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Failed Imagineer posted:The GOP doesn't give a poo poo about that lol jarlywarly posted:The GOP isn't going down any roads, they are driving in random directions full speed over wild landscapes in a raised truck rolling coal on the justice system. If they decide this doesn't apply to Trump it sure will if someone they don't like ever does a similar thing. Pretty much this. It's just guns, bibles and USA USA USA chants all the way down in between counting money made off the backs of wage earners while using talk radio and poo poo like that to convince 80% of their audience that this actually a good thing that will benefit them. Countdown now to how the special master is a loser, a huge disappointment and voted for a democrat once 25 years ago.
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AvesPKS posted:The executive branch (although not necessarily the congressional) is treating the deletion of Jan. 6 USSS texts as if it happened because people did not understand policies and the law, and did not understand their responsibilities as records custodians. I don't know how they're actually treating it, but yeah it's either a huuuuuge gap in procedure and training, or a coverup. I'm leaning toward the latter because "don't delete records from the biggest event in our* lifetimes" seems like a pretty obvious thing to ensure. *I mean USSS here mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Sep 23, 2022 |
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BiggerBoat posted:Countdown now to how the special master is a loser, a huge disappointment and voted for a democrat once 25 years ago. Also to the inevitable chud death threats that will be sent to him
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mobby_6kl posted:I don't know how they're actually treating it, but yeah it's either a huuuuuge gap in procedure and training, or a coverup. I'm leaning toward the latter because "don't delete records from the biggest even in our lifetimes" seems like a pretty obvious thing to ensure. The biggest event in our lifetimes so far
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'Election denier playbook': Trump supporters seeking state office raise fears of 2nd insurrection https://news.yahoo.com/election-denier-playbook-trump-supporters-seeking-state-office-raise-fears-of-2nd-insurrection-181705184.html quote:Supporters of former President Donald Trump seeking to control elections across the country have raised the specter of a second insurrection, akin to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, and fears that they will help try to rig the election results for Trump if he seeks the presidency again. Huh. I can't imagine for the life of me how the current SCOTUS would come down on this and surely Thomas would have the decency to recuse himself, right?
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poo poo or get off the pot https://mobile.twitter.com/CREWcrew/status/1573046628377919490 LFMAO https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1573116315304329216 Charlz Guybon fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Sep 23, 2022 |
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Charlz Guybon posted:poo poo or get off the pot If it turns out that Cannon knew that Trump was trying to delay and instead brought the SM in to corner him, while also eliminating his ability to delay by bringing it up to SCOTUS, I will eat my hat. I hope Trump's lawyers got paid in advance.
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J.A.B.C. posted:If it turns out that Cannon knew that Trump was trying to delay and instead brought the SM in to corner him, while also eliminating his ability to delay by bringing it up to SCOTUS, I will eat my hat. I mean, obviously it's incompetence on her part. He literally paid 3.89 million dollars on lawyers last month, most of it due to a 3 million dollar retainer that a supposedly good lawyer demanded.
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J.A.B.C. posted:If it turns out that Cannon knew that Trump was trying to delay and instead brought the SM in to corner him, while also eliminating his ability to delay by bringing it up to SCOTUS, I will eat my hat. She’s just incompetent as well as partisan. Some reasonable people have tried to characterize her as just inexperienced and in over her head leading her down a path of bad choices. I don’t think that’s all of it, she’s willfully rejecting advice from the foremost experts in these areas to make her rulings.
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Something tells me this guy won't see a penny of his final invoice from Donald "I will never pay" Trump. Just going out on a limb here.
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nine-gear crow posted:Something tells me this guy won't see a penny of his final invoice from Donald "I will never pay" Trump. Just going out on a limb here. Would it be contempt of court for Trump to not pay, or even to argue the bill? The SM is authorized by the court to bring in help as needed, and the court has ordered Trump to pay for said help.
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nine-gear crow posted:Something tells me this guy won't see a penny of his final invoice from Donald "I will never pay" Trump. Just going out on a limb here. He just paid nearly 4 million on legal bills in the last month.
