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tribbledirigible posted:Wing Commander: Prophecy had a couple of ships that kept inertia and those were my stand ins back in '98. Yeah, it really needs Starfury's that can flip around and shoot the fighter chasing them, then flip back around and keep going on their attack run.
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That's basically Elite: Dangerous with flight assist off.
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Sep 20, 2022 20:00
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TK-42-1 posted:That's basically Elite: Dangerous with flight assist off. Except that Elite: Dangerous is really boring
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Sep 20, 2022 20:08
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Iron Crowned posted:Except that Elite: Dangerous is really boring I like being a space trucker and delivering stuff to space stations. 
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Sep 20, 2022 20:20
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I like the show pretty a lot. If they get the reboot made, cool I guess. It’s probably better if they don’t, though. One of my favorite aspects of the show is their use of space newspapers. Then I think of what Star Trek: Discovery has done with the charming props and sets Star Trek had traditionally and how bad it’d be a with Babylon 5 reboot. Especially with a budget they’d get under the studio they’re under.
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Sep 20, 2022 20:25
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Babylon 5 is extremely dear to me and important. But i've been learning to just accept that if there is a reboot / more media for B5, then it doesn't really matter if it ends up bad. There is still the beloved original that will always exist. I don't always have to be an unhinged nerd.
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Sep 20, 2022 20:33
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I said come in! posted:Babylon 5 is extremely dear to me and important. But i've been learning to just accept that if there is a reboot / more media for B5, then it doesn't really matter if it ends up bad. There is still the beloved original that will always exist. I don't always have to be an unhinged nerd. This has been where I'm at - I don't see any real downside to letting JMS have another shot just to see what happens.
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Sep 20, 2022 20:38
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Yep. I wouldn't be happy about WB just deciding to resurrect some old IP they have and cash in, but the fact that it's JMS controlled and what he wants to do makes me much more confident it's worthwhile to make.
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Sep 20, 2022 20:40
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JMS doing this as a passion project could mean it's either awesome or terrible, and I'll take that gamble because it'll at least be interesting. But yeah if it were someone trying to find an IP they can pin a new streaming service on, I'd be much more skeptical.
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Sep 20, 2022 21:00
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The thing I mostly worry about is that JMS is old enough that him living long enough to do a five year series is really not a sure thing.
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Sep 20, 2022 21:30
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68 and with enough money to afford medical care isn't that old.
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Sep 20, 2022 21:33
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Grand Fromage posted:68 and with enough money to afford medical care isn't that old. At the rate life expectancy has been dropping, it will be in a few years.
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Sep 20, 2022 21:41
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CainFortea posted:At the rate life expectancy has been dropping, it will be in a few years. Life expectancy of America maybe. :P But we might all be dying along side JMS at the rate things are going.
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Sep 20, 2022 21:55
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As long as he hires someone else to write or at least heavily proofread the dialog I'm good.
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Sep 20, 2022 22:57
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DrBouvenstein posted:Maybe it was mentioned early on in the series, but why did Santiago ever pick Clark for his VP? I got the vibe that earth's government in general was overstepping itself and overestimating its place in the galaxy and just below the surface had an almost mirror universe federation feel. Like Clark is the biggest and most ambitious rear end in a top hat and will have people assassinated therefore the most factions liked him and so he became the most viable #2 person. I always took it that earth's most passionate people were already raring to go for a fascist dictator and that folks like Santiago were just more of a "deeply concerned" republican than Clark if had to put today's mindsets on them. I said come in! posted:Babylon 5 is extremely dear to me and important. But i've been learning to just accept that if there is a reboot / more media for B5, then it doesn't really matter if it ends up bad. There is still the beloved original that will always exist. I don't always have to be an unhinged nerd. Same, though in a way I do hope there's a reboot because it might get more people to watch the original for the first time. Plus if it sucks, I mean, it's not like Legend of the Rangers was particularly incredible. The original will always be fuckin amazing.
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Whoop. I’ve recently finished a rewatch and I hadn’t thought before about the pettiness of the ‘dedication’ at the end of the series. Hoping someone can stop JMS starting or ending the reboot with ‘I win again, haha’.
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Grand Fromage posted:68 and with enough money to afford medical care isn't that old. I have some bad news for you about Babylon 5's cast.
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Sep 21, 2022 01:15
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Neo Rasa posted:I have some bad news for you about Babylon 5's cast. That was part of the deal. There can be only one.
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Sep 21, 2022 01:23
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Babylon 5 is actually one of the few sci-fi shows from that era of television I'd want to see remade. It was ahead of its time in a lot of ways and chafed enough under the limitations of budget and technology that an update could be good under ideal conditions. Of course, ideal conditions are far from likely, but who knows? I think what I'd be most skeptical of is a new cast. Andreas Katsulas and Peter Jurasik, in particular, feel almost irreplaceable. Edit: been watching some clips out of nostalgia, and I love how Sheridan's perennial solution to difficult problems is nuclear explosions. Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Sep 21, 2022 |
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Sep 21, 2022 04:50
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Gotta say, it's not every day that I see 50 new posts here. (And I would be interested to see what JMS could do with a reboot.)
