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namlosh posted:People have more than one set of headphones??? I think you're in the wrong thread  My partner has more than one pair of headphones and all she does is listen to podcasts and audiobooks. One for home and one for work, and neither of them are particularly high end. I think I have... three? One for work, one for casual listening, and a beater pair if I want to turn them up really loud or something.
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namlosh posted:People have more than one set of headphones??? I'm afraid to count, but I think it's somewhere around 15. Most of them have been very good deals from classified ads, some have been paid for by work, and I've also sold off a bunch. It's key to being an audiophool on a budget.
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qirex posted:This is how most of the audio market works, you make "halo" gear almost nobody actually buys to get attention and make most of your money selling the base models or one tier up. KEF probably sells 10,000 pairs of Q series bookshelf speakers for every set of Blades. Then you send the halo gear to reviewers so they can kiss your rear end. There's seems to be something about the headphone market that exacerbates the hoarding itch, though. Maybe it's just because they're physically smaller? It's hard to have a dozen pairs of tower speakers unless you have a 3000 square foot Zeos basement. For some reason there are zillion people selling their used KEF LS50s in my small local used market which always strike me as a huge red flag.
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Palladium posted:relative to what X is the question Relative to just about any even remotely attainable metal? Beryllium is both incredibly toxic (meaning massive OSHA regs for production environments) and too brittle to shape using traditional means. The old Yamaha beryllium drivers used vapour deposition in vacuum chambers on copper forms that would be etched away. I went to an interesting presentation about brazing beryllium in nuclear reactor parts, it’s legit phd stuff as opposed to stamping a little piece of titanium into a dome.
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Palladium posted:For some reason there are zillion people selling their used KEF LS50s in my small local used market which always strike me as a huge red flag. people online have decided en masse that they suck and are dogshit now
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Sep 18, 2022 02:32
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Crossposting this from the stupid music poo poo thread:Kingo Ligma posted:Today's lmao: Digital audiophile gear remains the dumbest poo poo.
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power conditioners and uber-expensive analog unbalanced cables are the next best-in-line scams
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I’m inclined to say that a lot of the incentive to go with balanced gear/cables is a scam (or at least they aren’t worth it), but you can easily put together a good balanced setup for not much more than unbalanced so you may as well
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DoesNotCompute posted:Relative to just about any even remotely attainable metal? Beryllium is both incredibly toxic (meaning massive OSHA regs for production environments) and too brittle to shape using traditional means. The old Yamaha beryllium drivers used vapour deposition in vacuum chambers on copper forms that would be etched away. I went to an interesting presentation about brazing beryllium in nuclear reactor parts, it’s legit phd stuff as opposed to stamping a little piece of titanium into a dome. Why do we have incredibly toxic metals in consumer headphones?
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KillHour posted:Why do we have incredibly toxic metals in consumer headphones? Well if you’re not inhaling it as a dust or stabbing yourself with a shard of it you’re fine. Think asbestos rules, fine when inert, hilariously deadly otherwise.
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DoesNotCompute posted:Well if you’re not inhaling it as a dust or stabbing yourself with a shard of it you’re fine. Think asbestos rules, fine when inert, hilariously deadly otherwise. Oh cool so when these are broken and get sent to the landfill or taken apart or whatever, there will never be any issues
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KillHour posted:Oh cool so when these are broken and get sent to the landfill or taken apart or whatever, there will never be any issues Only beryllium powder is considered hazardous waste I’m fairly sure. The reason it’s expensive to make things out of it is because it is in this hazardous form during production and the fact that around 2kg of beryllium costs as much as around a metric ton of titanium.
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DoesNotCompute posted:Only beryllium powder is considered hazardous waste I’m fairly sure. The reason it’s expensive to make things out of it is because it is in this hazardous form during production and the fact that around 2kg of beryllium costs as much as around a metric ton of titanium. Beryllium is essential for national security
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Spazzle posted:Beryllium is essential for national security Professor Lane has that issue amply covered.
