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DELETE CASCADE posted:normalize calling them crooters
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Sep 21, 2022 05:09
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Sep 21, 2022 05:23
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i would like people to give up on having cute little brain teaser interview questions that are like “what would u do if a giant orb appeared above New York City and you were tasked with analyzing it with all the earths resources at your disposal”
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Sep 21, 2022 07:02
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I've already analyzed the orb and it's either made of the flesh of every human on earth or all the ants on earth if sagebrush has finished his quest
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Sep 21, 2022 07:06
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those questions were finished a decade ago in the sfba, mostly, for deec companies. dunno where you're at
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Sep 21, 2022 07:13
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Achmed Jones posted:ellies_favorite_no.jpg miss her 
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Sep 21, 2022 07:57
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just gave my notice, boss is on holiday for a few days. really going to be putting the "home" into WFH
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Sep 21, 2022 10:12
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the whole american 0-2 weeks notice is wild to me. over here it’s _at least_ a month, but usually 2-3 months (unless you hosed up and they want to get rid of you, then it’s a 3 month garden leave).
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Sep 21, 2022 10:43
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Kernel Sanders posted:the whole american 0-2 weeks notice is wild to me. over here it’s _at least_ a month, but usually 2-3 months (unless you hosed up and they want to get rid of you, then it’s a 3 month garden leave). That's at-will employment for you. The 2 weeks notice is a courtesy so you don't leave on a bad note. If by "here" you mean Europe, then yeah it's because we have actual employment contracts.
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Sep 21, 2022 10:56
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Kernel Sanders posted:the whole american 0-2 weeks notice is wild to me. over here it’s _at least_ a month, but usually 2-3 months (unless you hosed up and they want to get rid of you, then it’s a 3 month garden leave). and on top of that most americans start their new jobs the day after their 0-2 weeks notice is expired with not even the tiniest gap because taking a bit of time to chillax is either financially ruinous (health insurance, living paycheck to paycheck) or just plain old unamerican and lazy
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Sep 21, 2022 11:01
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Kernel Sanders posted:the whole american 0-2 weeks notice is wild to me. over here it’s _at least_ a month, but usually 2-3 months (unless you hosed up and they want to get rid of you, then it’s a 3 month garden leave). I'm in Europe, negotiated notice down to 1 month then am taking another month of funemployment
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Sep 21, 2022 11:34
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Worth noting UK has at-will employment for the first 2 years of your contract, unless your contract stipulates otherwise (and it has to be very specific wording at that). But then I guess that's not really Europe these days.
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Sep 21, 2022 14:29
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My previous boss at my current job wanted me to start before New Year's and I was like "Is this a trick?" because that would have been only one week's notice at my previous job.
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Sep 21, 2022 15:25
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Private Speech posted:Worth noting UK has at-will employment for the first 2 years of your contract, unless your contract stipulates otherwise (and it has to be very specific wording at that). weirdly I found in France that your actual employment contract doesn't normally directly state the notice period, instead it refers to the relevant collective bargaining agreement. For developers that's from SYNTEC, and it's three months(!) by default. For some reason that I don't fully understand the rules for holidays (25 days + bank holidays + RTT + bonus ones from tenure) also come via that agreement, rather than directly from employment law.
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Sep 21, 2022 15:29
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CPColin posted:My previous boss at my current job wanted me to start before New Year's and I was like "Is this a trick?" because that would have been only one week's notice at my previous job. filling your position before year end was probably a goal that their performance review depended on
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Sep 21, 2022 15:35
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distortion park posted:weirdly I found in France that your actual employment contract doesn't normally directly state the notice period, instead it refers to the relevant collective bargaining agreement. same for Denmark. lots of places just say “refer to this part of employment law for this kind of employment”
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Sep 21, 2022 16:32
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distortion park posted:weirdly I found in France that your actual employment contract doesn't normally directly state the notice period, instead it refers to the relevant collective bargaining agreement. In the UK it's much more rare to have extra protections in the first two years, it basically has to be along the lines of "if this contract is terminated except through gross negligence by b or XYZ, a will compensate b with ZYX" which can then be enforced as a breach of contract. It's common only for like airplane pilots and such. But the standard disciplinary procedures clauses at al. don't have to be followed by the company at all in the first two years, you can be sacked on the spot for having a crooked smile or whatever until you hit that milestone. e: After that you IIRC get 2 weeks per year until 8 weeks total. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Sep 21, 2022 |
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Sep 21, 2022 16:33
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bob dobbs is dead posted:those questions were finished a decade ago in the sfba, mostly, for deec companies. dunno where you're at this person and the company are sfba lol, I am pnw however
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Sep 22, 2022 04:22
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its sufficient cause to just walk away. you got some more on deck right
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Sep 22, 2022 05:30
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buddy I wish, a year and some change ago it was easy to get the actual interview process going but this time around I’m lucky to hear anything at all
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Sep 22, 2022 05:55
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a cyberpunk goose posted:i would like people to give up on having cute little brain teaser interview questions that are like “what would u do if a giant orb appeared above New York City and you were tasked with analyzing it with all the earths resources at your disposal” if all of earths resources are now at my disposal, all hail the mothafuckin orb
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Sep 22, 2022 05:59
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post hole digger posted:if all of earths resources are now at my disposal, all hail the mothafuckin orb in all my time asking this question ur the first to get it right welcome aboard, friend of orb
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Sep 22, 2022 06:05
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a cyberpunk goose posted:i would like people to give up on having cute little brain teaser interview questions that are like “what would u do if a giant orb appeared above New York City and you were tasked with analyzing it with all the earths resources at your disposal” I would rather answer weird brain teasers with elusive evasive answers than reverse more strings.
