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Was the death sentence more of a “hey look what we could be doing” thing?
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He has to die, but only for two years
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Sep 22, 2022 20:31
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look, if we don't get around to killing you within two years you can just hang out here forever.
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Sep 23, 2022 00:06
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Getting a time limit on life is awful. I'd prefer the Soviet style not knowing poo poo about what's happening until they drag you to a basement and put one in your skull to that
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Sep 23, 2022 00:16
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Gaius Marius posted:Getting a time limit on life is awful. I'd prefer the Soviet style not knowing poo poo about what's happening until they drag you to a basement and put one in your skull to that I personally prefer when cultures abolish the death penalty in acknowledgement of how faulty human judgement is as well as the capability for abuse that it presents to corrupt figures of authority. But this is the China thread.
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Sep 23, 2022 00:58
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no no using capital punishment for corruption is great and very effective. Thats why the ccp has a very low level of corruption! unlike AMERICA!!!
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Sep 23, 2022 01:17
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Gaius Marius posted:Getting a time limit on life is awful. I'd prefer the Soviet style not knowing poo poo about what's happening until they drag you to a basement and put one in your skull to that That's actually modern Japanese style, although I think it's a noose.
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Sep 23, 2022 01:29
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Gaius Marius posted:Getting a time limit on life is awful. I'd prefer the Soviet style not knowing poo poo about what's happening until they drag you to a basement and put one in your skull to that Either I’m reading this sentencing incorrectly or they’re putting him on a suspended death sentence for 2 years (so if he fucks up at any point in the next two years they immediately carry out the sentence) and then if he makes it past the 2 year mark he just gets to die in prison.
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Sep 23, 2022 04:22
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Preechr posted:Either I’m reading this sentencing incorrectly or they’re putting him on a suspended death sentence for 2 years (so if he fucks up at any point in the next two years they immediately carry out the sentence) and then if he makes it past the 2 year mark he just gets to die in prison. Death (soon-to-be) Recorded
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Sep 23, 2022 04:32
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Ups_rail posted:no no using capital punishment for corruption is great and very effective. Thats why the ccp has a very low level of corruption! unlike AMERICA!!! Not too long ago I was working with a Nigerian guy and the conversation got to corruption, where he complained about massive levels of corruption in Nigeria. He then followed up with "That's why I like China. In China they execute the corrupt so there's no corruption. And in Japan the corrupt commit suicide!" I laughed myself silly, not gonna lie.
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Sep 23, 2022 06:14
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But can you imagine the recidivism if China had those swanky Norwegian-style jails? Three meals, own room with window and maybe TV, play phone all day, walk the yard, gamble for fun with buddies, omg.
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Sep 23, 2022 06:19
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PITY BONER posted:But can you imagine the recidivism if China had those swanky Norwegian-style jails? Three meals, own room with window and maybe TV, play phone all day, walk the yard, gamble for fun with buddies, omg. While I was detained in SZ, there was an Aghani who was very clear that he wanted to remain incarcerated rather than exit. Similarly in Taiwan, there were more than a few pensioners whose families had arranged for them to be detained. 3 meals & access to healthcare was simply better inside than out.
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I wonder about those guys now who got the "prison for life you're lucky we didn't execute you" sentence. Not that I feel any sympathy for them, but I just wonder what doing life in a Chinese prison as a previously powerful, rich guy is like. They don't execute or imprison the small scale local corruption though, at least what I've seen. Where my inlaws live, just the outskirts of Kaifeng and rural, all old people and farmers mostly. It's mostly a nowhere place but they got their own local party government like everywhere just for the village. And they put up the profiles for the officials outside the party building and all that. Half of them, same family name, same family. And everyone tells me at least that's just what they do and it's bullshit, no one really wanted them in they're just there to collect a paycheck and have the incredibly small power of running a tiny village in Henan but, what are you gonna do? Then there's one guy there who's a party official, he's getting the Chinese equivalent of disability. He's not disabled in any way, if it's an invisible disability then he's doing a drat good job of not letting it affect his day to day because he's in no way unable to do stuff. He's just collecting that paycheck though. Everyone thinks he's a dick so maybe that's his disability. They mostly use their position to bully people out of property. But they (pretty recently, last few years) changed the rules to only party members can vote them in and almost no ones a party member there so not much anyone can do. I know they'll say such and such a massive percent of party members are actually rural farmers but I guess no one told farmers in Henan about that, it's relatively not cheap to be in the party. One guy almost got in trouble a few years back when Beijing sent someone to audit them. It turned into this giant drama with him checking himself into the hospital for some vague "breakdown" when they arrived. Not sure if anything more ever came of that.
