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Aug 18, 2022 18:30
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Opopanax posted:Doing a summer reading bingo thing and I need to read a non-fiction graphic novel, any suggestions? Be great if it were on MU or the DC one but I couldn't find any Palestine, by Joe Sacco.
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Aug 18, 2022 22:10
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Noticed you mentioned being available on MU or DC and It's a Bird.... by Seagle might be available on whatever DC app there is. About Steven Seagle getting an assignment to write Superman but him having a hard time connecting to the character and figuring out what to write about while at the same time dealing with medical and emotional issues going on with his family. It's autobiographical and follows his life while all this is going on.
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Sorry if this isn't the place to ask... I've never bought a graphic novel or comic before (think I've only even read Watchmen and V, to be honest) but I want to read Sandman before watching the series. Is this the edition I should buy? https://www.bookdepository.com/Sandman-Neil-Gaiman/9781401299323?ref=grid-view&qid=1661267880038&sr=1-16 ...and is there a better place to get it than BookDepository? I tend to prefer not to buy stuff off Amazon.
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Jeez, I haven't looked at buying Sandman in 16 years. So many more options than in the past. That seems to be a decent hardcover that's not stupid expensive. There's also this cheaper paperback (with more issues, so less volumes?). https://www.bookdepository.com/Sandman-Book-One-Neil-Gaiman/9781779515179?ref=grid-view&qid=1661272155104&sr=1-7 There's the 9 old school trades, but I'm guessing those aren't worth it compared to these nice collections. You can also look at Absolute if you want the biggest, nicest collection, but I wouldn't spend my cash on that for a story I haven't read. As to where, is there a local store that you can check out? Though, they don't normally have discounts like online stores do. I haven't bought online in years. I used InStockTrades, but their customer service was crappy (I've gotten packages missing books I've paid for with a note saying they will ship the missing book when they get it... But have taken my money for it and no promise that the book will be reprinted anytime soon). Edit: don't do what I did, buy random volumes that random stores at random malls happen to have, reading completely out of order, though luckily getting a consistent set of covers at a time when every reprint had a different style. Uthor fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Aug 23, 2022 |
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Aug 23, 2022 17:36
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El Grillo posted:Sorry if this isn't the place to ask... I've never bought a graphic novel or comic before (think I've only even read Watchmen and V, to be honest) but I want to read Sandman before watching the series. Is this the edition I should buy? https://www.bookdepository.com/Sandman-Neil-Gaiman/9781401299323?ref=grid-view&qid=1661267880038&sr=1-16 If you're just looking to poke your head in, might I suggest the library? I feel like an rear end in a top hat suggesting it, but unless you're already a fan the idea of shelling out for a comic (and a decently long one, at that) seems ill advised. I know I've been burned by it. Even if the first Sandman volume is booked out just grab a random episode as it won't spoil anything and will tell you about the vibe of the series. Maybe I'm just channeling my broke-Uni-student-living-in-free-spaces vibes, tho.
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Serephina posted:just grab a random episode as it won't spoil anything and will tell you about the vibe of the series. Haha, I didn't really get the idea of a limited series when Sandman was coming out and I randomly bought issue #70. Spoilers for the entire storyline! I'm glad I own those last 6 issues, though.
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the first two sandman archs have some kitchy charm, but gaiman doesn't really get to speed as a writer until seasons of mist/a game of you. also, while the show has some questionable alterations and substitutions, it is surprisingly faithful and most of the questionable edits change things that weren't great to begin with. like, if you want to just watch the show and not read the comics beforehand, you're not going to loose out on a ton, it isn't like going to the watchmen and being like, where's the squid yo? dc did a remaster, redid the colors and separations and rescanned the art for the issue dick giordano inked in a day, that was back in the early 00s. these editions look a lot better, so if you're shopping used, try to avoid the collections from the 90s
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Awesome, thanks for the suggestions folks. I'm a fan of Gaiman I've just never read Sandman. So I figure might as well give it a proper whirl, the show's not going anywhere and I usually prefer to read an original before watching an adaptation (which I guess makes me a masochist in 90% of cases?) I'll pick up the first 20 issues paperback Uthor found (super cheap!) but it's helpful to hear that the first two archs are maybe not representative of the real deal goodness.
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The Voice of Labor posted:it isn't like going to the watchmen and being like, where's the squid yo? The squid was fine, if a bit out of left field, and removing it for the movie was a solid improvement. I just view it as Alan Moore running off-leash for a bit. Sandman was retroactively acknowledged to be good only halfway through it's run, it'll be interesting to hear if the tv adaptation holds its own once things pick up.
