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Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Isentropy posted:

Watching 22 year old IT types call Jagmeet Singh, the most lib "left" politician to ever live, a terrorist really loving drilled home how connected Hindutva is to, at least, the Ontario diaapora

tbh if he is canadian sikh then the man has a huge boner for Khalistan which literally entails carving an ethnostate out of punjab, haryana, delhi and parts of Uttar Pradesh.
Anyways, this particular thing isn't a diaspora problem

https://twitter.com/scorpiogrooove/status/1571539086506074113

Its extremely dumb middle class kids who don't understand that epic deus vult kill muslim crusader memes are made by manchildren instead of the IT departments of major western political parties.

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Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Alpha 1 posted:

Fourth time. The spin seems to be that this was always America's official position on Taiwan, and you're a stupid baby if you ever believed it was "strategic ambiguity":

https://twitter.com/MarkHertling/status/1571650071367647232

Wtf do you do as a foreign power to interpret this brain soup? Do you take biden's word, his handlers, do you just hope that Trump will come into the office and nobody has to care about Taiwan anymore? What?

Tempora Mutantur
Feb 22, 2005

Cpt_Obvious posted:

Wtf do you do as a foreign power to interpret this brain soup? Do you take biden's word, his handlers, do you just hope that Trump will come into the office and nobody has to care about Taiwan anymore? What?

"lol guess he wants his own red line statement like obama"

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

Cpt_Obvious posted:

Wtf do you do as a foreign power to interpret this brain soup? Do you take biden's word, his handlers, do you just hope that Trump will come into the office and nobody has to care about Taiwan anymore? What?

the same thing that happened when trump would babble out of his rear end something that might have serious implications: ignore it entirely until you're specifically ordered otherwise by someone with a less melted brain. its pretty funny this is a common phenomenon now

GlassEye-Boy
Jul 12, 2001

Cpt_Obvious posted:

Wtf do you do as a foreign power to interpret this brain soup? Do you take biden's word, his handlers, do you just hope that Trump will come into the office and nobody has to care about Taiwan anymore? What?

Build up your nuclear deterrent because you can't trust the US to be a rational actor.

Also, apparently US companies are wising up and storing customer data in China to keep it out of reach of the US government.

https://www.reuters.com/world/data-hosting-china-hampers-us-law-enforcement-prosecutor-2022-07-20/

GlassEye-Boy has issued a correction as of 20:15 on Sep 19, 2022

Alpha 1
Feb 17, 2012

Cpt_Obvious posted:

Wtf do you do as a foreign power to interpret this brain soup? Do you take biden's word, his handlers, do you just hope that Trump will come into the office and nobody has to care about Taiwan anymore? What?

If I were China I would try to bide my time and hope Joe Biden is replaced by someone more level headed and diplomatic, like Joe Biden:

Joe Biden posted:

Words matter, in diplomacy and in law.

Last week President Bush was asked if the United States had an obligation to defend Taiwan if it was attacked by China. He replied, "Yes, we do, and the Chinese must understand that. Yes, I would."

The interviewer asked, "With the full force of the American military?"

President Bush replied, "Whatever it took" to help Taiwan defend itself.

A few hours later, the president appeared to back off this startling new commitment, stressing that he would continue to abide by the "one China" policy followed by each of the past five administrations.

Where once the United States had a policy of "strategic ambiguity" -- under which we reserved the right to use force to defend Taiwan but kept mum about the circumstances in which we might, or might not, intervene in a war across the Taiwan Strait -- we now appear to have a policy of ambiguous strategic ambiguity. It is not an improvement.

The United States has a vital interest in helping Taiwan sustain its vibrant democracy. I remain as committed today to preserving Taiwan's autonomy as I was 22 years ago when I cast my vote in favor of the Taiwan Relations Act, which obligates the United States to provide Taiwan "with such defense articles and defense services . . . as may be necessary to enable Taiwan to maintain a sufficient self-defense capability." I remain committed to the principle that Taiwan's future must be determined only by peaceful means, consistent with the wishes of the people of Taiwan.

What is the appropriate role for the United States? The president's national security adviser last Wednesday claimed that "the Taiwan Relations Act makes very clear that the U.S. has an obligation that Taiwan's peaceful way of life is not upset by force."

No. Not exactly. The United States has not been obligated to defend Taiwan since we abrogated the 1954 Mutual Defense Treaty signed by President Eisenhower and ratified by the Senate. The Taiwan Relations Act articulates, as a matter of policy, that any attempt to determine the future of Taiwan by other than peaceful means would constitute "a threat to the peace and security of the Western Pacific area" and would be, "of grave concern to the United States."

The act obliges the president to notify Congress in the event of any threat to the security of Taiwan, and stipulates that the president and Congress shall determine, in accordance with constitutional processes, an appropriate response by the United States.

So, if the choice is between an "obligation" and a "policy," what is all the fuss about?

As a matter of diplomacy, there is a huge difference between reserving the right to use force and obligating ourselves, a priori, to come to the defense of Taiwan. The president should not cede to Taiwan, much less to China, the ability automatically to draw us into a war across the Taiwan Strait. Moreover, to make good on the president's pledge, we would almost certainly want to use our bases on Okinawa, Japan.

But there is no evidence the president has consulted with Japan about an explicit and significant expansion of the terms of reference for the U.S.-Japan Security Alliance. Although the alliance provides for joint operations in the areas surrounding Japan, the inclusion of Taiwan within that scope is an issue of the greatest sensitivity in Tokyo. Successive Japanese governments have avoided being pinned down on the issue, for fear of fracturing the alliance.