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DoesNotCompute posted:Relative to just about any even remotely attainable metal? Beryllium is both incredibly toxic (meaning massive OSHA regs for production environments) and too brittle to shape using traditional means. The old Yamaha beryllium drivers used vapour deposition in vacuum chambers on copper forms that would be etched away. I went to an interesting presentation about brazing beryllium in nuclear reactor parts, it’s legit phd stuff as opposed to stamping a little piece of titanium into a dome. Side by side, the improvements in resonance/decay times, lower distortion and extended high frequency response between titanium and beryllium diaphragms are immediately obvious to pretty much everyone, too. In addition to the toxic and dangerous manufacturing process, they also tend to be small-run orders which further increases the cost. Still, at $5k there is plenty of profit per-unit for those Focal Utopias even when you account for R&D time. The highest-end LCD series cans from Audeze sound better anyway. Not that I’m ever likely to spend that much cash. Luckily, some modern carbon-fibre textile manufacturing methods get ~80% of Beryllium’s stiffness/Young’s modulus properties at around half the price. TeXtreme is one ready-made product, but several other loudspeaker parts manufacturers are rolling their own. If you’re paying ‘street price’ you can get a pair of poo poo-hot carbon fibre compression drivers for just over a thousand bucks. https://faitalpro.com/en/products/HF_Drivers/product_details/index.php?id=502020190 Stick those on a $60 horn such as Eighteen Sound XT1464 and you’ve got much better HF than most >$20k hifi systems. Neurophonic fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Sep 19, 2022 |
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Ok Comboomer posted:people online have decided en masse that they suck and are dogshit now is this a real thing
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Palladium posted:is this a real thing Audiophiles doing a stupid based on internet forum trends sounds believable to me
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Aw yesss, Roon added remote playback support and native apple silicon support as well.
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Remote streaming was like the one missing big feature, roon is the best. All I can think of they could add is room correction at the core level [roon correction ?  ] and remote library backup.
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qirex posted:Remote streaming was like the one missing big feature, roon is the best. All I can think of they could add is room correction at the core level [roon correction ? I just signed up for it a couple of months ago and was considering cancelling because I just don't value it enough without remote streaming. Think I'll be keeping my subscription now.
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I'd say the biggest risk to paying for Roon is some big company might buy them out and ruin it. Otherwise it's my favorite audio "gear" purchase of the last few years so cheers to early Covid lockdown brain for convincing me to splurge on lifetime. That said it's not perfect and it's not for everybody and it is stupidly expensive but it works great for me and not having to rely on Sonos software anymore is huge.
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qirex posted:That said it's not perfect and it's not for everybody and it is stupidly expensive but it works great for me and not having to rely on Sonos software anymore is huge. I'm using some old Dell laptops I got for free (7390's with batteries removed, 7280/7390 batteries are time bombs). Uses WASAPI Exclusive mode over HDMI for full bitperfect transmission. It's not so expensive unless you're buying these insanely overpriced endpoints. I have these two roon endpoints connected as inputs on each of my AV receivers for wireless full lossless playback for when I'm sitting down for a dedicated session. I still have Sonos speakers all over my house, and honestly prefer the interface/apps over Roon's. Once I got rid of my older 2.4ghz Sonos gear and have only newer 5ghz Sonos gear, everything has absolutely rock solid with my Sonos setup for almost 1 year now. This is with 7 speakers spanning 3 levels, with all of them on wifi, none hardwired. No exaggeration when I say rock solid, either. I'm talking what seems like 5 9's level reliability. It was not like that before when I had mixed setup with wired/wireless/sonosnet, not even close. It was downright bad sometimes. Brain Issues fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Sep 21, 2022 |
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I now have a near-Pavlovian response to the Purple Light of Bit Perfect Transport [if you're not familiar it goes to green if transcoded and orange for filthy lossy compression] My Sonos speakers have been great, as many gripes about them as a company I have they make quality stuff, I'm just over using my Connect and definitely not replacing it with a Port. For my living room I just stream to my TV and get the nice 55" now playing screen. qirex fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Sep 21, 2022 |
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qirex posted:My Sonos speakers have been great, as many gripes about them as a company I have they make quality stuff, I'm just over using my Connect and definitely not replacing it with a Port. For my living room I just stream to my TV and get the nice 55" now playing screen. So I'm just now getting around to trying out ARC and... why aren't they bringing this to the desktop???? The only way you can listen remotely is via a mobile device. No desktop OS support. Why??? The main reason I wanted remote access feature is so I can listen on my laptop at work. Edit: I guess I can VPN into my home network and it works via the old Roon software. Brain Issues fucked around with this message at 14:29 on Sep 21, 2022 |
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qirex posted:I'd say the biggest risk to paying for Roon is some big company might buy them out and ruin it. Otherwise it's my favorite audio "gear" purchase of the last few years so cheers to early Covid lockdown brain for convincing me to splurge on lifetime. I have my PC connected to my TV/AVR and stream Qobuz and my local music files through that, would the only thing that Roon gives me be a better recommendation system if I don't need any other streaming features/EQ ability/library management etc?