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Serephina posted:The squid was fine, if a bit out of left field, and removing it for the movie was a solid improvement. I just view it as Alan Moore running off-leash for a bit. lol. the squid is the impetus for the whole book. vietch killed the comedian because the comedian saw the squid factory. no squid = no reason for anything else to have happened afterwards
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Aug 24, 2022 04:29
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The squid was set up long before in all the back matter. As for Sandman Gaiman said he found his voice and got into the rhythm with Dolls House (or sound of her wings). He has admitted that the first story arc was him still figuring things out and trying for more purely horror comic. There is a tonal shift from first to second story and I think once sound of her wings start the comic is excellent to the end.
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It doesn't have to be a psychic squid. It could have been any mundane megalomaniac project, which is what it got changed to. The entire setting was built around "Earth, but one actual superhero", then Moore does his special thing where he sounds like a person off their meds and suddenly psychics and empaths become real at the 99th percentile of the page count. So yea, they tweaked it so that all the comedian stuff still happened (but mostly offscreen, due to time constraints) and the big conspiracy reveal happens anyways, but no squid. edit: I suppose the worst thing you could say about it was that it lessens the impact/self-determination of Manhatten's final choice, but that's pretty dang minor compared to trying to get audiences to swallow a 200-ton cephalopod. double edit:vvvv But it worked! That's the wonderful thing about writing fiction, you can decide who's right and how things work. In the comic, the entire world unifies over an alien, while in the movie the entire world unifies over the betrayal of it's local superman. They bought it hook line and sinker either way; six one way half a doz another. Serephina fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Aug 24, 2022 |
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Serephina posted:It doesn't have to be a psychic squid. It could have been any mundane megalomaniac project, which is what it got changed to.
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I’ve been reading an excellent Legion of Superheroes Chronology I found but I’ve been really getting bogged down in the Silver Age and think I’m ready to move on. When does the more modern (Bronze Age?) Legion start?
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Are any of the Ash Williams/Evil Dead comics any good?
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Are any of the Ash Williams/Evil Dead comics any good? The Dynamite stuff is at least good, I remember liking VS Reanimator a lot. The Marvel Zombies one is a lot of fun too
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Not sure if this is the right thread to ask, but what's a good reader + app combination for someone who wants to expand their collection and has no shelf space left? I know the iPad Air is probably king, but the only app I know by name is Comixology and it sounds like utter poo poo. Ideally, I'd like something that will work on an ARM Surface and handle paid comics and eBooks along with some not-so-paid content I've had lying around since that stuff was available on SA. More than willing to upgrade that to paid versions if the panel-by-panel zooming is worthwhile.
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There's a digital comics thread, but my OP is completely out of date. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3611527&pagenumber=1&perpage=40 I'll look up some specific apps that I use when I get off work. Sorry for not giving you a good answer with this post.
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I use an app called Chunky on the iPad to stream from something called an "Ubooquity" server on my computer, and it's a great system. I keep all my files on my desktop, so I don't know how it would interface with an online service, but I can't imagine a nicer setup, once you have it in place. edit: and there's something called Komga which is even nicer (it's very much like Plex) and can still use Chunky for reading, but - it relies on metadata completely, so if any of your files don't contain them, it won't be useful. Ubooquity doesn't have that limitation but it's limited in other ways. Chinook fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Sep 19, 2022 |
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Sep 19, 2022 22:44
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Chinook posted:I use an app called Chunky on the iPad to stream from something called an "Ubooquity" server on my computer, and it's a great system. I keep all my files on my desktop, so I don't know how it would interface with an online service, but I can't imagine a nicer setup, once you have it in place. This is something I don't know anything about! I wrote a more general reply in the Digital Comics thread to using the systems the big publishers use, but TL;DR, it's basically comiXology.  https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3611527&pagenumber=155#post526386354
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Didn't Amazon kill comixology?
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Skwirl posted:Didn't Amazon kill comixology? No technically! comiXology is still around, but mixed in their store. I think the main store is the only way to read stuff, but comiXology is the app. I think they removed buying via the app on all of the OSes. They also updated the app and it kinda SUCKS, now.
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I want to practice lettering. Are there any comics or pages that have notably bad (or not well liked) lettering that I could re-do as a project?
