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MonsterEnvy posted:My biggest issue with Season 2 is that Deathstroke was kind of wasted. He just gets stabbed at the start of the season 2 finale and that's the end of him. I thought it was a very lame Deathstroke. I mean I like the actor and I actually did in theory like seeing Jericho and Rose on the screen. But I just think its pretty poorly done and yeah, you take a pretty major DC villain and treat him pretty disposable. The big melodramatic death at the end of the season doesn't even have anything to do with him, its just a random action. Which I think is what put me off the show now. Its just bad writing. Its really just a bad show. Even by pulpy CW super hero melodrama standards.
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Codependent Poster posted:Sam and Bucky don't like Walker because they both feel he doesn't deserve the shield or understand what it means to be Captain America. They're only right by coincidence. By all accounts he was the perfect person to be Captain America. They didn't dislike him because they could smell an evil man, they disliked him because of their own conflicted feelings about following in Steve's legacy. I haven't finished the show, so if it goes into his backstory and it turns out that oh he did all kinds of bad poo poo beforehand because he's bad, fine. But James and Sam didn't know that. And from what I've seen, there's no reason to believe that it was inevitable he would snap.
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Sep 21, 2022 15:30
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Sam was a moron for giving up the shield in the first place like an rear end in a top hat, but I'd probably be a dick to whoever the govt decided to replace my best friend with too
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site posted:Sam was a moron for giving up the shield in the first place like an rear end in a top hat, but I'd probably be a dick to whoever the govt decided to replace my best friend with too Sam and John were kinda of in the same position. Steve giving Sam the shield was a very clear passing of the torch, but Sam didn't feel like he was up to it. If Sam had decided from the get go that he had to be the new Captain America without that time to really think on his doubts, to bond with Bucky, and to decide what being Captain American meant to him specifically, he could've ended up loving up terribly too.
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yeah but he could've just not given up the shield while he was figuring his poo poo out. like what the gently caress did he think was gonna happen, they were just gonna hold on to it specifically for him until he decided to come around, if he ever did at all?
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I mean he thought they’d put it in a museum like they did because Captain America was Steve Rogers not a mantle passed down. He was wrong. And arguably naive. Bucky basically feels that way. But the whole show is basically these characters in conflict over what that shield means and working through poo poo. And for Sam it’s pretty clearly established as the show goes on that his concern was much what HIM having the shield would mean to others.
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Sep 21, 2022 17:20
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Sam and Bucky probably could've stood to be less condescending towards Walker, a guy they've never met and knew nothing about...but on the other hand, if hurt feelings are all it takes to make Walker bad at his job, then he probably shouldn't have had the job in the first place. Like, never mind that he's taking on the role of Captain America; even "regular" law enforcement positions are designed to be stressful by nature. What's Walker gonna do when people other than Sam and Bucky call him some names? If he can't leave his insecurities at the door, then every little thing that goes wrong on the job is liable to set him off. Which...y'know, literally ends up happening. He's the equivalent of a cop that ends up gunning down some kid someday and blames everyone else about it but himself. And I say all that despite having a lot of sympathy for Walker as he was depicted on the show, as someone who was set up to fail from the outset by shortsighted bureaucrats, and then left in the lurch by those same people when he ends up being a liability for them. He's every veteran soldier that the military industrial complex propped up for their purposes and sent off to fight their wars, but that they'll wash their hands of the minute he stops being useful, when he actually needs their help.
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Sep 21, 2022 17:38
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Walker's talk with Lemar that preceded his taking of the serum is really the crux of his whole character. He's a guy that's been heralded as a hero but feels he's a fraud because of a combination of survivor's guilt and shame for whatever he did that he was being rewarded for. He's trying to overcompensate to make up for failings he thinks are his own. In reality it's the system that hosed him over twice now at this point (once by putting him in the position that lead him here and a second by placing this heavy legacy on someone clearly not fit for it) and even a third time by the end of the series.
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He didn’t pass because he didn’t want to be Cap. He knew if he took the shield half the country would start making black Captain America effigies to burn on crosses.
