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No Wave posted:I admit I still don't get why moira is so despised. "Bright minds have always been persecuted." Countblanc posted:My friend who played the beta with me and prefers high execution fast characters in basically every game specifically disliked her and Winston for being so effective against the type of character he likes for relatively less effort. One of the big reasons why I like playing Moira.
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Ignis posted:Preview of the patch notes for launch I was afraid they'd get rid of the support passive healing. That made Lucio even more fun than usual.
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Sep 21, 2022 21:47
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When I think of Moria hate I think of someone hurling person sized orbs through choke points, that ignore player models and auto target anything near by. Just low skill spam? I never actually play Moria, or think about or complain about her, but that's just my recollection of the common complaint.
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Sep 21, 2022 21:48
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my secret vice is to play Deathmatch with Winston to get half the lobby mad and switch to Reaper to counter.
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No Wave posted:I admit I still don't get why moira is so despised. I think it's mainly people don't like when people neglect healing duties and play her like a DPS by throwing mainly damage orbs, and almost exclusively front-lining/flanking rather than spending more time behind the tanks (or now tank). She has huge potential for healing output but some people don't play her to take advantage of that. It's kinda like bad reddit Lucios, except Lucio is cool so he gets a pass while Moira is a dork (but really, the team isn't generally relying on Lucio to be the primary healer like it is with Moira) . At lower levels I think she gets some DPS to rage since she's auto aim and can be hard to hit for deeps that aren't solid aimers, though this is probably more of a deathmatch thing.
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Both Winston and Moira are slow killers, that give you time to realize you're dying and there's nothing you can do about it. That makes people mad.
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Sep 21, 2022 21:56
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I wonder if the 30% ult carry over on hero switch will make it to mystery heroes? It’s the only mode I would even really think about playing any more.
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Sep 21, 2022 22:08
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No Wave posted:I admit I still don't get why moira is so despised. To phrase it as a classic SA custom title template: MORIA CURES WEEBS
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Sep 21, 2022 22:17
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Hypnolobster posted:I was afraid they'd get rid of the support passive healing. That made Lucio even more fun than usual. its a cool passive. somehow tanks have the only uncool passive now. it's good, but it isn't cool.
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Sep 21, 2022 23:23
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here's my idea for the new tank passive - embiggen: you get all the current stuff but also every time you get a kill your model size increases by 1% for the rest of the game
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Sep 21, 2022 23:23
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Countblanc posted:here's my idea for the new tank passive - embiggen: you get all the current stuff but also every time you get a kill your model size increases by 1% for the rest of the game I would be stoked if they made my favourite workshop mode into a tank passive
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I think there are 2 cohorts in this game. ~50% want to play a 3d, first person, team ability game. You can try to do the gun aiming thing if you want to, but you will be a bit handicapped for it. A lot of these people like playing support and tank. ~50% want to be an FPS god character in a game where they are well supported and have a tank to engage for them. In this game they get direct sight lines to the helpless enemy supports so they can make hero plays and all of their supporting cast can cheer them on. When a support starts winning duels in a way that doesn't involve headshots, "the game is broken." Lets say the top cohort is split roughly evenly between roles, the second cohort is the one ruining the DPS queue. Why not play valorant? Because it's it's a better ego stroke to be a ninja sniper in a world of mercies. headcase fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Sep 22, 2022 |
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Sep 22, 2022 00:52
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thats a weirdly aggressive way to word that
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headcase posted:I think there are 2 cohorts in this game.
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No Wave posted:50% sounds like a lot of players! Why did they have to reboot the game again? I guess it is a calculated risk to try to retain the other 50%
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headcase posted:I think there are 2 cohorts in this game. this is a masterpiece post
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Countblanc posted:thats a weirdly aggressive way to word that I guess it's because there is en equally derisive tone behind 'It's a FPS, let people play the DPS role." I don't think the game will have the same appeal to the people saying that if it really were like valorant. Because that's not what they want. They want 3-4 people on the team to play some other way so they can have fun in a primary role. If everyone just had an assault rifle, it would lose it's charm. headcase fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Sep 22, 2022 |
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Sep 22, 2022 01:18
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Wheeee posted:this is a masterpiece post I posted it for you.
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headcase posted:I think there are 2 cohorts in this game. What do the other 3% want?