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Levitate posted:what's the next tactic other than trying to get the supreme court to take it up He's not above summoning an armed violent mob.
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:I have doubts that a proper SM can judge anything "not claimed". Perhaps there are some obvious cases, but given the workload here there's very little point in them reading every line of a document if the plaintiff claims no right to it. The fireworks would be if they gently caress around with that stuff, which would be a pretty giant signal that they aren't serious. That's where I think things would go very poorly for both Trump and his lawyers. It kind of seems like busy work, so that's where I'm curious about how common it is for a special master to request litigants to do it with documents that aren't even being contested.
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Ok but unless the financial penalty actually hurts them this is meaningless.
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Could you please, please link an actual loving article and not a tweet reaction. Here are two articles covering this. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-will-have-to-pay-for-special-masters-assistant-2022-9 https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/22/special-master-trump-mar-a-lago-magistrate-00058437 The order is sketchy because a) the judge being requested at least helped draft it and b) they're known for taking some at least controversial positions on privacy issues. Angry_Ed posted:Ok but unless the financial penalty actually hurts them this is meaningless. Could you please, please read the loving article. It's $120k (which is likely a significant amount for Veritas), Project Veritas is at least proposing to appeal, and there are several parallel cases against the group which will potentially be aided by this finding. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Sep 23, 2022 |
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Discendo Vox posted:Could you please, please read the loving article. It's $120k (which is likely a significant amount for Veritas), Project Veritas is at least proposing to appeal, and there are several parallel cases against the group which will potentially be aided by this finding.
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Automata 10 Pack posted:They’re raised 6.6 million over eight years and have paid $150k in fines before. I think they’re built to withstand this, and if not there’s certainly some cretin glad to throw money at them. Repeatedly insisting that nothing matters while not citing facts (or not backing up your claims) doesn't do anything to contribute to the discussion.
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AvesPKS posted:The executive branch (although not necessarily the congressional) is treating the deletion of Jan. 6 USSS texts as if it happened because people did not understand policies and the law, and did not understand their responsibilities as records custodians. At the level of individual Secret Service agents, it's extremely plausible that the texts were simply accidentally lost. At the organizational level, a highly competent administrator would have realized the risk of data being lost and sought to come up with policies and procedures to minimize that risk. A mediocre administrator, more focused on on-the-ground protection work to the exclusion of routine IT procedures and legal compliance requirements, might very well fail to recognize the risk.
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Discendo Vox posted:Could you please, please link an actual loving article and not a tweet reaction. I don’t see how this is ‘sketchy’. If I were requesting a colleague be added to a team I was managing I would give them a chance to review and edit or provide changes to the request. I also don’t see a FISA court judge who has voiced privacy concerns as a bad thing at all. Also, DoJ can object to his appointment if they want (they won’t). The classified documents are out of play and this is just separating legit protected docs from government owned documents or ‘private property’, whatever that means in this case since they were seized legally. This isn’t a process that DoJ gets no say in, they can and will object to any determination they don’t agree with and none of this is really the subject of the criminal statutes listed in the warrant. On the contrary I see Dearie adding an experienced pro who is steeped in the need for government secrets as an unobjectionably good thing. That he’s also proposing to use EDNY staff who are all professionals used to the rigors of legally consequential work as a good thing. The clown show alternative would be so much worse, some 3rd rate conservative know nothings like cyber ninjas screwing everything up so horribly it can’t be recovered. Murgos fucked around with this message at 12:32 on Sep 23, 2022 |
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Plus the judge already holds a TS clearance from being a FISA judge so it'll help things move faster since they won't need background checks.
