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LostCosmonaut posted:https://twitter.com/c_e_powell/status/1572012767787495424?s=46&t=VoiokzqyKaIjyeyGhTsj7Q https://twitter.com/c_e_powell/status/1572014290055606272?s=46&t=C7N4e3yTk-je3-s866s1LA Is probably a more accurate path. Remember the radar image represents the storm’s current position. AF303’s last pass approached from the SE at about 9000ft so you can try and guess what it’s have been like. So it was maybe 40-45knots at flight level? Also planes have weather radars so they can fly through simple rain bands and avoid areas of convection.
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LostCosmonaut posted:https://twitter.com/c_e_powell/status/1572012767787495424?s=46&t=VoiokzqyKaIjyeyGhTsj7Q Meanwhile, seemingly anything with AA painted on the tail goes seventy nm around a three mile wide cell of moderate rain like they’re the only airplane in the loving sky.
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70 nanometers doesn't seem like a severe or even measurable divert
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shame on an IGA posted:70 nanometers doesn't seem like a severe or even measurable divert You are in the aircraft thread. It's nautical miles
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shame on an IGA posted:70 nanometers doesn't seem like a severe or even measurable divert We can directly measure the rate at which the moon is receding from the earth solely because of its actions on our tides. You think 70nm for something that's within a dozen miles of the surface is beyond us?
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Just watched a C172 land on 1R at IAD at 2pm. I'll bet that was fun to slot in for all parties involved.
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I wonder if someone recorded the conversation with tower because I bet there were some amusing notifications to other planes in the pattern. made me look this video up again, still great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKvWn317tpU "You want to do this at O'Hare???"
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Just watched a C172 land on 1R at IAD at 2pm. I'll bet that was fun to slot in for all parties involved. I'm guessing it's probably not too bad since there are three runways to choose from if 1R is active, and assuming the C172 was flying IFR.
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Does IAD get busy? The dozen or so times I've flown there the place was dead as hell. Also if you want to do a touch and go at ORD just show up at 2am, place is dead as gently caress
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I'm still doing my PPL but I hated the day I was flying on a holiday. The pattern was so packed that I had abort one landing on final because the other guy took their sweet rear end time to vacate, plus a big parachutist C208 cut me off on final. Everywhere you looked middle aged men in cessnas dodging one another, and keeping the frequency occupied.
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Arson Daily posted:Does IAD get busy? The dozen or so times I've flown there the place was dead as hell. Also if you want to do a touch and go at ORD just show up at 2am, place is dead as gently caress Noon-5pm can be busy because that's generally when the widebodies come in, but outside those times, IAD is one of the world's biggest regional airports, taking in a shitload of A319s-321s, 737s, Embraers, and CRJs. I'd argue in terms of "busy-ness," National (no one around here ever calls it Reagan or DCA) handles more passenger traffic in terms of actual takeoffs and landings each day. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Sep 20, 2022 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Noon-5pm can be busy because that's generally when the widebodies come in, but outside those times, IAD is one of the world's biggest regional airports, taking in a shitload of A319s-321s, 737s, Embraers, and CRJs. I'd argue in terms of "busy-ness," National (no one around here ever calls it Reagan or DCA) handles more passenger traffic in terms of actual takeoffs and landings each day. Yup, it's true despite the widebody international lift out of IAD. Data as of June: https://www.mwaa.com/sites/mwaa.com/files/2022-08/6-22%20ATS%20%288.5.22%29.pdf
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Arson Daily posted:Does IAD get busy? The dozen or so times I've flown there the place was dead as hell. Also if you want to do a touch and go at ORD just show up at 2am, place is dead as gently caress Airport traffic is often in bursts so if you often fly in at a certain time then it can always look that way.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Noon-5pm can be busy because that's generally when the widebodies come in, but outside those times, IAD is one of the world's biggest regional airports, taking in a shitload of A319s-321s, 737s, Embraers, and CRJs. I'd argue in terms of "busy-ness," National (no one around here ever calls it Reagan or DCA) handles more passenger traffic in terms of actual takeoffs and landings each day. I've lived in fairfax county for 22 years and I've always called it reagan and so does everyone I know
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Mortabis posted:I've lived in fairfax county for 22 years and I've always called it reagan and so does everyone I know In a 2015 poll most people in the DC area called it "National", though at that time they also noted that there was a strong correlation between voting preferences and how respondents referred to the airport.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet, but there was a crash and fatality at the Reno Air Races yesterday. I was there, and it was interesting (in a very hosed up way) to see how fast the announcers switched gears when the crash happened. Even before the wreckage stopped moving, they'd immediately kicked the color guy off the mic, and started on their "bad thing happened, keep everyone calm" checklist, which had them calmly encouraging people to go do things outside the stands, which conveniently put many of the spectators somewhere it would be a lot easier to get them out of the airport if that needed to happen. It was probably a good thing the crash happened where it did, since much of the crowd was watching the airplanes closer to the grandstands, so I think a lot of people didn't see the actual impact, and only saw the resulting fireball.
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Seems kind of bad that simply flying the course at high speed puts you in a sustained high g maneuver if I understand what that guy is saying. Air racing just seems unnecessarily unsafe to me.
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Cojawfee posted:Seems kind of bad that simply flying the course at high speed puts you in a sustained high g maneuver wait until you find out about auto racing
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DCA - lived in maryland for 30 years never once called or heard it called anything but “Reagan.”
