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Ghost Leviathan posted:ROB is great, they should bring back ROB The only good thing Nintendo has ever created.
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DontMockMySmock posted:And usually some variant of "no 'major' glitches" or "no out-of-bounds" or similar, as well, for those who want a semi-glitchy experience they're still gonna play like a speedrunner though if you want to see "normal" gameplay instead of alucard spamming backdash across the entire castle because it's faster than running forwards, and skipping past every possible enemy he can instead of fighting it, you are gonna be disappointed
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Ghost Leviathan posted:ROB is great, they should bring back ROB https://youtu.be/DxxvlZ1zFJ8
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Caesar Saladin posted:Every video ive seen about speedrunning has them drop some phrase like "He spent thousands of hours and months grinding out this level to get the record" like that's an okay and healthy thing to do. They aren't just speedrunning, they're running from some kind of darkness deep inside themselves. People have hobbies you know. You can have a job and social life and still get some endorphins doing whatever it is gets you off, be it speed running or watching NFL or building an intricately detailed model train diorama.
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Some years ago I tried 100% Super Metroid speedruns, it's probably my #1 and the tricks/exploits in it are really fun so I figured why not. I wasn't great at it or anything, I think I got it down to around a 1+ hour ingame time and said good enough, cause I was getting sick of it already after a couple runs. I can't imagine doing this every day for thousands of hours, that does seem a little weird but w/e, you do you.
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galagazombie posted:People have hobbies you know. You can have a job and social life and still get some endorphins doing whatever it is gets you off, be it speed running or watching NFL or building an intricately detailed model train diorama. fwiw I don't respect them either
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Beartaco posted:fwiw I don't respect them either  Speedrunning is less of a hobby and more of a depression symptom
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The only speed run I care about is how quickly I can destroy my enemies ancient
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Speed running is like racing Nobody sits around and willingly watches someone drive the same circuit for 5+ hours trying to wring out another 2 seconds off their lap time. I like to watch them do it real fast and marvel at the insane dedication but I would in no way be interested in watching the build up (or ever doing it myself) because it's even more boring than driving in circles. More speedruns should incorporate fires and explosions is my takeaway.
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I would watch 1000 speed runs of increasingly more obscure 1980s videogames before I'm bored enough to watch one lap of an F1 race
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JollyBoyJohn posted:I would watch 1000 speed runs of increasingly more obscure 1980s videogames before I'm bored enough to watch one lap of an F1 race If it was a lap with an explosion it might be worth it
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I just did a speedrun of the last two pages.
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The best mario game in the entire franchise is mario land 3: wario land
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as with everything nintendo the best marios are the ones you played as a kid no company coasts on nostalgia better than nintendo
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:as with everything nintendo the best marios are the ones you played as a kid Blizzard come close
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The best video game title continues to be Star Wars Dark Forces 3 Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast
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i got the speed runs
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Rutibex posted:yeah chun li always wore leggings. now if they change sakuras character design I can see the fans being quite upset. concidering sakura is just "Ryu with panty shots" They did change her for Street Fighter V, but...  ...lmao.
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The most annoying part of speedrunning is people deciding old games were poorly written and "broken" because entire communities of obsessed people have been working 40 hours per week of their time probing for exploits and glitches for literal decades. Like I overheard people talking about Ocarina of Time as a broken game, which is ridiculous because the glitches in that game are pretty much never encountered in normal gameplay.
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FF6, especially, is a very solid game experience and I don't care how easy it is to absolutely destroy by speedrunners. There are a few bugs but I don't recall loving with any of them the first thousand times I played it, even the MDEF bug.
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DildenAnders posted:The most annoying part of speedrunning is people deciding old games were poorly written and "broken" because entire communities of obsessed people have been working 40 hours per week of their time probing for exploits and glitches for literal decades. Like I overheard people talking about Ocarina of Time as a broken game, which is ridiculous because the glitches in that game are pretty much never encountered in normal gameplay. Well, the really serious stuff, no, you're right, you'd never encounter that in normal play. But it is virtually impossible to play a casual playthrough of OOT without encountering several minor glitches. I'm thinking of stuff like "broken stick glitch," which is easy to activate accidentally when fighting certain enemies with Deku Sticks, crouch stabbing, which is as easy to activate as holding R (to shield) and pressing B (attack) while not z-targeting (because the devs simply forgot to assign damage values to that particular kind of sword swing), and seeing through walls occasionally. The casual player maybe will not realize broken stick is a glitch, nor will they even notice anything special is going on with crouch stabbing, but they're still glitches that happen a lot.
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I'm a purist, I consider ff6's magic evade bug to be a part of the quintessential experience because that's how the physical cart was printed. If you exploit it, whether knowingly or not, that's on you; but because it doesn't crash the game, it is neither a good nor a bad thing that it exists at all.
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I dread the day I hear We're Finally Landing in public and have to explain to people I know that a video game speedrunning record is about to be broken.
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jokes posted:FF6, especially, is a very solid game experience and I don't care how easy it is to absolutely destroy by speedrunners. There are a few bugs but I don't recall loving with any of them the first thousand times I played it, even the MDEF bug. I lost my save the first time I played it because I had the gall to use one of the character's special abilities.