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Soonmot posted:probably the only show I watched the title sequence for everytime 
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finished it and overall easy easy recommend for peacemaker. there is some extremely good television on right now but very easily my favourite superhero product of this year i think, and likewise if you haven't bothered with The Suicide Squad on the fairly solid basis of what it was like before the The you're fuckin up and you should watch it first. both of them are closer to james gunn things than other stuff. here's a question that has i guess some pretty major spoilers is peacemaker implied to be gay or probably bisexual, or at least to have slept with a man previously i suppose? his father constantly calls him a f** or similar but i thought that was just him being a nazi piece of poo poo, but when he was calling out his sins he says "I knew when you listened to that devil music. I knew when you shaved your body like a woman. I knew when you slept with the whores of polluted blood! and men!" with a real emphasis on that last word. like the other stuff is him being flippant or culture warry but he puts real hatred on men. it makes me wonder.
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I've always wondered what the conversation Sam had with some government stooge that led to the handing over ceremony. Like did he say it was for a museum? Did they tell him "we will definitely not immediately give this to some guy?" That ceremony seemed awfully official and planned, I can't imagine Sam didn't have any questions and was just handing the thing in like an overdue library book.
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CoolCab posted:finished it and overall easy easy recommend for peacemaker. there is some extremely good television on right now but very easily my favourite superhero product of this year i think, and likewise if you haven't bothered with The Suicide Squad on the fairly solid basis of what it was like before the The you're fuckin up and you should watch it first. both of them are closer to james gunn things than other stuff. yeah he's bi
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STAC Goat posted:I thought it was a very lame Deathstroke. I mean I like the actor and I actually did in theory like seeing Jericho and Rose on the screen. But I just think its pretty poorly done and yeah, you take a pretty major DC villain and treat him pretty disposable. The big melodramatic death at the end of the season doesn't even have anything to do with him, its just a random action. Which I think is what put me off the show now. Its just bad writing. Titans is better than the worst seasons of Arrow but worse than the best.
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Gripweed posted:They're only right by coincidence. By all accounts he was the perfect person to be Captain America Yes, the perfect person to be Captain America by the estimation of the US government, who wanted to originally give the super soldier serum to Flash Thompson classic instead of skinny Steve Rogers
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OnimaruXLR posted:Yes, the perfect person to be Captain America by the estimation of the US government, who wanted to originally give the super soldier serum to Flash Thompson classic instead of skinny Steve Rogers Yea, Erskine chose Steve because he was pure of heart, thought nothing of giving of himself and also hated bullies. All that made Steve the best candidate because Erskine already knew it was the persons mind not body that was most important decision in who to use it on, anyone can be made super strong, fast and tough, but only the right person could use it as intended.
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Yep. It’s like the literal text of First Avenger. Walker is the guy Tommy Lee Jones wants to give the serum to. And it goes exactly as you could reasonably expect it to go when you give a guy like that that kind of power and sense of importance.
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CoolCab posted:finished it and overall easy easy recommend for peacemaker. there is some extremely good television on right now but very easily my favourite superhero product of this year i think, and likewise if you haven't bothered with The Suicide Squad on the fairly solid basis of what it was like before the The you're fuckin up and you should watch it first. both of them are closer to james gunn things than other stuff. Regarding FatWS, Sam and Bucky should have done more therapy together.
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The part where James does a front wheelie and drives straight into a concrete divider so he is propelled off the bike and into a bad guy is pretty good.
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I guess I finished The Falcon And The Winter Soldier? I was not expecting it to be only 6 episodes. It was alright. It was fun, James and Sam were great, there was some good action, Baron Zemo strayed pretty close to the line of obnoxious for that character type but never went all the way across, and the CGI wasn't bad. I think the reason I was surprised when it ended, aside from 6 episodes being short for a streaming series, is that there's not really much to it by itself. Wandavision was it's own thing, it had it's own story to tell, even if there was a good deal of setting stuff up for future content. But TFATWS is mostly setting stuff up for future content. Like, get Bucky normal, make the Falcon Captain America, introduce USAgent and pump up Zemo, make Carter evil, and introduce a really terrible character that's played by Julia Louis-Drefus in the hopes that viewers won't notice how lovely all of her dialogue is. All stuff that is presumably important setup for future Marvel content. The actual story of the show is almost vestigial.
