he'll often have the concluding and opening lines of each scene complement each other in some way, sometimes to the extent that lines are directly repeated. There's probably an official term for it but it's a fun trick to keep the reader's momentum going. Yeah, he does the same in X-Factor. I want to say I've seen this in TV shows too, but I forget which ones offhand.
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Party Boat posted:I've also noticed a habit of David's that Ewing subsequently used in Immortal Hulk - when cutting from one scene to another, he'll often have the concluding and opening lines of each scene complement each other in some way, sometimes to the extent that lines are directly repeated. There's probably an official term for it but it's a fun trick to keep the reader's momentum going. I've always liked that, too. I assume he got it from films that do it.
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Sep 20, 2022 16:06
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Chinston Wurchill posted:Yeah, he does the same in X-Factor. I want to say I've seen this in TV shows too, but I forget which ones offhand. Archer did it constantly
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Gripweed posted:Archer did it constantly That's the one, thanks! I knew it was something animated and it was bothering me.
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Sep 20, 2022 16:26
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In comics, it's an Alan Moore-ism mostly; Watchmen practically used it on every scene transition and David probably picked it up there. But yeah, likely done earlier in film/TV, starting from whenever quick cuts caught on.
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Oh yeah Watchmen, duh. I just remembered that Terry Pratchett uses the same technique in Mort, and being Pratchett includes a footnote pointing it out and adding some jokes.
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Sep 20, 2022 19:27
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Party Boat posted:This one? Yeah this is it!
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Sep 20, 2022 20:48
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Party Boat posted:
It's an incredibly common story telling technique in pretty much every medium.
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Sep 20, 2022 20:54
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Skwirl posted:It's an incredibly common story telling technique in pretty much every medium. Killing Joke has images that look similar when the scene changes, and I thought that really added to the feel that the Joker was constantly haunted by/making up his past and that everything he saw reminded him of it. A lot of other uses of similar effects seem too cutesy. Idk, maybe they do add to a feel of continuity in the story, but often it just feels like a much more contorted pun or something, a trick of the craft without meaning.
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Sep 20, 2022 21:24
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I meant specifically having the final line in one scene apply directly to the next scene.
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The best part about Moore using it is that when he wrote his essay in ‘85 he was super proud of how clever it was and then when he went back to reflect on it in 2003 he was mortified by his comments and thought it was incredibly hacky.
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TV Tropes calls it a Twisted Echo Cut but there's probably a more professional term out there.
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I’m still immature enough to think that the Austin Powers take on that is still funny.
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Open Marriage Night posted:I’m still immature enough to think that the Austin Powers take on that is still funny. Same
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Skwirl posted:It's an incredibly common story telling technique in pretty much every medium. Oh word? My point was David and Ewing in Immortal Hulk both lean very heavily on it, and I hadn't previously realised that Ewing was aping David's writing rhythm in that fashion.
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It'sfun how Ewing likes to do those stylistic callbacks. His recent issue of Ant-Man starring Eric O'Grady has a few different examples of that gag Kirkman used to love where several motionless panels repeat in a row. Of course, there's also Talaa in Defenders Beyond being the only character in any given scene who talks like '70s Kirby.
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Wanderer posted:It'sfun how Ewing likes to do those stylistic callbacks. His recent issue of Ant-Man starring Eric O'Grady has a few different examples of that gag Kirkman used to love where several motionless panels repeat in a row. Heck, Ewing even pulls from the 70's Herb Trimpe run of Hulk which still has people pulling from it today.
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