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Random Stranger posted:I lost my save the first time I played it because I had the gall to use one of the character's special abilities. Never use Relm
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jokes posted:FF6, especially, is a very solid game experience and I don't care how easy it is to absolutely destroy by speedrunners. There are a few bugs but I don't recall loving with any of them the first thousand times I played it, even the MDEF bug. FF6 got so glitchy by the endgame that I literally couldn’t finish it. Might have had something to do with using one of those retranslation patches, but as I understand it that can just kind of happen anyway if you spend a little too much time grinding.
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99 Economizers and I have General Leo facing backwards in my party. gently caress. YES.
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Six is a hard game to finish because it's really bad, not because of the glitches and bugs
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Dewgy posted:FF6 got so glitchy by the endgame that I literally couldn’t finish it. Might have had something to do with using one of those retranslation patches, but as I understand it that can just kind of happen anyway if you spend a little too much time grinding. It's almost certainly an issue with the patch. Pretty much the only thing the base game specifically dislikes is if you use Relm to sketch Gau, spawning 256 Dirks, and an assortment of other items, in your inventory. Otherwise, it's a game that will generally keep on truckin no matter what you throw at it, including putting dummied-out guest members into your party, and spawning the airship next to yourself as soon as you reach the world map at the very beginning of the game with half the story flags set
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i watched the SummoningSalt on Ninja Gaiden because I like that game but the guy who has the record has run the game forty thousand times. That is some CIA psychological torture Guantanamo Bay type poo poo. I can't even imagine. I haven't even put 40 thousand miles on my truck that I bought 4 years ago.
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legendoftotalwar has 25000 hours on total war games. a 40-year office career from college to retirement is 80000 hours
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If you can speedrun a game in 2 minutes, 40,000 wins is about equal to two full playthroughs of Vikingssassin's Creed
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bob dobbs is dead posted:legendoftotalwar has 25000 hours on total war games. a 40-year office career from college to retirement is 80000 hours the ninja gaiden record is 11:35 so just going off that we're talking about 7722 hours. On only Ninja Gaiden on NES. No other game. At least there are like a dozen or so Total War games. edit: lol the guy Arcus who ran the game 40k times doesn't even have the record anymore.
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bob dobbs is dead posted:legendoftotalwar has 25000 hours on total war games. a 40-year office career from college to retirement is 80000 hours lmao if you think i'm putting as much effort into my generic office job as i do my games to follow up on last week I can confirm World of Warcraft (classic) is still fun and good and kinda relaxing and what i need from a videogame. At least I think thats why i woke up at 4am with a strange urge to run the Deadmines
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Been dwelling on Elden Ring more and I think a pithy way to put my disappointment into words is that I like Dark Souls and I like Elder Scrolls, but the combination is rubbish. I think the combat system in Skyrim suits the game that it is. Much like in an MMO, I don't really want a very skill/twitch-based combat system in my open world RPG. The open world nature ruins a skill-based system because you get all sorts of tools and power to break the combat, even accidentally. And having the combat be skill-based just means you're constantly on edge and fighting is a chore when you want to explore. At least when I ran into yet another Draugr I could just left click them to death and move on. But when I run into yet another stone imp fucker, I have to pay actual attention to the combat even though I'm well over giving a toss about those guys long before the game stops throwing them at me. And there's no proper towns to just relax in and make the game world feel alive. Elden Ring is just relentless. Combat combat combat combat. It's just too much and too one-note for the game it comes from. The Dark Souls formula of smaller levels is vastly superior. And repeating bosses in a skill-based combat game is stupid. Every repeated boss I enjoyed less overall when it was repeated. I don't mean the second time was less fun, I mean the second time added nothing and actively detracted from the first time. Like a terrible ending dragging down an entire show/game/whatever, the second boss reduced my opinion of the game overall. It obviously succeeded commercially but I personally think Elden Ring is a failure of design. Phigs fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Sep 21, 2022 |
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Elden Ring is diminished by being influenced too much by popular bad game franchise Elder Scrolls, it's true
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Elden Ring is the most overrated game since Breath of the Wild. A good game for sure but nowhere near an all-time great let alone the best in its own series. Assuming you look at ER as a Souls game.
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Phigs posted:Been dwelling on Elden Ring more and I think a pithy way to put my disappointment into words is that I like Dark Souls and I like Elder Scrolls, but the combination is rubbish. I think the combat system in Skyrim suits the game that it is. Much like in an MMO, I don't really want a very skill/twitch-based combat system in my open world RPG. The open world nature ruins a skill-based system because you get all sorts of tools and power to break the combat, even accidentally. And having the combat be skill-based just means you're constantly on edge and fighting is a chore when you want to explore. At least when I ran into yet another Draugr I could just left click them to death and move on. But when I run into yet another stone imp fucker, I have to pay actual attention to the combat even though I'm well over giving a toss about those guys long before the game stops throwing them at me. And there's no proper towns to just relax in and make the game world feel alive. Elden Ring is just relentless. Combat combat combat combat. It's just too much and too one-note for the game it comes from. The Dark Souls formula of smaller levels is vastly superior. Actually it owns, because all those things.
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