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FatWS was supposed to be the first show, covid just shuffled stuff around, so it's not too surprising that it would up being a little weak
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The other thing I will say about Walker is that it's easy for us, the audience, to see that he was going to be a bad choice for Captain America. But that's because we're omniscient gods with perfect understanding of story beats and narrative tropes looking down upon these hapless worms wriggling in the proverbial sand. They don't have the info that we have, they're not privy to the metatextual bird's-eye-view perspective of the story and events of multiple movies and comics and so forth that we have. It's not as if the government was going to go, "Hey let's look for the weakest guy we can find to be our superhero poster child." And if they did, who knows what kind of weirdo incel shut-in Twitch streamer they would've found? TFATWS has a buncha issues (I will rag on their depiction of Karli 5ever), but one of the things I appreciate about it is how it sets up the Russo-esque slow-boil tragedy that we can see coming, but that the characters in-story have no easy way to prevent, no easy solutions to stumble upon.
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Opopanax posted:FatWS was supposed to be the first show, covid just shuffled stuff around, so it's not too surprising that it would up being a little weak Assuming the reports are true, FatWS had a major storyline about a global pandemic ripping through the migrant/refugee communities and killing them - Better explaining why the Flag Smashers existed. And then a global pandemic started ripping through communities and killing people and a bunch of editing and re-shooting needed to be done. Which, like Daredevil (the Affleck movie) and the Director's Cut - when you cut out half the story context you end up with a less than stellar product.
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I like what they're doing with Titania in She-Hulk, feels very modern and Jameela Jamil is playing her to the hilt.
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Sorta hoping we never see the super suit. Just get a joke in the finale episode where she opens the customary big overdesigned case and looks in it, then just closes it and says like "I know you were all super excited because we always save the suit for the last episode, like these shows are really just origin stories for our costumes, but I'm not feeling it. Maybe if they let me in a movie!"
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Nice, I thought it was only 6 episodes that’s a nice surprise. Also sure looks like I was right about Leader showing up, Intelligencia being run out of a mad science lab certainly gives it credence. I wonder if Jen is going to be in New World Order, would make a lot of sense. I’m also hoping Blonsky is working with him and that’s not the last we’ve seen of him
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She-Hulk I haven't seen it yet but I KNOW there are people out there acting like Mr Immortal was always their favorite character and now he's ruined. I will revel in that bullshit when I see it. I absolutely loved the incel forum idea. The writers were able to perfecly predict how dorks on the internet would react to the show and I am digging it. More rage bait for those twerps. Disregarding that I have already loved the character for a long time, this show is exceeing my expectations. Its as perfect as it can be.
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Joe Fisto posted:
I believe you but it is funny you say that right after saying people all of a sudden claim a character as their long-time favourite.
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Lobok posted:I believe you but it is funny you say that right after saying people all of a sudden claim a character as their long-time favourite. Very true. I have a 10 year old she hulk tattoo if any fools want to check my street cred. Word to your mom.
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I don't care about Mr. Immortal beyond that he just put a foot in the door for the GLA which means Doreen is one step closer.
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They cast someone as Squirrel Girl, she was gonna be on a Champions or New Warriors show that didn't get picked up and is currently voicing her on a pod cast based around Doreen Green hosting a radio call-in advice show at her college after being publicly outed as Squirrel Girl
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Skwirl posted:They cast someone as Squirrel Girl, she was gonna be on a Champions or New Warriors show that didn't get picked up and is currently voicing her on a pod cast based around Doreen Green hosting a radio call-in advice show at her college after being publicly outed as Squirrel Girl Milana Vayntrub most known for her AT&T commercials. She seems like she would’ve been a good SG.
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Joe Fisto posted:She-Hulk I can't wait for Daredevil to meet Jen for dinner or something and say something like "I hope you weren't waiting for me. I'm not such a big deal."
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Joe Fisto posted:Milana Vayntrub most known for her AT&T commercials. She seems like she would’ve been a good SG. She's very good in the podcast
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Im also surprised that I don’t see more discourse about the casting of Patti Harrison, ya know, for reasons
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Joe Fisto posted:Milana Vayntrub most known for her AT&T commercials. She seems like she would’ve been a good SG. Don't say would. She can still be Squirrel Girl! Come on coward Feige.
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Joe Fisto posted:Im also surprised that I don’t see more discourse about the casting of Patti Harrison, ya know, for reasons I don’t think most people realize she’s trans.
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Barb from Stranger Things tried to parlay her fleeting internet fame into a campaign to be cast as Squirrel Girl, and while it didn’t work, it speaks volumes about how cool she must be that she chose to spend her 15 minutes of notoriety into such a mission.
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