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Mozi posted:I have my PC connected to my TV/AVR and stream Qobuz and my local music files through that, would the only thing that Roon gives me be a better recommendation system if I don't need any other streaming features/EQ ability/library management etc? Reasons I got it:
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 help, my $4000 headphones are muffled, but I believe that if I burn them in until the return window passes that they'll open up more also what is EQ
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How much is burning in your speakers just audiophile mumbo jumbo? Is it actually a real thing, or just 100% bullshit?
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BonHair posted:How much is burning in your speakers just audiophile mumbo jumbo? Is it actually a real thing, or just 100% bullshit? There is a measurable shift in complex valued impedance and therefore Thiele-Small parameters, but in the vast majority of cases: - the differences aren’t audible in double blind testing - return to the ‘new’ state after the transducer is left unused for a period of a week or two Plus the process is typically done at the factory or occurs naturally by just using the drat product you’ve bought.
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Burn in is also generally said to conveniently be just longer than the product warranty.
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njsykora posted:Burn in is also generally said to conveniently be just longer than the product warranty.
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BonHair posted:How much is burning in your speakers just audiophile mumbo jumbo? Is it actually a real thing, or just 100% bullshit? short answer: Yes, it's bullshit long answer: Yyyyyeeeessssssss, iiiiiiitttttt'sssss bbbuuuuulllllshhhiiiiiiiiiitttt
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If burn in was real, why don't they offer it as a service from the factory?
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Speaker Break-in is mostly bullshit in my experience (other than Magnepans, all that glue has to do it’s thing), but speaker warm-up is definitely not bullshit. It takes a good several minutes for most speakers to sound good at anything above a moderate volume. My Quads need 10-15 minutes of playing before you can really open the taps - they distort like a motherfucker if you try before that, even if they’ve been plugged in for days keeping the panels charged.
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What?! Your speakers somehow have to be warmed up?! Doubtful man.
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redeyes posted:What?! Your speakers somehow have to be warmed up?! Doubtful man.
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When I was in college everyone got sick of the K240s/MDR7506s the profs recommended around the same time, and there was a big rush on monitor sales. We all bought into the 'burn-in phase' thing so for a few days my roommates and I just left our monitors on at a gentle volume and it was kind of weird walking through the house hearing Deftones and Muse and drum & bass and tech house whispering out of every open door.
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redeyes posted:What?! Your speakers somehow have to be warmed up?! Doubtful man. Not for normal volumes but for volumes where you can see the cones moving quite a bit, it seems like they need some heat in them. At least for the majority of speakers I’ve owned. And I’m not talking about a long time, but they seem to loosen up progressively over the course of a few minutes, the more aggressive with the volume you are the less time it takes.
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RIP Paul Walker posted:Not for normal volumes but for volumes where you can see the cones moving quite a bit, it seems like they need some heat in them. At least for the majority of speakers I’ve owned. huh, so kind of outliers FWIW, my 1970s Marshall tube amp changes tone drastically in the first 30 mins of being turned on, after which my house starts smelling like im buring old wood. Awesome
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i have never seen a speaker cone move in a visible way in the flesh
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