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Sagebrush posted:wait until you find out about auto racing One thing I learned by googling about G-LOC today is that G forces 90 degrees to the axis of your spine aren't nearly as dangerous when it comes to G-LOC since they don't drain blood out of your brain. Apparently there have been experiments with prone and reclined piloting positions to enable high-G maneuvers in airplanes
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Sagebrush posted:wait until you find out about auto racing Autoracing is lateral Gs which are far easier to tolerate.
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Cojawfee posted:Seems kind of bad that simply flying the course at high speed puts you in a sustained high g maneuver if I understand what that guy is saying. Air racing just seems unnecessarily unsafe to me. The G-loading on the course is within what a trained person can withstand without a G-suit (the jet class usually hits 3-5 G's), but if this ends up being a G-LOC accident, I'd expect that G-suits become mandatory if the jet class races in 2023. When the jet class first began, the airplanes had ejection seats, but the FAA banned them over concerns about where the empty airplane could end up, and discussion had been ongoing about allowing them again prior to this year. Air racing is risky, but Reno is actually incredibly proactive about mitigating those risks as much as possible, and for an event that has airplanes doing what's been called "hostile formation flying" 50' off the ground at anywhere from 200-500mph, their safety record is actually pretty good. azflyboy fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Sep 21, 2022 |
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Youtube decided to recommend this to me. Not sure I'm gonna watch it myself, but if anybody does please trip report. Jerry posted a video about declaring an emergency for left engine out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Sc7zMojz4
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Cojawfee posted:Seems kind of bad that simply flying the course at high speed puts you in a sustained high g maneuver if I understand what that guy is saying. Air racing just seems unnecessarily unsafe to me. From what blancolirio showed, he was too far to the inside, made a quick correction outwards, and then had to pull more g's to compensate. Apparently the correct thing to do would be to eat the penalty and take the L, but I'm no air racer.
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Xakura posted:From what blancolirio showed, he was too far to the inside, made a quick correction outwards, and then had to pull more g's to compensate. Apparently the correct thing to do would be to eat the penalty and take the L, but I'm no air racer. At that point, he had two safer options. He could have kept his line and taken the pylon cut, or if he thought the situation wasn't salvageable, he could have pulled up off the course, which is SOP if there's any kind of problem with the aircraft or a safety concern. During the race on Saturday, Hogue had taken first by 2/1000 of a second, so the gold jets are an extremely competitive class, which may help explain the mindset leading into the crash.
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Infinotize posted:DCA - lived in maryland for 30 years never once called or heard it called anything but “Reagan.” You will never, not ever, hear a controller issue a clearance to Reagan national or any variation thereof. It’s National Airport till the heat death of the universe.
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MrYenko posted:You will never, not ever, hear a controller issue a clearance to Reagan national or any variation thereof. It’s National Airport till the heat death of the universe. I wonder why. 
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MrYenko posted:It’s National Airport till the heat death of the universe. Which is currently scheduled for 2034.  Anyway, no matter what you call it, it is great because of the River Visual approach for RWY 19. Accept no substitutes.
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Beef Of Ages posted:Accept no substitutes. Because you don’t want to test the NASAMS.
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hobbesmaster posted:Because you don’t want to test the NASAMS. Exactly. Think of the paperwork.
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MrYenko posted:You will never, not ever, hear a controller issue a clearance to Reagan national or any variation thereof. It’s National Airport till the heat death of the universe. Won't hear me refer to it as anything but National, either.
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azflyboy posted:The G-loading on the course is within what a trained person can withstand without a G-suit (the jet class usually hits 3-5 G's), but if this ends up being a G-LOC accident, I'd expect that G-suits become mandatory if the jet class races in 2023. A g-suit only gains you about 1G and still requires anti-G straining techniques, but really, if these guys aren't already stopping during greyout/tunnel vision and pull out then, then no G-suit will help. They'll just push harder.
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If the pilots can't be trusted to not G-LOC themselves, then it sounds like the only option is a G-meter on board and disqualification for going over the limit. Would create another skill differentiator, who can fly closest to the limit and in optimal path.
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hobbesmaster posted:Because you don’t want to test the NASAMS. Speaking of, an F-15 escorted a Cessna 172 away from NYC, where the president was giving a speech this morning. Cessna busted the presidential TFR.
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mlmp08 posted:Speaking of, an F-15 escorted a Cessna 172 away from NYC, where the president was giving a speech this morning. Cessna busted the presidential TFR. Was this around 6PM or so because I'm about 20 miles south of lower Manhattan, heard some unfamiliar jet noises, and looked up to see what looked like a F-15 flying approximately Northwards. Looking at a map, it looks like anything flying from McGuire to NYC would have to overfly my area.
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Edward IV posted:Was this around 6PM or so because I'm about 20 miles south of lower Manhattan, heard some unfamiliar jet noises, and looked up to see what looked like a F-15 flying approximately Northwards. Looking at a map, it looks like anything flying from McGuire to NYC would have to overfly my area. About 11:40 eastern, but CAP was likely up throughout visit.
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mlmp08 posted:About 11:40 eastern, but CAP was likely up throughout visit. If a plane (or two) is tasked with an intercept do they need to sortie more planes to handle the original tasking?
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mlmp08 posted:Speaking of, an F-15 escorted a Cessna 172 away from NYC, where the president was giving a speech this morning. Cessna busted the presidential TFR. How does that work? Is the 172's top speed even above the F-15's stall speed?
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Pinky Artichoke posted:How does that work? Is the 172's top speed even above the F-15's stall speed? I'm guessing you would fly circuits around the 172.
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Pinky Artichoke posted:How does that work? Is the 172's top speed even above the F-15's stall speed? https://youtu.be/jc8tu0ZPfEA
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