As a matter of law, obligations and policies are also worlds apart. The president has broad policymaking authority in the realm of foreign policy, but his powers as commander in chief are not absolute. Under the Constitution, as well as the provisions of the Taiwan Relations Act, the commitment of U.S. forces to the defense of Taiwan is a matter the president should bring to the American people and Congress.

I was quick to praise the president's deft handling of the dispute with China over the fate of the downed U.S. surveillance aircraft.

But in this case, his inattention to detail has damaged U.S. credibility with our allies and sown confusion throughout the Pacific Rim.

Words matter.

The writer, a U.S. senator from Delaware, is the senior Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...nline_manual_30

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
Do I root for the Hindus or the muslims?

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Bidens mushed brain becoming more and more hawkish as death grows closer to him

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Busy Bee posted:

I was told by a CIA operative that I can drink from the tap anywhere in the US though and China has food stalls everywhere that sell dog meat and scorpions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY_ZL1uJw-k

I've been to Canada, I've been to resorts in Mexico, like I've done the stuff that most Americans do.

I don't have to do this in America, I can literally go to any sink in the United States and like grab a glass and drink some water yeah it might taste bad but it's not actually going to give me a long-term permanent gastro-intestinal issue.

Some Guy TT has issued a correction as of 22:00 on Sep 19, 2022

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

I'm 35 years old, isn't Taiwans "vibrant democracy" younger than me?

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

tapered legs are in

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

Mr Hootington posted:

Do I root for the Hindus or the muslims?

the maoists

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 9 hours!

Mr Hootington posted:

Do I root for the Hindus or the muslims?

I’m rooting for the parsis, it’s their time to shine.

Dumpmaster General
Sep 8, 2022

by sebmojo

Lil China Gay rear end

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011


thread title plz

Fortaleza
Feb 21, 2008

AnimeIsTrash posted:

I’m rooting for the parsis, it’s their time to shine.

Weren't the Gandhi/Nehru family originally Parsis

Fortaleza
Feb 21, 2008

Wait that's the joke isn't it, my bad

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

Fortaleza posted:

Weren't the Gandhi/Nehru family originally Parsis

you missed the most important person descended from Parsis — Freddie Mercury

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china

Cpt_Obvious posted:

Wtf do you do as a foreign power to interpret this brain soup? Do you take biden's word, his handlers, do you just hope that Trump will come into the office and nobody has to care about Taiwan anymore? What?

I believe Biden when he says this. He's had enormous success getting the US tangled up in Ukraine. From his point-of-view, Biden wants China to try some kind of annexation of Taiwan. Defending Taiwan from the mainland would give Biden the narrative legitimacy to put boots on the ground in Ukraine by painting China/Russia as Axis powers. Any ambiguity on policy exists in the hopes that China does something aggressive enough to warrant unlimited escalation on the part of the US. The policy specialists aren't the ones backed by the alphabet agencies- Biden is. The MIC is a foundational cartel running US national policy so boots on the ground (on a possible two fronts) would be a big win for Biden—and he could pretend to be the calm rational guy while doing so, even though it's just alphabet soup rolling off his tongue

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor


so did western media coverage of china shift from LGBT friendly-ish to "they will send you to jail if you are trans" because the usa is fighting a proxy war with russia via ukraine and they wanna do it in china? I hear pro and anti lgbt china stuff a lot so I sorta assume it's just more identity-appealing-propaganda and china probably isn't any worse than the anti-lgbt states in the USA

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Mr Hootington posted:

Do I root for the Hindus or the muslims?

Root for Robert Mueller and the rule of law

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Root for the ethnostate that built the RRR.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Mr Hootington posted:

Do I root for the Hindus or the muslims?

The Jains

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 9 hours!

The jains tend to be some of the wealthiest people in the country.

Fortaleza posted:

Weren't the Gandhi/Nehru family originally Parsis

Indira's husband was Parsi iirc.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Hindutvas are just mad bc they're not getting pussy.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
https://twitter.com/quanyi_li2/status/1572020255425458176

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


they should host the forum on WeChat groups

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1567133984198369281

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011


really?

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
random video with ad libbed description is my favorite genre of china tweet. it rocks

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/MikeBlack114/status/1571401031539367939

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

AnimeIsTrash posted:

I’m rooting for the parsis, it’s their time to shine.

they all left for america dude. Ahead of the curve really.

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009


another reason to bring back landlord genocide

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

if my landlord told me I had to sleep on the street cause I was late with a covid test and they didn't trust me, they had better watch out

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Antonymous posted:

another reason to bring back landlord genocide

that has nothing to do with landlords or renting. that would be a building security policy and would apply even if you owned the apartment

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Who enforces that policy during Covid? I am calling them landlord. even if I own the apartment they are obv. lord of my land

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Antonymous posted:

Who enforces that policy during Covid? I am calling them landlord. even if I own the apartment they are obv. lord of my land

the security guards working the night shift at the gate are not your landlord. dont be dumb.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

anyway that doesnt make total sense to me, because i dont see how you could have a red code (which means you are suspected of actually having the virus, like you had contact with someone who was positive and now you have a fever and are coughing, that type of thing) and somehow walk around the city outside your apartment and not end up in at least temporary quarantine in a hospital or something. maybe they mean those people had a yellow code and put off getting the test until midnight or something when all the testing centers were closed?

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

ok, i clicked on the little source tweet button and it was this:

https://twitter.com/Xx17965797N/status/1567092633373122561

which makes more sense to me. those people probably didnt have a red or yellow code at all and the "bernie's tweets" guy is making up incorrect details for embellishment because he's either a liar or he doesn't understand what he's talking about

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1571952129627271168

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