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Sep 22, 2022 01:21
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rule 34
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You know they say all men are created equal, but you look at me and you look at tank/support mains and you can see that statement is NOT TRUE! See, normally if you go one-on-one with another dps you got a 50/50 chance of winning. But I'm a genetic freak, and I'm not normal! So you got a 25% at best at beating me! And then you add a mercy pocket to the mix? Your chances of winning drastically go down. See, the six-way at hanamura, you got a 33 1/3 chance of winning. But I? I got a 66 2/3 chance of winning, cuz the sombra one trick KNOOOWS she can't beat me, and she's not even gonna try. So, other dps you take your 33 1/3 chance minus my 25% chance (if we was to go one on one) and you got an 8 1/3 chance of winning the duel. But then you take my 75% chance of winnin' (if we was to go one on one), and then add 66 2/3...percent, I got a 141 2/3 chance of winning! The numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you!
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headcase posted:I guess it's because there is en equally derisive tone behind 'It's a FPS, let people play the DPS role." I don't think the game will have the same appeal to the people saying that if it really were like valorant. Because that's not what they want. They want 3-4 people on the team to play some other way so they can have fun in a primary role. If everyone just had an assault rifle, it would lose it's charm. If you’re actually serious this is some child brain thinking. Like the thought processes you’re displaying here are some genuinely low functioning intellect fumbling without an intrinsic theory of mind poo poo. I don’t mean the tone, we’re all being Overwatch players here, I mean the way you appear to think, it’s either a great bit or just sad.
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headcase posted:I think there are 2 cohorts in this game. This is completely ignoring ing the 50% of players who gave up on Blizzard ever managing to balance a team shooter and have all their hopes riding on PvE not being a complete tire fire! AND the 69% who only follow the game for dead-eyed SFM porn! Apologize this instant, jerk. 
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Wheeee posted:If you’re actually serious this is some child brain thinking. I guess it would be easier to hide my child brain if i just attacked people outright. The question is: What makes overwatch different? What makes people want to queue for 20 minutes to play widow in this particular game while complaining the whole time? Why not play open queue? Why not play a game where everyone is hitscan? headcase fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Sep 22, 2022 |
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Sep 22, 2022 02:35
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I think the main flaw in your math is assuming half the player base actually want to play tank/support rather than being incentivised to do it by role queue. Me? I always liked those roles and ttypically play them in open queue without bothering to pick dps but im far from half the playerbase. I agree with your point that those people might be better off playing another game but sunk cost fallacy is a hell of a thing
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Jezza of OZPOS posted:I think the main flaw in your math is assuming half the player base actually want to play tank/support rather than being incentivised to do it by role queue. Me? I always liked those roles and ttypically play them in open queue without bothering to pick dps but im far from half the playerbase. I agree with your point that those people might be better off playing another game but sunk cost fallacy is a hell of a thing I think there are a lot of people that want to play a less FPS focused team game. Some of those players want to play damage characters like junk and sym, and maybe others want to play hitscan type characters but don't mind their lot in life that non-aiming abilities and shields are part of the game.
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Yeah i do think the broad range of dps characters is a huge strength of overwatch and the main issue people have with the game is the perceived lack of impact some tanks and supports have. Not to say those roles actually lack impact but the feedback the game gives you is a lot less obvious and viscerally satisfying than it is for dps. Imo role queue was the ideal solution to a lot of problems the game had and if i wasnt deeply cynical about the future of ow2 because of the whole f2p aspect of it i'd be excited for it because 1-3-2 seems like a vast improvement
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headcase posted:I think there are 2 cohorts in this game. we can just close the thread, the ultimate OW post has been made
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Herstory Begins Now posted:we can just close the thread, the ultimate OW post has been made I think it accurately sums up every problem and grievance with overwatch in the past 8 years.
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the idea that people might like a game for a different reason than me..... those WORMS
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headcase posted:I think it accurately sums up every problem and grievance with overwatch in the past 8 years. It does, but not in the way you think it does.
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Wheeee posted:It does, but not in the way you think it does. Let's see: Half the population wants one game, half the population wants a different game. Every compromise that blizzard has made hosed something up for half the population. What am i missing?
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blizzard actually needs to tell one half to go pound sand and at least make a game that is consistently for one set of people since pleasing everyone is categorically not an option and efforts to do so just keep undermining the game itself and actually make the divide worse also they're hosed for queue times as long as there are like 9 different modes that you can queue into without even getting into custom games or private matches
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Just keep adding the DPS slots until queue times are balanced. Just Nerf damage at the same time so that focus fire doesn't instantly delete everything. Bring 2-4-2.
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Just play mystery heroes, it's that simple.
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More like 2-12-2.
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teagone posted:Just play mystery heroes, it's that simple. this but put a hard cap on torbs because trying to mh into three torbs isn't wacky fun it's just boring
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:this but put a hard cap on torbs because trying to mh into three torbs isn't wacky fun it's just boring 
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:this but put a hard cap on torbs because trying to mh into three torbs isn't wacky fun it's just boring Part of what makes MH gratifying is being able to break silly comps like that and then calling out the other team for not being able to win with 3 torbs.
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