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something something coup?
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Just dumb rumors. I wouldn't give it a moment's attention.
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Grand Fromage posted:Just dumb rumors. I wouldn't give it a moment's attention. Yeah it’s from Nepal Connections….and no one else. That said Xi getting couped would be a nice start to the weekend. lol
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https://twitter.com/davidlarter/status/1573418206609698816?s=46&t=KXP8ndWdICj7epnVM3A4ww I agree it would be the most hilarious Friday dump in history, but also wishful thinking. Also the flights are normal and only remotely visual evidence is from…Jennifer Zheng and umm yeah no. Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Sep 23, 2022 |
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Marshal Prolapse posted:https://twitter.com/davidlarter/status/1573418206609698816?s=46&t=KXP8ndWdICj7epnVM3A4ww quote:A shackled Hillary Clinton was removed from a fortified holding cell in south Florida and flown directly to Guantanamo Bay aboard a Marine CH-53 Sea Stallion helicopter, Real Raw News can now report.
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Sep 24, 2022 06:35
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lmao
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Die in Guitmo Killary and Biden's Son!
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Sep 24, 2022 06:57
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Hearing reports that Xi Jinping had information that will lead to the arrest of Hilary Clinton
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Sep 25, 2022 00:12
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I can Xi clearly now, Jinping is gone.
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Sep 25, 2022 00:22
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Pretty much.
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PRC Seth Abramson / Louise Mensch would be hilarious for all the reasons the genuine articles weren't.
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Sep 25, 2022 01:42
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Mozi posted:I can Xi clearly now, Jinping is gone.
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Sep 25, 2022 02:56
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tankie twitter fuckin weird https://twitter.com/hum_dunkin/status/1573795923024543747?s=46&t=6eHmzbS74yhGVo61i3Cvng
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Tankies are just palette swapped Trump supporters. Real 'big strong daddy please hurt my enemies' energy. Same as the Christian Right and the Taliban.
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Mozi posted:I can Xi clearly now, Jinping is gone.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Tankies are just palette swapped Trump supporters. Real 'big strong daddy please hurt my enemies' energy. ideological dogma does a number on folks
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Mozi posted:I can Xi clearly now, Jinping is gone.
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Mozi posted:I can Xi clearly now, Jinping is gone. Might not beat the current thread title, but is sure giving a drat good try.
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I doubt it. It's just hearsay on Twitter. No real proof.
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Sep 25, 2022 04:27
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yeah should wait until it's actually true 
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Mr. Fix It posted:tankie twitter fuckin weird 
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PITY BONER posted:But do u know that tankies do not believe in colonialism? thx, gonna inflict this upon a robert evans
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do tankies even understand what colonialism was? and the us role in dismantling it?
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Ups_rail posted:do tankies even understand what colonialism was? and the us role in dismantling it? First question? Only when the west does it. Second? Ehhh I kind of dispute the premise
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Ups_rail posted:do tankies even understand what colonialism was? and the us role in dismantling it? I mean you say that yet Puerto Rico is taxed without representation so perhaps not the best example. They just wanted to do colonialism, but softer, and did plenty of nasty stuff too, [This in no way justifies tankie positions]
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thetoughestbean posted:First question? Only when the west does it. Second? Ehhh I kind of dispute the premise I refering more to the economic side of things where the colonly exists to provide raw materials and market access to the mother unit. So you had the English trading with English colonies, french trading with french, dutch with dutch etc. The economic structures was for the most part self contained, after all if you often go to war with your neighbor reliable trade is not really on the table. You also had these countries raiding each others shipping aka piracy. After WWII the US used its navy to secure shipping globally for everybody, this allows bigger slower but cheaper shipping and everyone doesnt need to field a navy to protect their shipping. former colonies could specialize their economy and participate in the new global economy. Thats what I was referring to now if you wanna throw CIA fuckery, economic manipulation etc under "colonialism" eh
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Ups_rail posted:I refering more to the economic side of things where the colonly exists to provide raw materials and market access to the mother unit. So you had the English trading with English colonies, french trading with french, dutch with dutch etc. The economic structures was for the most part self contained, after all if you often go to war with your neighbor reliable trade is not really on the table. Lol I was in the middle of writing up a post about how if you mean by “US dominance creating a fundamental paradigm shift that disincentivized actual military control of colonies” I could maybe sort of see it. Even then that raises the idea of global hegemony having some upsides, which tankies would absolutely agree with* *so long as it’s “their” side in control of the hegemon
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