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Sep 22, 2022 08:11
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distortion park posted:weirdly I found in France that your actual employment contract doesn't normally directly state the notice period, instead it refers to the relevant collective bargaining agreement. the reason to do it that way is at least clear: makes it a question of collective bargaining rather than national politics, which makes it much more possible to change. the law could state a minimum i guess, but in most places organized labor dislikes that encroachment on their turf.
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Sep 22, 2022 11:59
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If it's like the US where the minimum the law demands is pitifully insufficient on its own, then it anchors any discussion around that pitifully insufficient minimum instead of it naturally being anchored around how much the labour is worth while if the minimum the law demands actually is sufficient then you're interfering in the ability of unions to bargain away parts of that for bigger gains in areas that matter to them more
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Sep 22, 2022 12:08
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:the reason to do it that way is at least clear: makes it a question of collective bargaining rather than national politics, which makes it much more possible to change. i checked and the national law *also* states that you get 25 days holiday (normal type, you get a bunch of others too) (it says 30 but that includes saturday as a working day, it's actually 25). Since you can also have company wide collective bargining agreements and individual contracts the way they all interact could be complex - one source I found says that in general the one most favourable to the employee applies, so the national law and industry wide agreements set a sort of minimum, without capping additional benefits (there is some allowance for bargining down though - I believe I'm covered under one element of this, instead of the 35 hour working week applying, I have a slightly higher theoretical cap although it isn't tracked. Instead I automatically get additional days off called RTT, about 10 a year). distortion park fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Sep 22, 2022 |
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Sep 22, 2022 13:08
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a cyberpunk goose posted:i would like people to give up on having cute little brain teaser interview questions that are like “what would u do if a giant orb appeared above New York City and you were tasked with analyzing it with all the earths resources at your disposal” I got a “count the windows in a city” for an entry level position. Less stupid and Avengers. Focused on deciding what counted as a window. Got the job so w/e.
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distortion park posted:RTT, about 10 a year. i need to check my days totals, we get only 6 per year and i also do some on-call stuff occasionally i also got told by the hr that only reimburse public transport and rental bikes, and i know for a fact some paris companies give an allowance if you commute using a personal bike on the other hand we just decided not to self own ourselves thanks to several positive technical decisions, which is a good thing and makes me cautiously optimistic also, recently i notice how i have become a technical knowhow person in many different parts of our thing, which makes me thing that maybe what i am doing day to day is looking more and more like the indeed.com description of what is a staff engineer which means that i need to gently nudge nudge my superiors towards this realization and also the fact that i should get a cool raise e: of course i havent a clue whether there is a thing called staff engineer in computer touching
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4lokos basilisk posted:which means that i need to gently nudge nudge my superiors towards this realization and also the fact that i should get a cool raise two nudges max. personal experience.
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nudgenudgetilt posted:two nudges max. personal experience. did they take away your bonus or something?
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Jabor posted:did they take away your bonus or something?
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I'm gonna guess "put on PIP" myself probably my instinctive thoughts about management being jerks (even though my management is pretty great right now)
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so mad about it they made it their username
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Sep 23, 2022 11:38
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what do people expect to get back when they send a "omg ty so much for interviewing me i luv u" email after an interview? i never send them because i don't understand the point of them, but now i'm interviewing people and they're sending me these and i feel like i should reply to be polite but i don't know what they want from me. They don't ask me any questions or anything so i've got nothing to go on. i feel like i need a template just like i had for recruiters when i was jobhunting that is just like "here is a generic message so you know i am continuing to interact with you, i'll let you know if i need more from you but otherwise have a good time without me byee!!!"
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a big part of the interview process is sending out signals that you understand and can comply with all the unspoken rules of professional office behavior sending a thank-you note afterwards is one of those little things that you are supposed to do as part of an interview (just like arriving 10 minutes early, having printouts of your resume with you, dressing appropriately, not criticizing your previous employers, having some stories to tell about times you took the initiative to solve a problem or turned a personal weakness into a strength, demonstrating that you spent a few minutes reading the company's website and have some questions about their products, and so on) nobody actually believes that you were 'really excited to meet the team!' but sending an email to that effect once you get home from an interview shows that you are the sort of person who understands the expectations of corporate culture, and may increase you chance of converting that job interview into an offer
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alternately, you can be the type of person that has a meltdown about being asked to look over some company values before the interview which type of person you are is up to you! both are represented itt
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FMguru posted:a big part of the interview process is sending out signals that you understand and can comply with all the unspoken rules of professional office behavior but like, what do potential hires want back from this email? Can i just ignore it since they care just as little as I do?
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Corla Plankun posted:but like, what do potential hires want back from this email? Can i just ignore it since they care just as little as I do? yes, you can ignore it. you can also say "it was nice meeting you" or whatever if you want nobody is going to yell at you here - do what you want
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i usually dont send those little follow-up emails after being interviewed (i probably should) but when i do i dont expect to get anything back. its just a thank-you note for taking the time to invite me to your office to discuss a job opening. seems analogous to sending a thank-you note to someone who hosted a dinner party that you attended, or who gave you a birthday gift
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