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deep dish peat moss posted:I want to practice lettering. Are there any comics or pages that have notably bad (or not well liked) lettering that I could re-do as a project? Right on, good question. One that stuck out to me as a deterrent for reading was the Marz/Braga later Witchblade run. This issue #174 preview on Amazon for example. Dialogue especially, maybe I just don't like the font. I remember it looking worse too. https://www.amazon.com/Witchblade-174-Ron-Marz-ebook/dp/B015XDYT2I Other than that, when lowercase lettering became more of a thing in the early 2000s I recall some awkward looking books. This is a hot take, but I've got all those Darwyn Cooke Parker books on my shelf. Been meaning to read them, they look really cool. The narration/prose feels a bit hard to read at times, the handwriting style pretty much. I think readability is much more important than style. For example, the Dark Horse Conan stuff just had a typewriter font for a pulpy feel for some of the narration/prose quotes from Howard. But while stylistic, it was also easy to read. Savage Dragon recently got a new letterer and had two prospects try-out with issue 260. The Savage Fincast compared each page and talked about the bubble choices etc they made, was interesting stuff. I didn't think about bubble nuances as much before that. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Sep 27, 2022 |
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I have not read a monthly series in quite a while but I did get suckered into a Marvel Unlimied subscriptions last December. And I am a sucker for John Romita Jr and I see he is on Amazing Spidey with Zeb Wells. Is the start of the run Amazing 2022 1-5 okay to start with or is there a previous book/arc I should read to get caught up?
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notthegoatseguy posted:I have not read a monthly series in quite a while but I did get suckered into a Marvel Unlimied subscriptions last December. And I am a sucker for John Romita Jr and I see he is on Amazing Spidey with Zeb Wells. Is the start of the run Amazing 2022 1-5 okay to start with or is there a previous book/arc I should read to get caught up? You'll probably be fine. I haven't actually read it, but it starts with a time jump and some new status quo stuff that might make it seem like you missed something important, but it's just the story starting in media res from what I've gathered. Oh and if you haven't read it and like JRJR art, I highly recommend the Neil Gaiman Eternals miniseries. You don't really need to know anything about the Eternals, it takes place either during or just after the first Civil War event, so Iron-Man pops up once to mention The Super Hero Registration Act and then it doesn't affect the comic in any way.
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The last run of the previous volume vaguely leads into it, but really it's just jumps into a story full of MYSTERIES that are, to the current issue, unresolved, so just jump in and be as confused as the rest of us. (FWIW I've been enjoying it a lot when it doesn't involve the weird unresolved mysteries.)
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deep dish peat moss posted:I want to practice lettering. Are there any comics or pages that have notably bad (or not well liked) lettering that I could re-do as a project? dame darcy's lettering is borderline unreadable but it's hard to call it bad when it fits everything else in her books. also dame darcy comics are probably not really what people think of when they think of comic books or comic book lettering
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Any web comics I might like? My top three comics are Savage Dragon, Judge Dredd, and Invincible. I haven't been too into web comics, read a little Penny Arcade 20 years ago etc. I have the Dr. McNinja omnibus, gonna try that one for sure. I respect Achewood, and I understand it's a masterpiece, so that one is also covered. And not to say they need to be action or comic booky. I also have some Giant Days books I'll try. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Oct 14, 2022 |
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Oof, I'm so out of touch with webcomics these days, but Vattu just ended. It's great if you are into fantasy settings. http://www.rice-boy.com/vattu/ Obvious from the url that it's by the creator of Rice Boy, which I would highly recommend. Oglaf is a fun once a week comic, usually one page jokes. Just a warning that it's so  that they label Safe for Work updates specifically.https://www.oglaf.com/ Gunnerkrigg Court is a long running classic, but I had to stop following the SA thread about it cause other Goons weren't super into it of the last couple of years. https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/ Huh, I'm surprised to recommend so much fantasy adjacent stuff, I'm more of a sci-fi fan.
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Digger is really good, if old http://diggercomic.com There’s the works of Øyvind Thorsby, like Hitmen for Destiny. The art’s rough but it’s a pretty wild ride. I can’t really say I know too many really recent good webcomics. This is probably caused by a lot of webcomic creators moving to Webtoon, a site that I don’t go to.
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thetoughestbean posted:This is probably caused by a lot of webcomic creators moving to Webtoon, a site that I don’t go to. Nothing Special on webtoon! https://www.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/nothing-special/list?title_no=1188&page=1 Hasn't updated since June. And weird that it's another fantasy comic that I enjoy...
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Lavender Jack on Webtoons is a masterpiece.
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Thanks folks!
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Apologies if off topic, but what are the eras of DC called that happen after Rebirth? For example Detective Comics, after Rebirth, goes into Gleason, then there is a Tamaki run. What are those called?
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the bronzing spray age
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Are all the Spider-Man Noir good? I read and loved the first one a long time ago. Are there other sorta socialist flavored heroes worth reading? What Spider Verse collected stuff is good, and what should I avoid?
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Are all the Spider-Man Noir good? I read and loved the first one a long time ago. The second one was pretty good too. Unless you mean all the Noir books in general. I read them ages ago and barely remember them, but they were mostly pretty good. Iron Man Noir is more of a pulpy sci fi and Luke Cage is a Blacksploitation thing and those stood out. Ewing's stuff is probably your best bet for socialism.
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