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Discendo Vox posted:Repeatedly insisting that nothing matters while not citing facts (or not backing up your claims) doesn't do anything to contribute to the discussion.  ” attitude is how we ended up in hellworld 2016-current.(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Automata 10 Pack posted:I literally stated specific facts you can check on Wikipedia, and this “sit back and watch the republicans gently caress up and lose I did not, nor has anyone else to my knowledge, made the claim you are assigning to “we” as an “attitude”. It reads a lot like objecting to having any kind of discussion that even might entail positive outcomes. “We” are also not supposed to have track down the uncited sources for your claim, which appears to be an incompletely cited sentence in the opening paragraph of a Wikipedia article- which you also misinterpreted. Project veritas is in multiple court cases, and their most recent 990s, available from the IRS to 2019, show an expense pattern in which the group burns through 75-80% of income each year. It’s a low-level individual-based operation and this relatively vulnerable to legal pressure.
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V-Men posted:Plus the judge already holds a TS clearance from being a FISA judge so it'll help things move faster since they won't need background checks. Not really how it works with SAR/SCI. Each silo determines who can and can not have access and can have non-standard requirements that need to be vetted individually. TS just gets you past the first hurdle of being eligible to be considered. That said I don't think the judges will be required to review any of those documents with classification markings. The ODNI will perform their review and some senior member of government will provide an affidavit that "We certify that we have performed a classification review as set forth in this standard and following this procedure and that this document contains information critical to the national security on penalty of perjury" for each and every one of those documents and that will be sufficient for the SM and any sane judge. For Trump to refute it he will need to cite specific evidence for each document that he wants to challenge that calls into question the honesty of the governments sworn statement. "I swear on penalty of perjury that I mentally thought that document was unclassified and so the governments review was incomplete and invalid" which he will never, ever do. And would be irrelevant because the classification status is just an organizational tool, the important part of all this, and more importantly the part codified in law (and recognized by the appellate court in their ruling), is that the contents of the document could cause great harm to the security of the united states. And no matter what mental gymnastics trump does that fact will not change and is not dependent on red block letters on a piece of paper.
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White House switchboard called a Capitol rioter on January 6 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/denver...inkId=182781555 Hadn't heard this before. I can't think of a reason this could happen without knowing who was going to be there that day.
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AhhYes posted:White House switchboard called a Capitol rioter on January 6 Jesus Christ, haven't these jokers heard of burner cellphones?
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Cimber posted:Jesus Christ, haven't these jokers heard of burner cellphones? They thought they were gonna win
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AhhYes posted:White House switchboard called a Capitol rioter on January 6 We'll probably hear about this at the next J6 hearing on Wednesday
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:We'll probably hear about this at the next J6 hearing on Wednesday Assuming that the release of this info was planned, the J6 media game has been spot on. Who gets people to watch congressional hearings in July, but millions of people did. Thats amazing.
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AhhYes posted:White House switchboard called a Capitol rioter on January 6 Is this during the period of missing call logs?
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Cimber posted:Jesus Christ, haven't these jokers heard of burner cellphones? Burners are for criminals, duh.
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During Donnie's 1st month, to stop leaks / spying from OBUMMER, his WH staff bought not a burner/2nd phones to use. They're real phone was put in shoeboxes wrapped in foil. warning if youre ignorant about the details of the next guy DONT look it up. Also the Druggar son thought just downloading a linux iso and tor browser covered his tracks. these people arent good at info sec, then again the system is poo poo at getting them compared to non regressives so lol.
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AhhYes posted:White House switchboard called a Capitol rioter on January 6 So if Riggleman knows about one end of that call....which end was it?
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mdemone posted:So if Riggleman knows about one end of that call....which end was it? Here it is: quote:"I only know one end of that call," Riggleman said. "I don't know the White House end, which I believe is more important. But the thing is the American people need to know that there are link connections that need to be explored more." Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Sep 24, 2022 |
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Dr. Faustus posted:He says in the quotation it wasn't the WH side. Nothing more specific. Ooooo
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Yeah this feels rather coordinated. Why this guy and why now right before the hearing? I’m with the ‘drum up interest’ faction. ‘The call was coming from inside the (White) House’ is classic plot even the dumbest most tuned out non-voter knows and it’s a great teaser.
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