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Small White Dragon posted:Gotta say, it's not every day that I see 50 new posts here. I'm always worried when I see a lot of new posts in here  Thankfully, nobody died, and it was just an appeal by JMS to raise B5's social media profile. I really hope the reboot comes through.
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seaborgium posted:Yeah, it really needs Starfury's that can flip around and shoot the fighter chasing them, then flip back around and keep going on their attack run. Try Independence War if you want a ‘90s space sim with Newtonian physics. Your ship’s computer automatically compensates for slip (but not instantly) or you can hold a key and disable it if you want to do a 360 noscope.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Try Independence War if you want a ‘90s space sim with Newtonian physics. Your ship’s computer automatically compensates for slip (but not instantly) or you can hold a key and disable it if you want to do a 360 noscope. And you can see those Newtonian physics on display in the 14 minute movie intro to the game! https://youtu.be/ECfKL4oS-6w This poo poo was mindblowing when it came out in 1997. Now it comes across as slightly cheesy but still cool. Also the music reminds me of Babylon 5 a bit. theblackw0lf fucked around with this message at 10:14 on Sep 21, 2022 |
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There were a lot of starfighter games back in the 90s contemporary with B5, and I assume a good amount of them have systems that let you do that. These days the genre isn't doing too well, but there's still a few. I think House of the Dying Sun has physics like that. I do wonder whether fighters might end up less prominent if JMS had to do Babylon 5 again with less mandates forKeffer.
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SlothfulCobra posted:There were a lot of starfighter games back in the 90s contemporary with B5, and I assume a good amount of them have systems that let you do that. These days the genre isn't doing too well, but there's still a few. I think House of the Dying Sun has physics like that. They were prominent enough in S1 before Keffer ever appeared. I actually think Keffer was a good cover for one of JMS's mistakes that we've remarked upon from time to time - why are the command staff flying these missions? Heck, Garibaldi flies one or two and he wasn't even a pilot. Done over I think we'd still get a Keffer to use in those situations, but an integral part of the cast rather than a bolt-on.
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There was lots of Starfury action in s1 with no Keffer, so unlikely imo
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When I was a kid, "keff" was slang for a fart, so a "keffer" would be someone who farted a lot. That thought always popped back into my head every time I saw the season 2 opening credits.
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The fighters were always an integral part of the show since it distinguished the CG based B5 (which could have huge space battles) from the model based Trek shows (where they were much more rare).
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Jedit posted:They were prominent enough in S1 before Keffer ever appeared. I actually think Keffer was a good cover for one of JMS's mistakes that we've remarked upon from time to time - why are the command staff flying these missions? Heck, Garibaldi flies one or two and he wasn't even a pilot. Done over I think we'd still get a Keffer to use in those situations, but an integral part of the cast rather than a bolt-on. In West Wing a presidential candidate flew a fighter plane during campaign.
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MikusR posted:In West Wing a presidential candidate flew a fighter plane during campaign. On a combat mission?
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Jedit posted:On a combat mission? Heck no. He was a Marine reservist who flew F-18s, and he got photographed doing what reserve pilots do when they're not deployed.
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Zorak of Michigan posted:Heck no. He was a Marine reservist who flew F-18s, and he got photographed doing what reserve pilots do when they're not deployed. Exactly. Sinclair and Ivanova were out there patrolling for raiders, and we've frequently asked why the actual fighter pilots weren't doing it.
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I just took it as part of the setting that Babylon 5 was incredibly short-staffed.
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Jedit posted:Exactly. Sinclair and Ivanova were out there patrolling for raiders, and we've frequently asked why the actual fighter pilots weren't doing it. Sinclair was a Starfury pilot, and technically Earth wasn't at war with anyone. The CO getting in his flight qualification hours doing some random patrolling wouldn't be that crazy of a thing.
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JMS has said Earthforce people get flight pay if they do fighters, but that requires maintaining flight hours and if they stop going out, they lose the status and money. Thus.
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Grand Fromage posted:JMS has said Earthforce people get flight pay if they do fighters, but that requires maintaining flight hours and if they stop going out, they lose the status and money. Thus. To be honest I'm surprised at even this amount of lamp-shading. Like, you can just shrug and say, "Dramatic license." It was a somewhat-experimental 90s sci-fi show with fantasy elements and eternally shaky network support. If in that context command staff flying combat missions bothers you, I don't know what to say.
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In universe, we know how poorly Earthforce pays, how good of a pilot he was, and how far down the list of Earth’s preferred commanders Sinclair was. It does seem weird that the Minbari allowed him to put himself in danger like that, though.
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Tachyon: The Fringe had inertia based flying and was a tremendously fun space sim back in the day. Missions and interactions were different based on your wingman and best of all... Main character is voiced by Bruce Campbell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev1bfSd1qZw
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I always thought the voice actor for the protagonist in Descent 2 sounded like Bruce Boxleitner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT5U4LMiF7M It's not inertia-based but had 6 degrees of freedom, so there's that.
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